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If you start to eat coconut's oil you will get your cholesterol to 300 quite

fast !! We have to be serious !!

 

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Coconut Oil: the Fountain of Youth.. and the world is flat !!

 

First :

Coconut oil is a highly processed oil solid at room temperature with a whopping

92 % saturated fat. ( 14 % for olive oi

 

Second : Coconut had a very low smoking point (350F / 177C) turning this oil

into a toxic product loaded with trans-fat due to its major oxidation.

Trans-fatty acids increased from 0.1% at baseline to 14.5% after sauteing and

shallow frying and 15.8–16.8% after deep frying.

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Cancer : it was found that diets containing 3% sunflowerseed oil

(polyunsaturated fat) and 17% beef tallow or coconut oil (saturated fats)

enhance tumorigenesis as much as a diet containing 20% sunflowerseed .

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Heart disease : Study showed saturated fat in coconut oil impaired

anti-inflammatory ability of HDL cholesterol. Researchers from the Heart

Research Institute in Australia studied the body response from eating meals

containing good fats versus bad fats. Participants were fed with meals prepared

with either coconut oil (high in “bad†saturated fats) or safflower oil

(high in “good†polyunsaturated fats). After only 3 hours, researchers found

the participants fed with the coconut meal high in saturated fat had a

significantly reduced blood flow due to arteries’ reduced ability to expand.

After 6 hours, researchers found that the good high-density lipoprotein (HDL)

cholesterol’s anti-inflammatory properties had decreased after the saturated

coconut meal, but improved after the polyunsaturated safflower meal. The results

of this study were published in the Journal of the American College of

Cardiology in August 2006.

 

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What could we expect from a product with 92, 5 saturated fat ?/! Are we nuts ?

 

you can’t even put it on your skin : it gives skin cancer but it could be good

for your hair ! Thats all folks ! To see the effect of heat on fats and the rate

of oxidation see :

http://jmbblog.com/2009/02/15/the-cholesterl-myth-and-heart-disease/

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As Dr. dean Ornish and Dr Esselstyne noted with a cholesterole below 150 you are

bullet proof against heart attack !!

 

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“Present nutritional guidelines of government and national health

organizations do not provide a maximal opportunity either to arrest or to

prevent coronary heart disease.â€

 

“The optimal diet consists of grains, legumes, vegetables, and fruit, with

less than 10%-15% of its calories coming from fat.â€

 

First National Conference on the Elimination and Prevention of Coronary Artery

Disease recommendations: Esselstyn CB Jr. Foreword: Changing the treatment

paradigm for coronary artery disease. Am J Card 1998;82(10B):2T-4T

 

A comparison of average Cholesterol level: China versus the US:

 

Average in the US 215 mg/dL

Average in China 127 mg/dL

 

During a three year observation in the southwestern Chinese province of Sichuan

and Guizhou.

There was NOT a single person who died of CHD before the age of sixty four.

 

See the China Study :

 

http://www.jmbblog.com/nutrition-and-cancer-the-china-study/

 

Guys I have one room left for an health and meditation retreat in our home in

Key West !!

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> First :

> Coconut oil is a highly processed oil solid at room temperature

> with a whopping 92 % saturated fat. ( 14 % for olive oi

 

Correction: *some* coconut oil is highly processed. Virgin coconut oil is not.

 

> Second : Coconut had a very low smoking point (350F / 177C)

 

That's the smoking point of unrefined coconut oil. Refined coconut oil has a

smoking point of 450.

 

> Cancer : it was found that diets containing 3% sunflowerseed oil

> (polyunsaturated fat) and 17% beef tallow or coconut oil (saturated

> fats) enhance tumorigenesis as much as a diet containing 20%

> sunflowerseed .

 

Modern diets contain far more polyunsaturated fat than 100 years ago, when rates

of heart disease and cancer were much lower. Polyunsaturated fats are *far* more

prone to peroxidation than saturated fats. Polyunsaturated fats put huge

oxidative, free radical stress on the physiology.

 

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>

> Heart disease : Study showed saturated fat in coconut oil impaired

> anti-inflammatory ability of HDL cholesterol. Researchers from the

> Heart Research Institute in Australia studied the body response

> from eating meals containing good fats versus bad fats.

> Participants were fed with meals prepared with either coconut oil

> (high in “bad†saturated fats) or safflower oil (high in

> “good†polyunsaturated fats). After only 3 hours, researchers

> found the participants fed with the coconut meal high in saturated

> fat had a significantly reduced blood flow due to arteries’

> reduced ability to expand. After 6 hours, researchers found that

> the good high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol’s

> anti-inflammatory properties had decreased after the saturated

> coconut meal, but improved after the polyunsaturated safflower

> meal. The results of this study were published in the Journal of

> the American College of Cardiology in August 2006.

 

Dr. Michael Eades completely debunks that ridiculous study here:

 

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/lipid-hypothesis/saturated-fat-study-sucks/

 

> See the China Study :

 

The China Study is another exercise in junk science propaganda.

 

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/China-Study.html

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> Second : Coconut had a very low smoking point (350F / 177C) turning

> this oil into a toxic product loaded with trans-fat due to its major

> oxidation. Trans-fatty acids increased from 0.1% at baseline to 14.5%

> after sauteing and shallow frying and 15.8†" 16.8% after deep frying.

 

Where are you getting your information? Because, considering that coconut oil is

92% saturated and trans fats are only poly- or mono- unsaturated, it seems

unlikely that heated coconut oil will become laden with trans fat. In the

process of partial hydrogenation, it is the interaction of the fat with the

catalyst that changes cis fat into trans fat; to the best of my knowledge,

simply heating an unsaturated oil does not produce trans fats. Also, trans fat

refers to the layout of the chains of carbon atoms across the double bond and

has nothing to do with oxidation.

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Coconut oil lowers HDL?  Not true at all.

We ingest coconut oil every single day and we have very nice HDL readings.  We

also take Omega 3.  If vco deters HDL, how come ours are more than adequate? 

That study must have been flawed.

 

Melly

 

 

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Your Omega 3 intake is beneficial to your health

 

Fish oil inhibits development of atherosclerosis in rhesus monkeys

 

The results indicate that fish oil- containing diets reduce serum cholesterol

levels and inhibit atherosclerosis even in the face of lowered HDL cholesterol

levels when compared to a pure coconut oil/cholesterol diet in rhesus monkeys.

Therefore, fish-oil diets exert effective protective control of progression of

atherosclerosis during severe atherogenic stimuli.

 

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Coconut oil raise your cholesterol and triglycerides and that's normal:

 

Résumé / Abstract

The effects on serum lipids of diets prepared with palm olein, corn oil, and

coconut oil supplying ∼ 75% of the fat calories were compared in three matched

groups of healthy volunteers (61 males, 22 females, aged 20−34 y). Group I

received a coconut-palm-coconut dietary sequence; group II,

coconut-corn-coconut; and group III, coconut oil during all three 5-wk dietary

periods. Compared with entry-level values, coconut oil raised the serum total

cholesterol concentration > 10% in all these groups. Subsequent feeding of palm

olein or corn oil significantly reduced the total cholesterol (−19%, −36%),

the LDL cholesterol (−20%, −42%) and the HDL cholesterol (−20%, −26%)

concentrations, respectively.

 

Nonhypercholesterolemic effects of a palm-oil diet in Malaysian volunteers

 

T KW NG, K Hassan, JB Lim, MS Lye, R Ishak - The American journal of clinical

nutrition, 1991

 

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What about the carcinogenics by-product of cooked coconuts oil ?

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What about the carcinogenics by-product of cooked coconuts oil ?

 

 

Virgin Coconut Oil is extremely healthy and there are no carcinogenics unless

its processed with chemicals. Coconut Oil is antibacterial and helps with

Cholesterol. Tropical Traditions has Gold Label Coconut Oil and Coconut Cream

that is incredible.....I have had patients with skin lesions use the coconut oil

on their skin to clear rashes.

 

Natural Health and wellness Center

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Virgin Coconut oil with no chemicals added will not be carcinogenic.  In fact,

there are anecdotes it has healed a stage IV breast cancer victim together with

vegetable/fruit diets also incorporating coconut products.

 

Melly 

 

 

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