About statins and heart disease

[Guest guest]

Hi Lanis228,

 

Those statins will kill you before they help you.  Did you know that the normal

number of Cholestrol used to be as high as 300, about 20 years ago?  Then they

brought it down to 250, then 200 because the drug companies want you to buy

their drugs and they are having the medical board lower the numbers.

 

Our brains are made of 70% cholestrol so we need cholestrol in our diet and in

our bodies.  It protects our organs and our brains.   Eggs are one of the

healthiest foods you can eat and you should be eating 2-3 every other day.  

And Coconut is one of the best oils you can consume along with Extra Virgin

Olive Oil (to make sure it's the real olive oil and not soy bean oil enhanced

with olive flavor or aroma, you put it in the refrigerator for a few hours and

it should be milky and cloudy.  If it's fake, it'll be clear and see through. 

There are more olive oil sold in the world than is made, it's cost effective to

buy soy bean oil and sell it as olive oil.)  If you don't know the dangers of

soy, here are two weblinks.

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html

http://www.totalityofbeing.com/FramelessPages/Articles/SoyPoison.htm

 

http://www.organicfacts.net/organic-oils/organic-coconut-oil/health-benefits-of-\

coconut-oil.html

By the way, the cereal industry is the one who came out and said that eggs were

high in cholestrol 20 years ago.  Yes it is high in cholestrol, the good

kind.  It's amazing what marketing can do to our society. 

 

I have learned so much from Dr. Wong's website and his podcasts.  He talks

about the increased incidents of Alzheimer's disease when our country went on

this low cholestrol kick back in the 70-80s.  And the increase in ADD and

ADHD.  He said that Alzheimer's disease was so rare 30 years ago, that doctors

were told that they would probably never treat an Alzheimer's patient in their

practice.  That's not the case now, is it?  We are not feeding our bodies the

healthy fats that it needs and because of it, we are suffering. 

 

Here is his weblink.  Down load the podcasts and listen to them.  I guarantee

you will be enlightened.  http://www.drwongradio.com/

 

Click on PodCasts and look for the below titles, download and listen to them. 

You will be fascinated.   He will talk about several topics in a podcasts so

enjoy all that he has to say. 

 

 

November 1 , 2008 (MP3: 13.8 MB: 30.00 minutes).

1) Bashing Boy-Men Yet Again!

2) High Blood Pressure Results

3) Stress & Sleep Supplements

 

1) Belly Fat, Estrogen & Alzheimers 2) Spring Cleaning your Insides: April 8,

2008 (MP3: 13.8 MB: 30:13 minutes)

 

Brain Function: August 27, 2007 (MP3: 13.8 MB: 30:04 minutes)

 

 

Also, here is another website for Weston A. Price Organization.  You want to

know about health and nutrition, here it is.

 

http://www.westonaprice.org/splash_2.htm

 

Good luck and let me know if you have any more questions.

 

Alana

 

 

 

 

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lanis228 <lanis228

 

Friday, April 3, 2009 12:52:38 PM

<< >> Re: About statins and heart disease

 

 

I see that I had better supplement with Coq10 & get off the statins. Thank you

so much. Fantastic info.

 

Alternative- Medicine- Forum@ s.com, shaman urban

<shaman_urban@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> Statins what you should know :

>

> First, that they work about 30% less in real life than what was found in

trials. Statins do not meet expectations for lowering low-density lipoprotein

cholesterol levels when used in clinical practice.

> Department of Preventive Cardiology, The Cleveland Clinic Foundation,

Cleveland, Ohio

>

>

> One of the side effects of statin could be myositis, a chronic or persistent

muscle inflammation (including your heart, of course). Statin and statin-fibrate

use was significantly associated with increased myositis risk in a managed care

population.

>

> What they should have told you:

>

> “In a direct comparison between diet with cholesterol lowering food versus

statin, it was found that the results in lowering bad cholesterol was similar in

the diet group and in the statin group and this after only four weeks, the Food

rich in plant sterols used in this study were 1.0 g/1000 kcal, soy-protein foods

(including soy milks and soy burgers, 21.4 g/1000 kcal, almonds 14 g/1000 kcal,

and viscous fibers from oats, barley, psyllium, and the vegetables okra and

eggplant.â€

>

> Direct comparison of a dietary portfolio of cholesterol- lowering foods with a

statin in hypercholesterolemi c participants. Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor

Modification Center, St Michael’s Hospital, Toronto, Canada.

>

>

> Statins do not provide benefit for people with diabetes either. (1) (2) (3)For

comparison, an observational study reported that if 250 sedentary diabetic

patients were to become physically active, four times as many lives will be

saved. (4)

> (1) Sever PS, op. cit.. (2)12 Shepherd J, op.cit.

> (3)The ALLHAT Officerrs and Coordinators for the ALLHAT Collaborative Research

Group. Major

> Outcomes in Moderately Hypercholesterolemi c, Hypertensive Patients Randomized

to Pravastatin vs UsualCare

> .Journal of the American Medical Association. 2002;288:2998- 3007.

> (4) Gregg EW, Gerzoff RB, Caspersen CJ, et al. Relationship of Walking to

Mortality Among US Adults

> with Diabetes. Archives of Internal Medicine. 2003;163:1440- 1447.

>

>

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>

> Statins & Nerve Damage

>

> Statins can create a peripheral nerve disorder with the following symptoms:

>

> Numbness

> Pain

> Burning or tingling

> Muscle weakness

> Sensitivity to touch

> Statin induced neuropathy: myth or reality? Formaglio M, Vial C.

> Service ENMG et Pathologies Neuromusculaires, Hôpital Neurologique

>

> “It is thought that as many as 25% of statin users who exercise, may

experience muscle fatigue, weakness, aches, and cramping due to statin.â€

> Statin-induced apoptosis and skeletal myopathy. Am J Physiol Cell Physiol.

2006 Dec;291(6):C1208- 12. Epub 2006 Aug 2.

>

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>

> What They Should Tell You:

>

> “Statins are immune system suppressors and kill Helper T-cells.â€

>

> Statin is an Immune system suppressor: “This unexpected effect provides a

scientific rationale for using statins as immunosuppressors, not only in organ

transplantation, but in numerous other conditions as well,†according to lead

author Dr. Brenda Kwak, of the Foundation for Medical Research in Geneva,

Switzerland, and colleagues. The concentrations of the drugs were very similar

to doses used in patients.

>

> Nature Medicine 2000;6:1311- 1312, 1399-1402.

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> Lipid-Lowering Drugs and Cancer

>

> n a review of the scientific research on the carcinogenicity of the members of

the two most popular classes of lipid-lowering drugs (the fibrates and the

statins) it was Found That All Cause Cancer In Rodents.Conclusion of the study:

“The results of experiments in animals and humans suggest that lipid-lowering

drug treatment, especially with the fibrates and statins, should be avoided

except in patients at high short-term risk of coronary heart disease.â€

> Newman TB, Hulley SB.Department of Laboratory Medicine, School of Medicine,

University of California, San Francisco

>

> “How did it happen that cholesterol- lowering agents were approved by the

FDA for long-term use in spite of their animal carcinogenicity?â€

>

> Thomas B. Newman, MD, MPH, Stephan B. Hulley, MD, MPH in their research on

Carcinogenicity of Lipid-Lowering Drugs went to dig in the minutes of the

Endocrinologic and Metabolic Drugs Advisory Committee meetings (under the

Freedom of Information Act) during the discussion for the approbation of the

drug gemfibrozil (October 17, 1988)

>

> What they found is beyond imagination and left me speechless. “Dr. Gloria

Troendle (deputy director, Division of Metabolism and Endocrine Drug Products

for the FDA) noted that gemfibrozil belongs to a class of drugs that has been

shown to increase total mortality. It has been shown to have animal

carcinogenicity and she does not believe the FDA has ever approved a drug for

long-term prophylactic use that was carcinogenic at such low multiples of the

human dose as gemfibrozil?â€To make a long story short, only three of the nine

members of the advisory committee believed that the benefit of gemfibrozil

outweighs the risk. The FDA ignored the committee’s recommendation and granted

approval to the drug gemfibrozil. Under the Health Sentinel you will find a

section on the FDA that will give you a better idea of what they’re all bout.

> You can find all the information at:

http://www.captainclark.com/Pages/jamareport.html

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> What They Should Tell You Urgently about statins and coenzymeQ10

>

> CQ10 is an antioxidant which protects he energy-producing parts of a cell

(mitochondria) from toxic substances.Statins deplete coenzyme Q10 from your

muscles and from your blood.Even worse, it blocks the biosynthesis of coenzyme

CoQ10.

> You can actually lose up to 50% of your CoQ10. Your heart is the muscle that

consumes and needs Q10 the most in order to function.

> Coenzyme Q (10) and statins: Biochemical and clinical implications. Littarru

GP, Langsjoen P. Institute of Biochemistry, Polytechnic University of the

Marche, Via Ranieri, 60131 Ancona, Italy

>

>

> In patients with pre-existing congestive heart failure, the addition of statin

therapy causes a decrease in blood CoQ10 levels and a decline in myocardial

function.

> Folkers K., Langsjoen P., Willis R., Richardson P., Xia L., et al. Lovastatin

decreases coenzyme Q levels in humans. Proc. Nat Acad. Sci. USA. 87: 8931-8934,

1990

>

> CoQ10 is essential for the health of your heart. This is an antioxidant used

by Alternative Medicine practitioners to fight CHD on a daily basis. In a

healthy heart there is more CoQ10 than in any other muscle of the body.

> Folkers K, Littarru GP, Ho L, Runge TM, Havanonda S, Cooley D. Evidence for a

deficiency of coenzyme Q10 in human heart disease. Int Z vitaminforsch 1970;

4(3):380-390.

>

>

> A Silent Killer?

>

> tip_icon The researchers at Ghirlanda reported in a double-bind,

placebo-controlled study a decrease of 50-54% of CoQ10 levels in the statin

treatment groups, (1) and similar results were reproduced by Watts. (2)

> (1) Ghirlanda G, Oradei A, Manto A, Lippa S, Uccioli L, Caputo S, Greco AV,

Littarru GP.

> Evidence of plasma CoQ10-lowering effect by HMG-CoA reductase inhibitors: a

double-blind,

> placebo-controlled study. J Clin Pharmacol. 1993.Mar;33( 3):226-229

> (2) Watts GF, Castelluccio C, Rice-Evans C, Taub NA, Baum H, Quinn PJ. Plasma

coenzyme Q (ubiquinone)

> concentrations in patients treated with simvastatin. J Clin Pathol. Nov

1993;46(11): 1055-1057.

> Could It Be Dangerous?

>

>

> Canada insisted on warning labels for the need for supplemental CoQ10 to be

placed on every statin prescription.

>

> Before taking a statin, patients should tell their doctor or pharmacist if

they:

>

> • Are pregnant, intend to become pregnant, are breast-feeding or intend to

breast-feed.

> • Have thyroid problems.

> • Regularly drink three or more alcoholic drinks daily.

> • Are taking other cholesterol lowering medication such as fibrates

(gemfibrozil, fenofibrate) or niacin.

> • Are taking other medications, including prescription, non-prescription and

natural health products, as drug interactions are possible.

> • Have a family history of muscular disorders.

> • Had any past problems with their muscles (pain, tenderness), after using a

statin.

> • Have kidney or liver problems.

> • Have diabetes.

> • Have undergone surgery or other tissue injury.

> • Do excessive physical exercise.

> Health Canada advises consumers about important safety information on statins

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> Sorry for the length of this article this only part of the iceberg see:

http://www.jmbblog. com/coronary- heart-disease- best-kept- secrets-part-

3-drugs/

>

> 95 % of CHD can be reversed with a couple of supplements and nutrition . I

forgot.. from a recent research : statins increase the risk of heart attacks.

> John

>