Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Cervical cancer is not something you want to ignore! It is NOT an occasional cancer " . It is more frequent then you think. This what I do for a living. I see many women who blew off their paps and paid for it with their lives. It is a slow growing cancer, so women don't have any symptoms until it metasized, by then it is pretty much too late. Once it spreads it becomes aggressive and quickly kills. HPV also causes infertility as well, so if you want to have kids, you better treat it if you want kids.... ---- Gina Lawrence 3/2/2009 6:17:41 PM << >> Re: HPV Human Papilloma Virus I'm under the impression that your system will fight off the virus eventually. Maybe this is only for females. My boyfriend has it, and I finally tested positive. A year later, I tested negitive again. I would ask my doctor about this. This might be info they're not going to offer, especially since there's a lot of money to be made on additional testing and an occasional cancer scare - screening. I, too, take MMS. It never made me feel sick. I'm on a maintenance dose now. I have a friend who never made it past five drops and gave up. Strange stuff. Good luck, Gina Foster, RI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 HPV viruses don't just clear on their own. They hide on nerve cells, just like herpes viruses, do. So just because you " tested " negative, does NOT mean that the virus has cleared the body! In order to kill the HPV virus you have to treat it directly. That is why you tested positive and then later on tested negative. Laser treatment is the most effective treatment, because it kills the virus. Then you have to be smart and use condoms. Remember safe sex. Practice it. ---- Gina Lawrence 3/2/2009 6:17:41 PM << >> Re: HPV Human Papilloma Virus I'm under the impression that your system will fight off the virus eventually. Maybe this is only for females. My boyfriend has it, and I finally tested positive. A year later, I tested negitive again. I would ask my doctor about this. This might be info they're not going to offer, especially since there's a lot of money to be made on additional testing and an occasional cancer scare - screening. I, too, take MMS. It never made me feel sick. I'm on a maintenance dose now. I have a friend who never made it past five drops and gave up. Strange stuff. Good luck, Gina Foster, RI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 HPV can cause infertility and cervical cancer. If you continue to have unprotected sex with someone who doesn't treat it then you are continuing to " re-infect " yourself over and over again. Repeated exposure to untreated HPV infection just sets you up for a treatment resistant strain. I tell my patients that if you have symptoms you should not have unprotected sex. This is also the CDC's recommendations. Even with my herpes patients, I advise them to always use condoms, even with their partner or spouse. The laser treatment doesn't laser your nerves. It kills the wart. When it is hiding that is when it hides along a nerve root, not when you have an actual infection. We laser you when you have the wart visible. Liquid nitrogen also works, that is we freeze the wart off. If your partner has lesions on his penis and you have unprotected sex with him, you are exposing your cervix to disease that can cause cervicitis, which is where your cervix becomes inflammed; pus filled and that chronic inflammation can cause cancer and infertility as it moves north into the uterus. Even untreated STI's and bacteria vaginitis and yeast infections that sit on the cervix long enough can cause cervicitis which can lead to cancer[ in the right person who has the genetics] and infertility. Do you want to risk not being able to have kids or even dying? ---- Gina Lawrence 3/4/2009 6:52:53 PM << >> Re: HPV Human Papilloma Virus > " I'm under the impression that your system will fight off the virus eventually. Maybe this is only for females. My boyfriend has it, and > I finally tested positive. A year later, I tested negitive again. " I'm under this impression because I was told this by a doctor. > " I would ask my doctor about this. This might be info they're not going > to offer, especially since there's a lot of money to be made on > additional testing and an occasional cancer scare - screening. " I never advised missing a pap, nor have I missed one myself. I suggested speaking to one's doctor because, often, when one doesn't ask, one is not told. Geeze, and let me be more clear. By screening I mean the biopsies they perform when you test positive. The thought of having my nerves lazered is not too appealing. If I will never get rid of HPV and continue to have sex with the partner I got if from why use condoms? To prevent getting it more? Why doesn't this make sense to me? Gina Foster, RI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 ---- I am an NP who uses alternative Medicine in my practices, so don't assume just because i treat STI's on the front lines and knows what works and what doesn't, doesn't meant that i only use allopathic medicine. if natural medicine worked effectively in my patients with HPV, i would certanietly use it. I have 3 practices and one of my practices, i work in a free clinic and this is where i see most of the HPV cases. what the cdc recommends many times is at odds with what is seen on the front lines . I work on the front lines. many times what is recoomended by the CDC is not the most current recomendations, because it takes several yrs for the CDC to publish the most recent data that is coming in from the front lines, where STI's are not playing by the rules, so do speak. I also don't recommend using the acid treatment that the CDC recommends for topical external HPV infection, because the acid treatment can burn the delicate gential tissues and i definetly do NOT use it on the cervix. using acid on the cervix can cause severe cervicitis on its own. Examination of sex partners is not necessary for the management of genital warts because no data indicate [ that is no data that has been published as of yet. it frequently takes the CDC several yrs to publish the most recent evidence] that reinfection plays a role in recurrences. In addition, providing treatment for genital warts solely for the purpose of preventing future transmission cannot be recommended because the value of treatment in reducing infectivity is unknown. However, sex partners of patients who have genital warts might benefit from counseling and examination to assess the presence of genital warts and other STDs. The counseling of sex partners provides an opportunity for these partners to 1) learn that HPV infection is common and probably shared between partners and 2) receive STD evaluation and screening and Pap screening if they are female. Female sex partners of patients who have genital warts should be reminded that cytologic screening for cervical cancer is recommended for all sexually active women. > I tell my patients that if you have symptoms you should not have unprotected > sex. This is also the CDC's recommendations. Even with my herpes patients, I > advise them to always use condoms, even with their partner or spouse. Condoms might reduce the risk for HPV-associated diseases (e.g., genital warts and cervical cancer). Consistent condom use also may reduce the risk for genital HPV (18). HPV infection can occur in areas that are not covered or protected by a condom (e.g., scrotum, vulva, or perianus). <You seem to be implying that unprotected sex, in itself, is dangerous and should be feared. Even within the confines of a relationship. Fear itself is dangerous. Sex is scarey, I agree, but if it's gonna kill me, so be it. > lets be honest, Many STI's have mutated to a point that you can have the infection and not have any symptoms. for example we now have no symptom strains of gonorrhea; chalmydia; syphillis; HIV; Herpes and HPV [ cervix related]. It is quite common for patients to come into the office for a routine exam and testing and find out they have an STI, even with a clean [ negative] exam; on their culture or lab test reports. <I forgot to mention that my boyfriend is having the freeze treatment. He's the one with the warts, not me, unless they're way up in my cervex or on my nerves. I've never had them " treated, " so they're still the garden veriety, if at all. > So, your partner is having the liquid nitrogen therapy, good choice and most certainetly not natural medicine. How do you know what strain that they are?? do you have a magic ball that tells you what strain they are without having them biopsied?? Over 40 types infect mucosal surfaces, including the anogenital epithelium (e.g., cervix, vagina, vulva, rectum, urethra, penis, and anus). For most of these HPV types, there are sufficient data to divide them into “high-risk” (e.g., oncogenic or cancer-associated) types and “low-risk” (e.g., non-oncogenic) Types of HPV High-risk (oncogenic or cancer-associated) types Common types: 16, 18, 31, 33, 35, 39, 45, 51, 52, 56, 58, 59, 68, 82 These are considered high-risk because they can be found in association with invasive cancers of the cervix, vulva, penis, or anus (as well as other sites). • HPV 16 is the most common high-risk type, found in almost half of all cervical cancers. It is also one of the most common types found in women without cancer.8 • HPV 18 is another common high-risk virus, found not only in squamous lesions but also in glandular lesions of the cervix. HPV 18 accounts for 10% to 12% of cervical cancers.8 All of the other high-risk types can be associated with cervical cancer, but much less frequently than HPV 16 and 18. HPV types 31, 33, 45, 52, and 58 each account for between 2% to 4% of cancers. Each of the other high-risk types account for 1% or less of cancers. Low-risk (non-oncogenic) types Common types: 6, 11, 40, 42, 43, 44, 54, 61, 72, 73, 81 These can cause benign or lowgrade cervical cell changes and genital warts but are rarely, if ever, found in association with invasive cancers. • HPV 6 and HPV 11 are the low-risk viruses that are most commonly found in genital warts.8 So, if you don't know what type your partner has, how in the world do you know if they were the low risk aka " garden variety " or the high risk?? you don't and you can't know. that is why trying to protect yourself from exposure while your partner has visible lesions is the intelligent action. HPV is usually transmitted through direct skin-to-skin contact, most often during penetrative genital contact (vaginal or anal sex). Other types of genital contact in the absence of penetration (oral-genital, manual-genital, and genital-genital contact) can lead to HPV infection, but those routes of transmission are much less common than sexual intercourse.13 According to a national survey conducted in 2005, less than half of American women had heard of HPV, and only 23% of women were able to identify HPV as the primary cause of cervical cancer.66 While HPV awareness levels seem to be increasing among women (58%), it is unclear whether knowledge of its association with cervical cancer is increasing.67 Qualitative surveys indicate that women want more information about HPV, specifically with respect to transmission, prevention, progression, and treatment, as well as risk of cancer.3 http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/hpv-clinicians-brochure.htm <And, last but not least, I'm 48 years old and I'm more afraid of having children at this age than dying. And, heading toward 50, I'll soon be a walking cancer risk. If warts or sex doesn't get me something else will. I'd rather not live in fear. > who says you have to live in fear. what you need to do is be an advocate for yourself and be aware of the ways to protect yourself. also who says that just because you are turning 50 that your chances of developing cancer have increased? people are living longer than ever before. 50 is the new 40. eat right, exercise and be proactive about your health, then there is no reason not to expect that you will grow old to say the 80's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 HAVE I NOT MADE MYSELF CLEAR. I ALSO PRACTICE NATURAL MEDICINE IN MY PRACTICES. ---- Gina Lawrence 3/6/2009 7:37:10 PM << >> Re: HPV Human Papilloma Virus > http://www.cdc.gov/std/HPV/common-questions.htm So, not only have I found this most interesting web-site but also this: One of the most common human infections in the world is that caused by Human Papillomavirus (HPV). HPV, which is commonly known as " wart virus " , is a microscopic virus particle that infects the skin. In the case of HPV, the infection is actually localized directly to the infected point in the skin, as opposed to herpes simplex, where the virus goes through the skin and into the nerve cells, traveling up the nerve cell connection to the nerve ganglia by the spinal cord, where the virus lives. With HPV, the infection is actually in the skin. In the skin, not " in the nerve endings. " In fact, this paragraph seems to distinctly seperate the two conditions. Where are you getting your info? Cuz this was found by Googling HPV + Nerve and there wasn't much else to be found. Please send some written proof to validate your statements. Otherwise it's coming across as just MORE SCARE TACTICS FROM THE ALLOPATHIC MEDICAL INDUSTRY. How many people are you telling this stuff to on a daily basis? Geese, I'd rather know the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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