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I have been diagnosed as having HPV aka Genital Warts. Not fun. I would very

much like to cure it. I have tried 2 different treatments so far. One is

Zymaderm #4. No results, just a painful burning sensation. Then, I tried

MMS. The MMS is very, very powerful. I started off doing 1 drop of MMS

working my way up to 15 drops of MMS. When you mix it with the citric acid

activator, it turns into the very potent and very pungent chlorine dioxide.

Everything after 6 drops of MMS makes my stomach churn. I finally did make

it up to 15 drops, for 3 days feeling nauseous every time I took it. The

thing is, as bad as it tastes I noticed that my warts were actually

shrinking like they never were before. I mixed the MMS with water up to 6

drops, then after it got so strong I couldn't handle the taste of MMS and

water so I mixed it with Cherry Juice.

 

Anyway, if anyone knows of any other alternative cures for HPV that they

know of or have heard others successfully use, please let me know.

-Sincerely, Sam

 

 

 

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I'm under the impression that your system will fight off the virus

eventually. Maybe this is only for females. My boyfriend has it, and

I finally tested positive. A year later, I tested negitive again. I

would ask my doctor about this. This might be info they're not going

to offer, especially since there's a lot of money to be made on

additional testing and an occasional cancer scare - screening.

 

I, too, take MMS. It never made me feel sick. I'm on a maintenance

dose now. I have a friend who never made it past five drops and gave

up. Strange stuff.

 

Good luck,

 

Gina

Foster, RI

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> " I'm under the impression that your system will fight off the virus

eventually. Maybe this is only for females. My boyfriend has it, and

> I finally tested positive. A year later, I tested negitive again. "

 

I'm under this impression because I was told this by a doctor.

 

 

 

> " I would ask my doctor about this. This might be info they're not going

> to offer, especially since there's a lot of money to be made on

> additional testing and an occasional cancer scare - screening. "

 

I never advised missing a pap, nor have I missed one myself. I suggested

speaking to one's doctor because, often, when one doesn't ask, one is not told.

Geeze, and let me be more clear. By screening I mean the biopsies they perform

when you test positive.

 

The thought of having my nerves lazered is not too appealing. If I will never

get rid of HPV and continue to have sex with the partner I got if from, why use

condoms? To prevent getting it more? Why doesn't this make sense to me?

 

 

Gina

Foster, RI

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http://www.cdc.gov/std/HPV/common-questions.htm

 

I hope this will set the record straight a little, and take away a little of the

fear. This (gov) article DOES state that HPV, a virus, WILL go away on its own.

This was stated several times. It did not say the symptoms go away and the

virus lingers on (forever, on nerve endings)

 

It also says that having HPV is not neccessarily a prelude to cancer, in every

case.

 

And, since this is an alternative group, I'd rather not give up hope on

alternative treatments.

 

 

 

 

> HPV is especially resistant to alternative treatments and the only really

> effective cure is either freezing the wart with liquid nitrogen or lasering

> it off. You need to take HPV seriously, because it can migrate to your

> cervix, if it hasn't already and cause cervical cancer which doesn't

> necessarily produce symptoms until it spreads and it can kill you.

> If you are a male, HPV can cause sterility if not treated because the virus

> travels into your system and can attack your sperm.

> Nancie

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> Nancie E. Barnett, RN, MSN, FNP, NPNP

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> Sam Runner

> 2/28/2009 11:46:57 AM

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> I have been diagnosed as having HPV aka Genital Warts. Not .

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, " Nancie Elizabeth Barnett "

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> HPV can cause infertility and cervical cancer.

 

I'm glad you said " can " and not " will. " There seems to be room for question

there. I suspect you're in the allopathic medical industry and I'm not going to

argue with you.

 

>If you continue to have

> unprotected sex with someone who doesn't treat it then you are continuing to

> " re-infect " yourself over and over again. Repeated exposure to untreated HPV

> infection just sets you up for a treatment resistant strain.

 

You sound well informed but I'll be posting some info that seems to contridict

with what you're saying. This is all very interesting to hear from a medical

professional, especially with what's going on with Gardisal and all.

 

 

> I tell my patients that if you have symptoms you should not have unprotected

> sex. This is also the CDC's recommendations. Even with my herpes patients, I

> advise them to always use condoms, even with their partner or spouse.

 

You seem to be implying that unprotected sex, in itself, is dangerous and should

be feared. Even within the confines of a relationship. Fear itself is

dangerous. Sex is scarey, I agree, but if it's gonna kill me, so be it.

 

I forgot to mention that my boyfriend is having the freeze treatment. He's the

one with the warts, not me, unless they're way up in my cervex or on my nerves.

I've never had them " treated, " so they're still the garden veriety, if at all.

 

> Do you want to risk not being able to have kids or even dying?

 

And, last but not least, I'm 48 years old and I'm more afraid of having children

at this age than dying. And, heading toward 50, I'll soon be a walking cancer

risk. If warts or sex doesn't get me something else will. I'd rather not live

in fear.

 

 

 

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> Gina Lawrence

> 3/4/2009 6:52:53 PM

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> > " I'm under the impression that your system will fight off the virus

> eventually. Maybe this is only for females. My boyfriend has it, and

> > I finally tested positive. A year later, I tested negitive again. "

>

> I'm under this impression because I was told this by a doctor.

>

> > " I would ask my doctor about this. This might be info they're not going

> > to offer, especially since there's a lot of money to be made on

> > additional testing and an occasional cancer scare - screening. "

>

> I never advised missing a pap, nor have I missed one myself. I suggested

> speaking to one's doctor because, often, when one doesn't ask, one is not

> told. Geeze, and let me be more clear. By screening I mean the biopsies they

> perform when you test positive.

>

> The thought of having my nerves lazered is not too appealing. If I will

> never get rid of HPV and continue to have sex with the partner I got if from

> why use condoms? To prevent getting it more? Why doesn't this make sense to

> me?

>

> Gina

> Foster, RI

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> http://www.cdc.gov/std/HPV/common-questions.htm

 

So, not only have I found this most interesting web-site but also this:

 

One of the most common human infections in the world is that caused by Human

Papillomavirus (HPV). HPV, which is commonly known as " wart virus " , is a

microscopic virus particle that infects the skin. In the case of HPV, the

infection is actually localized directly to the infected point in the skin, as

opposed to herpes simplex, where the virus goes through the skin and into the

nerve cells, traveling up the nerve cell connection to the nerve ganglia by the

spinal cord, where the virus lives. With HPV, the infection is actually in the

skin.

 

In the skin, not " in the nerve endings. " In fact, this paragraph seems to

distinctly seperate the two conditions.

 

Where are you getting your info? Cuz this was found by Googling HPV + Nerve and

there wasn't much else to be found.

 

Please send some written proof to validate your statements. Otherwise it's

coming across as just MORE SCARE TACTICS FROM THE ALLOPATHIC MEDICAL INDUSTRY.

How many people are you telling this stuff to on a daily basis? Geese, I'd

rather know the truth.

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Ok, I already had to trim a post because it was getting to close to flaming.

This topic is getting too heated. We will be taking a break for 2 months to let

this all cool down. Thanks for understanding.

 

Moderator

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First, to try to respond to all that data...too much. But, I'll say: to be a

personal advocate and require condoms during sex would not be the popular choice

and might land me, eventually, an advocate of one, permanently. Also, condoms

would probably not work since it is skin contact that spreads warts. The only

real protection is not having sex and that still does not rule out skin contact

in a personal relationship.

 

I'd rather be a team player in my relationship. If he has virus # 12, 24 & 18.5

then so do I, and we will both deal with the consequences. Especially since the

CDC admits they go away with most people (women?) I'm finding it hard to

believe they linger on my nerves as you previously stated.

 

And, as far as allopathic vs alternative, my boyfriend is not a member of this

group. I am. He decided to be treated on his own. I believe msm and dmso

might have some effect on warts but I've not directly tried it. (At least

someone has thrown something out there.)

 

I said " garden variety. " I don't know if they're high or low risk, or if

they've gone away as my last pap indicated. I will not live in fear of it. I

do know they're not becoming resistant by re-treatment. That was the point of

mentioning it.

 

I don't have a magic ball, and the doctor neglected to tell me what type they

were (just how important was it for me to know? Hush, hush!) I didn't think to

ask. I found the biopsy to be a bit invasive and expensive. They wanted to get

two in but I balked at the second, then passed a pap. Wow, I'm living

dangerously. I'm sure I should be very afraid right now. I'm sure I should

schedule an appointment to check on those buggers but with all the mis-info,

screwed up paperwork, lack of insurance, and lack of all-around trust in the

allopathic medical system (and their scare tactics: how would you like to

die? " ) I can't seem to find a " primary care provider " to refer me, especially to

Planned Parenthood, my personal choice. I'm not sure which way to turn but

that's probably a result of the chalmydia; syphillis; HPV/ mold fungus lyme type

Spirochaetes that are morphing in my brain, and the rest of the population's.

 

Good luck with your practice. I'm sure you'll have the last word here. I'm not

going to respond since it consumes too much of my time, so have at it.

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Please understand, after this evening we will take a break from this topic.

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HPV can be scary to hear, I know I was when my doc told me I had it....prior

to having a " procedure " done I tried a Chinese herb that my alternative

practitioner got for me, I took it both by mouth and inserted...was a bit

yucky and burned a little bit,...BUT when I went back for my next exam all

of the tissue on this side of my cervix was wonderful and pink....

 

 

 

My problem was they could not see on the otherside...so I ended up doing the

procedure for safety sake.

 

 

 

Since that time - about 8 years ago, I have had some bad paps come back, but

usually the next one will be ok....so I go usually every 6 mo's and

sometimes every 3 mo's.

 

 

 

When my immune system is down (candida?? And thyroid) I think it gets worse,

stress most certainly can contribute

 

 

 

SeaLady

 

 

 

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