Oregano ** Natural Anti-Fungals

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Hi Bob .. other good folks ..

 

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> I have been researching what natural anti fungal products to take as the

> pharms are tough on the liver amoung other things Ive heard.

> These are some I have found : caprylic acid, wild mountain oregano oil,

> olive leaf extract, L -glutamine, pau de arco, garlic, grape seed

> extract, undelaic sp? acid, apple cider vinegar Proteolytic enzymes

> and a few anti fungal homeopathic's.

 

Except for one item, I won't comment on the list you provided above since I

long ago learned it was a lost cause to try to insert reality into the

fictional world of natural products .. the one I will comment on is the

so-called " mountain grown " Origanum. A few years back a fellow named Cass

Igram wrote a book called " The Cure is in the Cupboard: How to Use Origanum

for Better Health " .. of some such title. In this book Igram claimed that

ONLY wild, mountain grown Turkish Origanum vulgare had

therapeutic properties .. all the others were a waste of time, etc. This

was total hawg warsh but Igram and the company her worked with. North

American Herb and Spice, made a lot of money with such claims .. he was on

the radio often and his company even got into multi-level marketing.

Pretty soon we had a fad going and everybody and his buddy did a spring off

and started selling Oregano .. calling it Mountain Grown Origanum vulgare.

 

The problems with these claims are .. they are not factual. And .. most of

what these people (including Igram) were selling were NOT Origanum vulgare.

There is not enough wild grown Origanum vulgare produced to supply all of

those who make such claims. How do I know this? First, those who know

me consider me to be one of the knowledgeable folks on Turkish Origanums and

Rosa damascena (Rose Otto) .. and I was a major supplier to Igram for a long

time .. sold him TONS of Oregano Essential Oil each month .. and it was NOT

all Origanum vulgare. It mattered not that it was not because it is NOT

only Origanum vulgare that has powerful therapeutic properties (to include

being a fantastic anti-fungal EO) .. any and all of the Origanums will do

the same thing. Oh yea .. Turkish Origanum vulgare is NOT necessarily

Mountain Grown .. true it is that the lion's share of it comes from the

southeast and the area is mountainous .. but just as much is found in the

lowlands and along the Med Coast .. and its batched .. not separated by

region.

 

In Turkey, harvest of wild grown aromatics is restricted to the peasants

only .. it is controlled by the Ministry of Forests and enforced by the

Gendarmes. The peasants in a particular area will harvest the plants and

then sell them to a broker .. that broker then hauls them into the stills ..

in many trucks. Sometimes they arrive at the still in a convoy of 5 and

10 ton trucks .. packed in 40 kilo bags. The still will do a cursory

inspection .. maybe opening a few bags and spreading the plant material out

onto a concrete floor .. what he is looking for is material that is not

Origanum. From that material he will get a yield of between 15-20 kilos of

oil per metric ton of aromatic material .. so there are many trucks showing

up.

 

I will stop here .. I could go on and on as I have written tons on the

Origanums over the years. Just to let y'all know who I am .. I am a

retired U.S. Army Military Police Officer (30 years service) .. and I have

spent 26+ years of my life living in Turkey .. I just returned from my

latest stint in Turkey (which lasted 19+ years) in summer of 2007. I was a

contract producer of EO .. among other things. I closed my company in

Turkey but still own the one in Maryland .. and I have now settled in Henry

County, TN .. near Kentucky Lake. I've been in this business since 1995

but odds are that this will be my last year because I have now learned that

I am more interested in organic gardening, fishing and hunting deer and wild

turkey. ;-)

 

The point of this post is to inform y'all .. and to save you money. You do

NOT have to swallow all the crap that is put out by sellers of Oregano EO ..

or any other natural product. It is good marketing to make one's wares

appear to be special .. but in most cases it is not factual information.

See the below for the truth.

 

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- - - - - - - - - - - FACTS ON THE ORIGANUM'S - - - - - - - - - - *

 

*All of the Origanum's except the Origanum dubium Linalool Type are

Carvacrol rich and Carvacrol is the active therapeutic component most people

seek.*

 

*Origanum vulgare* is the best seller though its really no better or worse

than any other Origanum. Maybe people think its the best because there is

one company making health claims and selling it as * " Oil of Oregano " * in a

10% Oregano/90% Olive Oil mixture for as much as $39.95 per 2/3 ounce

bottle. People see mine as being less costly. With mine, one can mix their

own and create a dozen bottles of the $39.95 product for less than half the

price. And that company is *NOT selling ONLY Origanum vulgare* .. I know

their supplier and they are producing as much *Origanum dubium Carvacrol *as

they are anything else. *

 

I will add that the company I speak of was charged with false advertising

and taken to court by the FTC. On 31 July 2008, they were fined 2.5 million

dollars and had many, many other restrictions placed on them. I believe

that they will probably have to close their company.*

 

*Origanum onites* has been the next best seller and that might be due to

some things I've written on it and a portion of the lecture I gave at an

Aromatherapy Conference in Toronto, Canada in September 1999. I presented

some research conducted by *five prominent professors in Turkey using

Origanum onites* in a project involving lung tumors in rats, using three

different groups and three treatments, one of them being a normal cancer

treatment. I presented the study and showed the audience colored micro

slides of the lung tissues. The *Origanum onites *not only stopped the

growth but also caused recession of the growths! The lung tissue was

reverting to its previously normal pink and clear state!! *I made it clear

that this is not an indication that it will cure cancer in humans but it

shows a great need for further research. *

 

*Origanum dubium Carvacrol* is the next best seller, possibly because it

appears to have a milder odor than the others. Turkish folks generally

prefer it for home medication.

 

*Contrary to the marketing claims of many fad sales companies .. to include

the one I mentioned above,* *Origanum onites and Origanum dubium

Carvacrol*have the exact same therapeutic properties as does

*Origanum vulgare.* *In fact, they are not all selling Origanum vulgare

anyway .. the world supply is not sufficient to supply all those who make

such claims. *To take it a bit further .. I have supplied companies who

make claims of selling only Origanum vulgare .. *but that is NOT all they

purchased from me. *

 

*Origanum dubium (Linalool type)* is in its own class .. a very nice odor

and dual therapeutic value. It's high in *linalool,* as is lavender, and

high in *carvacrol,* as is oregano. It has properties of both oregano and

lavender .. so much so that the common name in Turkey is Lavanta Kekik

(Lavender Oregano.) It's endemic to Turkey - it is not found elsewhere and

even in Turkey it's only found in a very small corner of the Southeast. When

people get samples of it from us, they buy it. I normally use it for

inhalation and it is great for diffusion - I love the odor.

 

*I personally prefer Origanum vulgare, Origanum onites or Origanum dubium

Carvacrol for assisting in kicking Big Bad Bug Butts (cold, flu, sinuses)

and I personally believe that they help me and mine but I would never make

claims that they can kill these critters because I do not have FDA approved

studies to support it .. and I have never and will never make

recommendations or even suggestions to others on ingestion of essential

oils. I recommend buyers consult their doctor prior to this manner of

usage. *

 

For diffusion any one will do the job but just for inhalation, I'd go with

the *Origanum dubium (Linalool type)* because I love the odor.

Unfortunately, it is out of stock now . there is none in the market this

year.

 

*All Origanum's *have reported antiseptic, anti microbial, anti fungal,

anti-spasmodic properties and they are believed to be capable of stimulating

the immune system .. which can assist the body to overcome viral infections

by putting the virus in a retrograde mode.. by stopping its reproduction so

it goes back into defilade position. *The above statement is based on in

vivo and in vitro studies on the properties of Carvacrol but it would be a

violation of FDA and FTC regulations to extrapolate information from those

lab studies and attempt to indicate that they apply to human beings ..

accordingly, I do not make such claims.*

 

*So - one can choose based on the above descriptions of each oil. *

> Any help you can provide me with , or products you feel may help me

> would be so appreciated,

 

I hope I have been able to do that. In case you did not notice .. I am not

known for brevity. ;-)

 

> Be well,

> Bob from NY

 

And you .. have a nice day .. and keep smiling. :-)

 

Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com <http://www.av-at.com/>

 

PS: *Aromatic Journeys: *If you would like to take a trip through the

Rose Fields and Stills of Turkey, go to the following links ...

 

*My writings on distillation of Turkish Rose Otto can be found

athttp://www.av-at.com/distillation/rosadamascena1.html

 

Here is a link with lots of good photos of wild aromatic plants of Turkey

http://www.av-at.com/stuff/triptoturkey.html

 

Martin Watt visited the Turkish Rose Fields in Summer 2000 - the following

article on his trip was published in the Winter 2000 edition of the European

magazine " Aromatica " .

http://www.aromamedical.com/articles/rosedistillation.htm*

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Wow, I really appreciate when someone exposes the real truth.  I too read the

book you speak of and it did introduce me to the abilities of Oil of

Oregano. But, was wondering if that product they spoke of as the only one was

really true.

Thank you for explaining, and exposing the truth of the matter.

Thank you for also telling us the acurate types of Oregano to use.

Now a question:

 

Do you have any source of info, a book, literature-which tells how to use the

Oil of OR. for what problems, doses recommended, etc.

As oil of Or. is now being used to cure infections that antibotics can't

touch,such as MRSA, how would one know how much to administer?

There are so many supposed uses for it, but the little bottle doesn't tell you

anything much!

Any info, would be most helpful.

Thanks again,

Gina in IL