Guest guest Posted June 23, 2002 Report Share Posted June 23, 2002 Nannette: If someone comes in with Phase IV cancer and you haven't worked on any cancer patients before, the best thing would be to refer them on to someone in your area that has. It could also be an opportunity for you to follow along and gain more experience. To already help answer your basic questions, there is a small body of CM literature on cancer in print. Have you researched the CM literature on cancer? Even in translation there is a variety of herbal formulas for treatment strategies as well as for the side effects of radiation and drugs. And, have you studied any system of pulse diagnosis beyond basic TCM so you are able to follow the specific cancer sites in her pulses so you can see if the cancer is spreading to the liver, lungs, or brain, or see the effect of the drugs and your treatment on the cancer? Are you familiar with using 5-Phases? Cancer is easier to understand using 5-Phases. In this patient's case the situation is even more dire because the perverse growth is already spreading. Cancer may spread along the control (ke) cycle in 5-Phases. In this case, it looks like it has already spread from wood (any abnormal growth) to earth (lymph) to water (bladder). In her situation, you might expect it to go next to the brain (because of its association with the SJ or fire phase)---but it also could also travel through the lymph anywhere. If you haven't yet done or considered those things, you can still help her and treat the symptoms of the chemo side effects using TCM s/s diagnosis to make the patient more comfortable. To help build her vital energy and support her immune system, you can use any number of basic formulas. I often like to use a combination of Shi Quan Da Bu Tang or blood building formula with a variation of Tuo Li Xiao Du Yin (this formula is found in the Qualiherb catalog). There's a Korean folk medicine for vital energy made by boiling a whole chicken with 4 oz of Huang qi (astralagus). The key is to cook it long enough (often more than 4 hours) until the bones collapse on their own or to a light touch with a spoon. It makes a sweet and tasty chicken soup. At the beginning of cooking you can add potatoes, lots of garlic and onions, or whatever the patient likes in soup. Near the end of cooking, she should add Shitake and other mushrooms. This soup can be made weekly. The Koreans say that if you eat it regularly, you never get hot in summer or cold in winter. In any case, it adds Huang qi's energy to the energy of the marrow for strong vital energy. It can be used for any depleted patient. I hope this is of some help. Good luck. Jim Ramholz , " nanette128 " <Nanette128@m...> wrote: > I've got a patient with stage IV ovarian cancer and she is interested > in trying Chinese herbs at this point. She'll go in for chemo in a > couple of weeks, and I would like to get her started on something. I > know that her cancer has spread to the bladder and into her abdomen. > She's currently taking Adriamyacin and Cytoxin. Has anyone had > success in treating this? I was thinking of helping to boost her Sp > Qi for the upcoming chemo to help her remain strong, and at the same > time possibly giving her some " move blood " herbs for moving out the > tumor. > > I would appreciate any suggestions you might have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Greetings, My sister in law has a recurrence of ovarian cancer and needs to have surgery and then will opt for chemotherapy again. What do you recommend her do? Talking her out of chemo, etc doesn't work for she fears too much and trusts modern medicine. I told her about graviola and will order Essiac tea for her. Anything else that is more efficient? Thanks much, Maria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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