Seeing Through Spin of Citizens for Health & The Natural Solutions Foundatio

[Guest guest]

Moderator's Note: I have had personal experience corresponding with Dr. Laibow

and have followed her actions for years- my feelings are that she is not what

she seems to be. I don't have time nor interest to fully outline my thoughts,

just recommend you look closely at her actions/results- do they represent true

health freedom or do they encourage more regulation/legislative enslavement that

allows further strenghtening of big pharma at the expense of health freedom but

in the name of health freedom.

--------------------

 

I have read many posts passing on info from Rima Laibow about the

Codex threat. I have also read material from Doctor Rath disputing

Laibow's statements. Both are quite egotistical so hard to know

which one is blowing hot air out the butt.

 

The website http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm is

not well proofread. I am not saying the information is wrong. Just

saying that it looks slap dash and may not be as clear a critique as

it could be.

 

Alobar

 

 

 

 

On 8/21/08, bestsurprise2002 <bestsurprise2002 wrote:

> Seeing Through Spin of " Citizens for Health " and " The Natural Solutions

> Foundation " on the CODEX Vitamin Issue

>

>

>

> CONTROLLED OPPOSITION GROUPS

> _http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm_

>

> (http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm

> )

> " Citizens for Health " and " Natural Solutions Foundation " are controlled

> opposition groups on the Codex issue. We believe the true purpose of these

groups

> is to assist the pharma dominated vitamin trade associations by recommending

> grass roots actions which appear plausible on the surface to the poorly

> informed, but which upon close inspection fail to hold up to careful

scrutiny.

> We believe these groups are attempting to intentionally divert grass roots

> attention from the strategy of IAHF and allied organizations. In a nutshell,

> their mission is to:

> A) Con people into believing that we can change Codex AT Codex (despite the

> fact that we have zero political influence over the unelected bureaucrats

> from the FDA and its international equivalents that serve as delegates at

these

> highly rigged meetings.) and

> B) Con people into believing that countries which adopt " Model Legislation "

> patterned after the US Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act would be

> " protected " in the event of a WTO Trade Dispute Ruling against them. (James

> Turner, esq, who originated this plan has failed to explain any viable legal

> mechanism to support his contention that this could work. * See IAHF's

detailed

> analysis of CFH and NSF's " LEGAL SUMMARY " below.

> C) Con people into believing that they're " fighting back " by signing a

> petition to US Codex Manager Ed Scarbrough (an unelected bureaucrat at the

USDA

> who has never attempted to rein in FDA officials who've served as US

Delegates

> at CODEX (even when their actions have gone directly against US law.)

> Even when Scarbrough and the US Codex Delegates have obviously IGNORED this

> petition at recent Codex meetings, Citizens for Health and the Natural

> Solutions Foundation would still have us believe that signing it and sending

it in

> to Scarbrough are a viable means of " fighting back. "

> D) Con people into believing that there is " no connection " between

> sovereignty destroying trade agreements such as NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA and Codex

in an

> obvious effort to keep people from exercising the political leverage that we

DO

> have with CONGRESS (but which we DON'T have with unelected Codex bureaucrats

> from the world's FDA's.) Citizens for Health and now also the " Natural

> Solutions Foundation " have a long history of doing spin against true grass

roots

> anti Codex campaigns.

> These groups are making ZERO EFFORT to alert the public to the dire need to

> oppose clear efforts to destroy America and to force us into a planned North

> American Union.

> Its clear that their TRUE MOTIVE is to support the agenda of the large

> pharmaceutical companies that are controlling the vitamin trade associations

from

> the top-down which WANT CODEX, which WANT one size fits all regulations for

> the planet. In this section we explore this and also explore the gross

> conflicts of interest inherent in these organizations which have very close

ties

> with such pharma dominated vitamin trade associations as CRN, and NNFA.

[Guest guest]

Dear Alobar,

 

Someone sent me a letter by Rima Laibow (pasted below) in which she

states that she doesn't believe that chemicals have an effect on the brain.

She ignores all research findings about neurotoxicity and mental health.

[DOC] Recognizing neurotoxicityFile Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML

28 Feb 2006 ... Recognizing Neurotoxicity Singer and Johnson - Page of 7

..... It would be ideal to have an X-ray that would show what's gone wrong in

the ...

www.neurotox.com/Recognizing_Neurotoxicity.doc - Similar pages

by R Singer - Related articles

 

[PDF] RAYMOND SINGER, PH.D.File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML

Website: www.neurotox.com/ E-mail: ray.singer ..... Singer, R. and

Johnson, D. D. (2006, March). Recognizing neurotoxicity, TRIAL, Mar. 2006,

....

www.neurotox.com/Vita.pdf -

 

 

Kind regards,

Dorothee

 

P.S.Rima Laibow's letter:

As a psychiatrist (and physician, I am always eager to remember and remind

other people) who has practiced drug free psychiatry and medicine for nearly

40 years, I want to agree AND disagree with your article and a related one

which states that the only solution and option to psychiatry is political

and with your compendium of research showing that there are other, effective

alternatives to help people who are experiencing the difficulties (which are

very real) commonly - and incorrectly - diagnosed by psychiatrists and

others who are even more woefully inadequately trained in these matters.

 

I agree that psychiatric drugs, like just about ALL drugs and vaccines, are

dangerous, frequently lethal, especially in combination, and have no place

in the treatment of chronic disease, often, in fact, causing it. I agree

that political solutions are essential to solve the problems which the

so-called " illness care " industry has profited so tragically and hugely from

for so long.

 

In fact, I am a full time (and then some) political/social activist in the

service of natural health and health freedom as the Medical Director of the

not for profit, tax exempt Natural Solutions Foundation,

www.HealthFreedomUSA.org. We engage in Congressional education (we are

forbidden from lobbying by the IRS to preserve our tax exempt status),

net-roots action, http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=187, (we

are are the largest net roots health freedom organization in the world, as a

matter of fact) and act frequently against compulsory drugging (including

compulsory vaccination, another atrocity), drugging of children, teen

screen, drugging of pregnant and post partum mothers, etc.

 

But the place where I disagree is that toxic foods and chemicals damage the

brain as much as any other organ. Degraded nutritional status causes the

brain to deteriorate and malfunction as much as any other organ. Genetic

differences in responses to mercury, organophosphate pesticides,

prophyrin-inducing toxins, lack of minerals or their absorption and a host

of other environmental factors, often, but not always referrent to diet and

nutrition, have an effect nothing short of profound upon mood, emotion,

perception, thinking, attention and reasoning. Therefore, detoxification and

orthomolecular/nutritional psychiatry and medicine are astoundingly easy to

practice and the effects are little short of miraculous, especially compared

to the tragic downward spiral so common in allopathic, drug dependent

medicine.

 

Add to that set of non toxic, curative tools psychotherapy and the medicine

of frequency regulation, including neurobiofeedback, a totally voluntary

regulation of brain cell-to-cell communication, micropulse treatments,

acupuncture and similar treatments and you have a powerful, non toxic,

effective and affordable management structure to treat - and, dare I say it,

cure just about anything that needs treatment and cure. So the problems are,

in my mind, not linear, but multi-dimensional and the solutions are,

likewise, multi-dimentional.

 

The attack is severe and mounting quickly as the pharmaceutical giant called

Illness Care attempts to quash all economic competitors. Currently I am at a

Codex Alimentarus meeting in Geneva, Switzerland, where food is degraded

through international standards. Created by the Pharmaceutical Industry as a

tool to enhance illness and therefore business, this international body is

the apotheosis of the Illness's Industry's lack of ethics and moral compass,

of which psychiartric drugs are but a part - a highly lucrative and deeply

dangerous part, put one among many.

 

In fact, that's what my practice has been about for my entire career.

 

So yes, the solution is political. It also rests in better, more enlightened

medical practice and social action. Together, these strategies can take back

our health and our health freedom. Oh, yes, we have to take back food

production, too, and for that purpose the Natural Solutions Foundation has

initiated the International Decade of Nutrition,

www.NaturalSolutionsFoundation.org and the Valley of the Moon Eco Community

Demonstration Project with a BeyondOrganic zero emissions farm and farm

school, natural medicine center and spa, homes, etc. to disseminate

sustainable information globally.

 

For more information on our strategies and our work, and to help us move

forward together, please visit our site, www.HealthFreedomUSA.org.

 

Yours in health and freedom,

Dr. Rima

Rima E. Laibow, MD

Medical Director

Natural Solutions Foundation

www.HealthFreedomUSA.org

www.GlobalHealthFreedom.org

www.Organics4U.org

www.NaturalSolutionsFoundation.org

 

 

On 8/25/08, Alobar <Alobar wrote:

>

> Moderator's Note: I have had personal experience corresponding with Dr.

> Laibow and have followed her actions for years- my feelings are that she is

> not what she seems to be. I don't have time nor interest to fully outline my

> thoughts, just recommend you look closely at her actions/results- do they

> represent true health freedom or do they encourage more

> regulation/legislative enslavement that allows further strenghtening of big

> pharma at the expense of health freedom but in the name of health freedom.

> --------------------

>

> I have read many posts passing on info from Rima Laibow about the

> Codex threat. I have also read material from Doctor Rath disputing

> Laibow's statements. Both are quite egotistical so hard to know

> which one is blowing hot air out the butt.

>

> The website http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm is

> not well proofread. I am not saying the information is wrong. Just

> saying that it looks slap dash and may not be as clear a critique as

> it could be.

>

> Alobar

>

> On 8/21/08, bestsurprise2002 <bestsurprise2002%40> <

> bestsurprise2002 <bestsurprise2002%40>> wrote:

> > Seeing Through Spin of " Citizens for Health " and " The Natural Solutions

> > Foundation " on the CODEX Vitamin Issue

> >

> >

> >

> > CONTROLLED OPPOSITION GROUPS

> > _http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm_

> >

> > (http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm

> > )

> > " Citizens for Health " and " Natural Solutions Foundation " are controlled

> > opposition groups on the Codex issue. We believe the true purpose of

> these groups

> > is to assist the pharma dominated vitamin trade associations by

> recommending

> > grass roots actions which appear plausible on the surface to the poorly

> > informed, but which upon close inspection fail to hold up to careful

> scrutiny.

> > We believe these groups are attempting to intentionally divert grass

> roots

> > attention from the strategy of IAHF and allied organizations. In a

> nutshell,

> > their mission is to:

> > A) Con people into believing that we can change Codex AT Codex (despite

> the

> > fact that we have zero political influence over the unelected bureaucrats

> > from the FDA and its international equivalents that serve as delegates at

> these

> > highly rigged meetings.) and

> > B) Con people into believing that countries which adopt " Model

> Legislation "

> > patterned after the US Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act would

> be

> > " protected " in the event of a WTO Trade Dispute Ruling against them.

> (James

> > Turner, esq, who originated this plan has failed to explain any viable

> legal

> > mechanism to support his contention that this could work. * See IAHF's

> detailed

> > analysis of CFH and NSF's " LEGAL SUMMARY " below.

> > C) Con people into believing that they're " fighting back " by signing a

> > petition to US Codex Manager Ed Scarbrough (an unelected bureaucrat at

> the USDA

> > who has never attempted to rein in FDA officials who've served as US

> Delegates

> > at CODEX (even when their actions have gone directly against US law.)

> > Even when Scarbrough and the US Codex Delegates have obviously IGNORED

> this

> > petition at recent Codex meetings, Citizens for Health and the Natural

> > Solutions Foundation would still have us believe that signing it and

> sending it in

> > to Scarbrough are a viable means of " fighting back. "

> > D) Con people into believing that there is " no connection " between

> > sovereignty destroying trade agreements such as NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA and

> Codex in an

> > obvious effort to keep people from exercising the political leverage that

> we DO

> > have with CONGRESS (but which we DON'T have with unelected Codex

> bureaucrats

> > from the world's FDA's.) Citizens for Health and now also the " Natural

> > Solutions Foundation " have a long history of doing spin against true

> grass roots

> > anti Codex campaigns.

> > These groups are making ZERO EFFORT to alert the public to the dire need

> to

> > oppose clear efforts to destroy America and to force us into a planned

> North

> > American Union.

> > Its clear that their TRUE MOTIVE is to support the agenda of the large

> > pharmaceutical companies that are controlling the vitamin trade

> associations from

> > the top-down which WANT CODEX, which WANT one size fits all regulations

> for

> > the planet. In this section we explore this and also explore the gross

> > conflicts of interest inherent in these organizations which have very

> close ties

> > with such pharma dominated vitamin trade associations as CRN, and NNFA.

>

>