Guest guest Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Dr Chenely lists a few effective atlernatives for Klonopin at http://www.dfwcfids.org/medical/klonopin.html From this article: On a handout entitled " Neuroprotection via Threshold Potentials " , Cheney lists six substances that can protect the brain. Under the category " NMDA Blockers " Cheney lists: 1. parenteral magnesium and taurine (intramuscular injections of magnesium and taurine, usually given with procaine) 2. histamine blockers (Doxepin Elixir) Under the category " GABA Agonists " (increases GABA) Cheney lists: 3. Klonopin 4. Neurontin 5. Kava Kava 6. Valerian Root Klonopin is taken " day and night " ; Neurontin " night, or day & night " ; kava kava daytime only; and valerian nighttime only. The first four are by prescription, the last two are herbs. In my limited experience, only certain patients are put on magnesium/ taurine injections, and then only for a limited period before switching to oral supplements. Many myths abound concerning Klonopin. When I asked Dr. Cheney about these myths, he shared the following information I personally can vouch for Kava Kava - I took it for 3 years but I live in Canada and our equivalent of your FDA, which is called Health Canada, decided to that they would take it off the shelves permanently. I miss it - it was good for sleep as well as anxiety, etc and it never made me feel awful as drugs do. However with all herbs do not take more then it says unless you are being supervised by a doctor who is familiar with it. And remember that most natural things that are potent enough to help you are also potent enough to hurt you if misused. Increase the dose slowly to see how it effects you. I took the maximum dose for most of those 3 years but I started out on a half dose. Also and the magnesium taurate is effective. If you can't or don't want to go with injections or IV, you can get magnesium taurate in tablets [ also try to get it with no fillers or in particular with no form of stearates ]. It is one of the most effective and best diagested and utilized forms of magnesium. It and magnesium glycinate and magnesium chloride will be far more effective then the others - this is partly because if you are taking it orally, there is a problem with digestion plus it has to be in your body for 24 hours before being digested. Magnesium if one of the most needed of nutrients and 80% of the population is evidently deficient. It is also great for migraine headaches and so much more. www.mgwater.com and www.magnesiumforlife.com/ are two very good websites to find a lot of info about magnesium. One of the most frequent uses of magnesium is to cure depression. Here are a couple of urls - but if you want more in depression and magnesium, you will find it at www.mgwater.com. It also has a list of many many conditions - click on the link and it will take you to condition-specific studies/articles. By the way, I take 5400 mg of magnesium glycinate in 3 divided doses every single day - I take it for many reasons including anxiety, being jumpy, nerves, sleep, I used to have seizures too but don't anymore, loss of sensation in hands - don't have this anymore either, etc. I have taken Klonopin and also researched for a law firm many otherh similar drugs - they are very very bad for you, both short and also especially long term.(we won the law case) SIGNIFICANT MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY IN DEPRESSION By Richard H. Cox, Ph.D.,C. Norman Shealy, M.D., Ph.D. Roger K. Cady, M.D., Diane Veehoff, R.N., M.S.W., Ph.D., Mariann Burnetti Awell, Psy.D., Rita Houston, L.P.N. The current report summarizes the frequency of magnesium deficiency in depressed patients as well as the greater accuracy of the magnesium load test over various blood levels for measuring metabolic competency of this critical mineral. http://www.healingpeople.com/index.php? option=com_content & task=view & id=356 & Itemid=14 Rapid Recovery From Depression Using Magnesium Treatment There is large graph here showing many of the mental symptoms of magnesium deficiency. http://george-eby-research.com/html/dep.html#iodine Migraines, Sleeplessness, Heart Attacks - Magnesium? '... important for nerve conduction, muscle contraction, blood vessel relaxation and tensing and thus blood pressure, and a normal heart beat. Epidemiological findings & supplementation trials show that people's magnesium status is associated with the severity and frequency of migraine headaches, some forms of heart attacks, high blood pressure, sleep disorders and mood disturbances.' 'In a much more severe form, some of these changes in heart rhythm or beat can result in heart muscle contractions that do not move blood throughout the body and lead to death. So magnesium is definitely needed for a healthy.' 'Studies show that about half of migraine headache sufferers have a low amount of ionized magnesium in the blood, which suggests a low magnesium status. And magnesium supplementation reduces the number and duration of migraines, including menstrual migraines, in some people. The findings suggest that too little magnesium can worsen the suffering from migraine headaches.' http://www.ars.usda.gov/News/docs.htm?docid=10874 Magnesium's Impact on Health and Vitality Magnesium is nothing short of a miracle mineral in its healing effect on a wide range of diseases as well as in its ability to rejuvenate the aging body. We know that it is essential for many enzyme reactions, especially in regard to cellular energy production, for the health of the brain and nervous system, for healthy teeth and bones and is also an impressive infection fighter. You will also find Shirley's opinion of Mark's new book, " Transdermal Magnesium Chloride' on this page. http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/magnesium.htm blessings Shan , " dayray41 " <dayray41 wrote: > > I've been on antidepressents for 16 yrs, & would like to get off them > too. I'm also on Klonipin, & that is a whole other topic. I have been > researching alot of natural supplements & vitamin. saMe, 5-HTP all > promising. St. johns wort (depends on your blood type, type O's tend to > be bleeders. St. john wort thins the blood.) Have complete blood work > done & check into eating for your blood type. You are definently going > through withdrawl. What is the extent of your disability? Also you > should of started taking supplements & vitamins before going off meds. > But believe me when I say this, You are not alone, there are alot of > people that feel the same why you do right now. I will keep you in my > prayers. Keep us posted, 13 comments have been posted so far, we do > care! God bless! Dawn from OH. > > ===================== > Posted through Grouply, the better way > to access your like this one. > http://www.grouply.com/?code=post > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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