Dairy and the SCD

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Poster's Comment: This is part of a long article on milk called 'Dairy - the

Multi-faceted Substance'. _http://www.enzymestuff.com/discussiondairy.htm#7_

(http://www.enzymestuff.com/discussiondairy.htm#7) I thought the

information about how there are substances in milk yogurt which break down

casien was

quite interesting. For those whom drink Kefir or any fermented milk products

- after reading this, I would think the same thing applies as for yogurt.

Dairy and the SCD

 

There is a concern among some that would like to follow the Specific

Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) and are hesistant to consider the yogurt and cheese

recommended on _SCD_ (http://www.enzymestuff.com/dietsscd.htm) . Here are some

thoughts.

The SCD allows certain dairy products. One is a specially made yogurt.

Yogurt made this way allows time for it to 'ferment' which breaks down all of

the

lactose. Thus, there is no milk sugar to upset the stomach, the intestines,

or feed any yeast/bacteria which may be lurking in the the gut.

One thing I have been looking at is the enzymes produced by the lactic acid

bacteria in yogurt and fermented cheeses. Experience shows that people doing

the Specific Carbohydrate Diet and having an autism condition consume the

special yogurt and cheese without supplemental enzymes and they don't have a

problem. First, not everyone with a such a spectrum condition has a problem

with

casein or gluten to begin with, so that may be part of it. But there are a

number of families now doing SCD that used to do a casein-free, gluten-free

diet (GFCF) and saw some improvement with GFCF. This would lead one to think,

" Oh, if there was improvement with GFCF, then that person has a problem

digesting casein and gluten. " However, these families quit GFCF, started SCD

(without extra enzymes and including the certain SCD dairy products) and now

the

child is doing fabulous.

I was wondering if somehow the casein is all broken down in the fermenting

process so that it isn't a problem. While looking on Pubmed and some other

sources of research, there are so many references to lactic acid bacteria

breaking down casein, it was hard to know what to pull out. It is well-known in

the

cheese making industry. DPP IV is the identified enzyme to break certain

bonds in casein. I looked up the possibility of lactic acid bacteria producing

the particular enzyme DPP IV or other enzymes that might be known to break

down casein. DPP IV and a few other specific proteases are in several enzymes

products on the market.

Yep. There is was. One of the aminopeptidases produced by lactic acid

bacteria is a prolyl dipeptidyl dipeptidase. There are other proline breaking

enzymes produced by bacteria as well. Lactobacillus and Lactococcus and

thermopolis and bulgaris and a bunch of other ones too. (I could post several

yards

worth of pubmed abstracts if someone really wants to go through it. Later I

will

collect some of these and post a link for reference.)

So what is the practical application of this?

 

It seems that if someone is doing SCD, adds the special dairy products, has

no problem with it, they should just be quite happy and go on without

worrying about the casein. There is much research showing that 'good' bacteria

in

certain dairy foods are quite capable of 'digesting' all the casein to the

extent it isn't a problem. And this means that if you are consuming those

foods,

you may not really need another separate enzyme product to break down casein.

Plus you get the good probiotics and other beneficial components in dairy

(like lactoferrin, components that fight bad bacteria, calcium, nutrients,

etc). We will keep notes on this to see if the casein ever turns out to be a

problem for those with an autism condition and doing SCD. If not, that point

becomes irrelevant and extra enzymes targeting this problem may not be

necessary.

 

My suggestion with SCD (for what it is worth, LOL) would be to add the

yogurt/cheese when possible and then only if you do not get good results and

think

an enzyme product just for casein would be helpful, consider adding one. A

good all-purpose enzyme product like the Digest Gold from Enzymedica or

Ultra-Zyme Plus from Thropps Nutrition may still be helpful, just you wouldn't

need

a specific casein product (gluten would be eliminated per the diet anyway,

and the proteases in general enzyme products would break down meats). Both of

these products are approved for SCD.

Most enzyme products are acceptable for SCD as long as they do not contain

herbs or ingredients that are not acceptable on SCD. Rice bran as a filler in

enzymes products IS acceptable and approved by the originator of SCD. The

part of the rice bran used in this way is mainly the oil, not the starch.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Moderator's Note: I would suggest a google search. Here is a link that

provides sources through out the world! And some of them are even given free or

with cost of shipping. Hope it helps.

 

http://www.torontoadvisors.com/Kefir/kefir-list.php

 

DesertSkyNM

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