Rhodiola and depression

[Guest guest]

Have you heard of Avea? It's an anti-depressant made from Tumeric:

 

The following is part of Dr Jim Howenstine's article " Is

PsychiatryScientific and

Dangerous " .

 

http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james58.htm

 

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*Causes And Therapy Of Depression.*

 

Ten percent of persons visiting physicians in the USA suffer from

depression. *Many persons with depression have either undiagnosed

hypothyroidism, are lacking omega 3 fatty acids in their diet, or are

deficient in vitamin D.* The RDA for vitamin D, at 400 IU daily, is set far

below needed levels. Everyone probably needs more than 800 IU daily, and

persons with depression or living far from the equator may benefit from 1200

IU or more daily. Correction of any of these three common conditions may

eliminate the depression.

 

*Countries with the highest intake of fish have the lowest incidence of

depression*. Less than 1% of Japanese, who average 140 pounds of fish

annually, have depression whereas 6% of persons in New Zealand are depressed

where they eat only forty pounds of fish annually. Fish contain abundant

omega 3 fatty acids. *Countries with higher average fish consumption also

have lower rates of homicide, bipolar disorder, depression, and suicide*.

 

*What Is Avea?*

 

Turmeric (curcumin) has long been used in Ayurvedic and Chinese medicine as

an anti-inflammatory, to treat digestive disorders and liver problems and

for the treatment of skin diseases and wound healing. Curcumin stimulates

the production of bile and facilitates emptying of the gall bladder. In

animals curcumin protects the liver, has anti-tumor action, reduces

inflammation and fights some infections.

 

Avea is an extract from the root of Curcuma longa, commonly know as

turmeric. Nutramedix has a proprietary formulation of curcumin that is more

effective than conventional curcumin because of special extraction and

enhancement techniques.

 

The German Commission E reports that curcumin has no known

contraindications, no known side effects and no known interactions with

other drugs. In May 2005, toxicology studies were completed on Avea at the

University of Guayaquil, Ecuador. No toxic effects were seen even when the

animals were given doses 160,000 times the equivalent human dose.

 

*Patients suffering from depression often report relief from depression

within a few hours to a few days after starting Avea*. A 38 year old woman

had been seriously depressed for more than ten years despite therapy with

several different pharmaceutical drugs. When started on her first dose of

Avea she felt less depressed after thirty minutes. The depression was gone

in 24 hours but the therapy was continued.

 

The dosage of Avea is ten to twelve drops three or four times daily.

Patients who respond rapidly to Avea should remain on this therapy for one

to two months to allow the body to reset neurochemical balances in the

brain. Patients who have been taking SSRI drugs should slowly taper off SSRI

therapy over many weeks if they wish to terminate SSRI therapy.

 

We think that persons trying Avea for depression will be pleased with this

safe rapidly acting therapy. Avea can be obtained from

naturalhealthteam.comphone 1-800-416-2806 and from

nutramedix.com phone 1-561-745-2917.

 

 

 

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Guru K <greatyoga wrote:

 

> As far as exercise, only commit to what you can and will do. Even a

> few blocks to start out is okay. Don't shoot for the moon right

> away. It has to be workable on a daily basis.

>

> GB

>

> --- In

<%40gro\

ups.com>,

> " Simon "

> <so_tired76 wrote:

> >

> > Has anyone had had any success using rhodiola as an

> > anti-depressant?I've had severe depression for at least 16 years and

> > originally self-medicated with caffiene in the day and alcohol in the

> > evening.I tried various ssri's and they had terrible mental and

> > physical side-fx.I sometimes use water soluble vitamins eg c and

> > b's,and tried st johns wort in the 90's a few times although it was

> > 300mg a day and not the 3 x 300mg I have read about in the last few

> > years.I've also read about rhodiola's use as well.I know about using

> > exercise as well,although when so depressed that I can't go outside

> > the idea of jogging a few miles is not happening.

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

There is a company in Orem, Utah called Herbal

Pharmacy. They have a product called sero 5

(natural)helps with depression. Phone # is

1-800-319-0849

--- Guru K <greatyoga wrote:

 

> As far as exercise, only commit to what you can and

> will do. Even a

> few blocks to start out is okay. Don't shoot for

> the moon right

> away. It has to be workable on a daily basis.

>

> GB

>

> ,

> " Simon "

> <so_tired76 wrote:

> >

> > Has anyone had had any success using rhodiola as

> an

> > anti-depressant?I've had severe depression for at

> least 16 years and

> > originally self-medicated with caffiene in the day

> and alcohol in the

> > evening.I tried various ssri's and they had

> terrible mental and

> > physical side-fx.I sometimes use water soluble

> vitamins eg c and

> > b's,and tried st johns wort in the 90's a few

> times although it was

> > 300mg a day and not the 3 x 300mg I have read

> about in the last few

> > years.I've also read about rhodiola's use as

> well.I know about using

> > exercise as well,although when so depressed that I

> can't go outside

> > the idea of jogging a few miles is not happening.

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Try 5-HTP, I have had great success with it; it is very good for depression,

anxiety, and grief. There is a lot of research available on the net. It is

not habit forming, the only thing it does is sometimes causes nausea - I

drink milk with it to stop that. I just had a very serious family crisis and

when things are that bad I take up to 900mg a day.

 

 

 

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As far as exercise, only commit to what you can and will do. Even a

few blocks to start out is okay. Don't shoot for the moon right

away. It has to be workable on a daily basis.

 

GB

 

Alternative- <%40>

Medicine-Forum , " Simon "

<so_tired76 wrote:

>

> Has anyone had had any success using rhodiola as an

> anti-depressant?I've had severe depression for at least 16 years and

> originally self-medicated with caffiene in the day and alcohol in the

> evening.I tried various ssri's and they had terrible mental and

> physical side-fx.I sometimes use water soluble vitamins eg c and

> b's,and tried st johns wort in the 90's a few times although it was

> 300mg a day and not the 3 x 300mg I have read about in the last few

> years.I've also read about rhodiola's use as well.I know about using

> exercise as well,although when so depressed that I can't go outside

> the idea of jogging a few miles is not happening.

>

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Can I suggest if you have a thyroid imbalance that you find a doctor who is

adept with armour thyroid or nature throid . synthroid which I was on for

close to 20 years is almost useless for many people and the long term

consequences are not good.

 

I've been off it about 6 weeks now and finally do not feel hypothyroid for

the first time ever. Lugol's solution (iodine) is also useful. Find someone

who really knows what they are doing

 

 

 

Consider bio-identical hormones and not synthetic commercial hormones

PLEASE. I am a physician and I hate hate hate hormone replacement therapy

except under very limited circumstances. Bio-identical hormones are

wonderful and so is one notch below some of the creams. I myself use

pro-gest cream.

 

 

 

For depression DHA sam-e

 

The things that were mentioned and I'm about to be trained on /learn more

about emp power plus which is a supplement of vitamins and amino acids with

an amazing track record (I don't make a penny from them!)

 

www.truehope.com

 

 

 

magnesium- you need to take the correct form so it can be absorbed. Its very

calming. If your stools become lose you know to back down on the dose.

Magnesium taurate is the best form.

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of James and

Elizabeth Carlson

Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:52 PM

 

<< >> Re: Rhodiola and depression

 

 

 

GB,

I don't know what your age is, but I went round and round with

depression for years when I use to go to main stream doctors. These

were some of the things that were part of my problem:

1. thyroid---I went undiagnosed for several years until I couldn't

get out of bed. The doctor I saw at the time gave me

antidepressants.

2. iron--- I was low on iron and my doctor at the time didn't know

3. vitamin B6 and B12

4. rhodiola

5. magnesium--this helps with many things--

6. calcium

7. arginine in the morning

8. ornithine at night

 

I would suggest you find a doctor that will check your blood for

mineral and vitamin deficiencies. Also, have your hormones

checked. If you are low on estrogen, supplementation at the correct

dose will help.

 

It took me a while before I could finally get my energy levels where

they should be. I just kept going in to have several blood tests

and even a urine test. I am grateful for my doctor.

Liz

 

 

<%40> , " Guru K "

<greatyoga wrote:

>

> As far as exercise, only commit to what you can and will do. Even

a

> few blocks to start out is okay. Don't shoot for the moon right

> away. It has to be workable on a daily basis.

>

> GB

>

>

<%40> , " Simon "

> <so_tired76@> wrote:

> >

> > Has anyone had had any success using rhodiola as an

> > anti-depressant?I've had severe depression for at least 16 years

and

> > originally self-medicated with caffiene in the day and alcohol

in the

> > evening.I tried various ssri's and they had terrible mental and

> > physical side-fx.I sometimes use water soluble vitamins eg c and

> > b's,and tried st johns wort in the 90's a few times although it

was

> > 300mg a day and not the 3 x 300mg I have read about in the last

few

> > years.I've also read about rhodiola's use as well.I know about

using

> > exercise as well,although when so depressed that I can't go

outside

> > the idea of jogging a few miles is not happening.

> >

>