Guest guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 The Claim: Too Much Cola Can Cause Kidney Problems _http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/health/nutrition/22real.html?ex=1216789200 & en=ea26eae2fbd4082d & ei=5087 & excamp=GGHLcokekidneystones & WT.srch=1 & WT.mc_ev=cli ck & WT.mc_id=HL-S-E-GG-NA-CT-coke_kidney_stones_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/health/nutrition/22real.html?ex=1216789200 & en\ =ea26eae2fbd4082d & ei=5087 & ex camp=GGHLcokekidneystones & WT.srch=1 & WT.mc_ev=click & WT.mc_id=HL-S-E-GG-NA-CT-co ke_kidney_stones) By _ANAHAD O’CONNOR_ (http://to pics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/anahad_oconnor/index.html?in\ line=nyt-per) Published: January 22, 2008 THE FACTS It is well known that too much soda can increase the risk of _diabetes_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/diabetes/overview.html?inline=n\ yt-c lassifier) and _obesity_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/symptoms/obesity/overview.html?inline=n\ yt-classifier) . But when it comes to kidney problems, is there a difference between colas and other kinds of soda? Colas contain high levels of phosphoric acid, which has been linked to _kidney stones_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/kidney-stones/overview.html?inl\ ine=nyt-classifier) and other renal problems. Much of this conclusion stems from anecdotal and circumstantial evidence. So last year, a team of scientists at the _National Institutes of Health_ (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/national_in\ stit utes_of_health/index.html?inline=nyt-org) took a closer look. In a study published in the journal Epidemiology, the team compared the dietary habits of 465 people with chronic kidney disease and 467 healthy people. After controlling for various factors, the team found that drinking two or more colas a day — whether artificially sweetened or regular — was linked to a twofold risk of chronic kidney disease. But drinking two or more noncola carbonated drinks a day, they found, did not increase the risk. The authors of the study say more research is needed, but their findings support the long-held notion that something about cola — the phosphoric acid, for example, or the ability of cola to pull _calcium_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/test/serum-calcium/overview.html?inline\ =nyt-classifier) from bones — seems to increase the risk of kidney stones, _renal failure_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/acute-kidney-failure/overview.h\ tml?inl ine=nyt-classifier) and other conditions affecting the kidneys. THE BOTTOM LINE There is good evidence that cola beverages can increase the risk of kidney problems, more so than noncola sodas. _scitimes_ (scitimes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Don't tell people that! I own Coca Cola stock! <g> stephen --------- On Feb 9, 2008, at 12:53 PM, surpriseshan2 wrote: The Claim: Too Much Cola Can Cause Kidney Problems _http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/health/nutrition/22real.html? ex=1216789200 & en=ea26eae2fbd4082d & ei=5087 & excamp=GGHLcokekidneystones & WT.srch=1 & WT.mc_ ev=cli ck & WT.mc_id=HL-S-E-GG-NA-CT-coke_kidney_stones_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/health/nutrition/22real.html? ex=1216789200 & en=ea26eae2fbd4082d & ei=5087 & ex camp=GGHLcokekidneystones & WT.srch=1 & WT.mc_ev=click & WT.mc_id=HL-S-E-GG- NA-CT-co ke_kidney_stones) By _ANAHAD O’CONNOR_ (http://to pics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/anahad_oconnor/ index.html?inline=nyt-per) Published: January 22, 2008 THE FACTS It is well known that too much soda can increase the risk of _diabetes_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/diabetes/ overview.html?inline=nyt-c lassifier) and _obesity_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/symptoms/obesity/ overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) . But when it comes to kidney problems, is there a difference between colas and other kinds of soda? Colas contain high levels of phosphoric acid, which has been linked to _kidney stones_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/kidney-stones/ overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) and other renal problems. Much of this conclusion stems from anecdotal and circumstantial evidence. So last year, a team of scientists at the _National Institutes of Health_ (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/ national_instit utes_of_health/index.html?inline=nyt-org) took a closer look. In a study published in the journal Epidemiology, the team compared the dietary habits of 465 people with chronic kidney disease and 467 healthy people. After controlling for various factors, the team found that drinking two or more colas a day — whether artificially sweetened or regular — was linked to a twofold risk of chronic kidney disease. But drinking two or more noncola carbonated drinks a day, they found, did not increase the risk. The authors of the study say more research is needed, but their findings support the long-held notion that something about cola — the phosphoric acid, for example, or the ability of cola to pull _calcium_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/test/serum-calcium/ overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) from bones — seems to increase the risk of kidney stones, _renal failure_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/acute-kidney-failure/ overview.html?inl ine=nyt-classifier) and other conditions affecting the kidneys. THE BOTTOM LINE There is good evidence that cola beverages can increase the risk of kidney problems, more so than noncola sodas. _scitimes_ (scitimes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Which of these links supports the claim that too much cola can cause kidney problems? I clicked on all of them and found none to state that? Thanks, Bonnie On Behalf Of CJE Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:47 PM Cc: MCS-Canada Re: The Claim: Too Much Cola Can Cause Kidney Problems Don't tell people that! I own Coca Cola stock! <g> stephen --------- On Feb 9, 2008, at 12:53 PM, surpriseshan2 wrote: The Claim: Too Much Cola Can Cause Kidney Problems _http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/health/nutrition/22real.html? ex=1216789200 & en=ea26eae2fbd4082d & ei=5087 & excamp=GGHLcokekidneystones & WT.srch=1 & WT.mc_ ev=cli ck & WT.mc_id=HL-S-E-GG-NA-CT-coke_kidney_stones_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/health/nutrition/22real.html? ex=1216789200 & en=ea26eae2fbd4082d & ei=5087 & ex camp=GGHLcokekidneystones & WT.srch=1 & WT.mc_ev=click & WT.mc_id=HL-S-E-GG- NA-CT-co ke_kidney_stones) By _ANAHAD O'CONNOR_ (http://to pics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/anahad_oconnor/ index.html?inline=nyt-per) Published: January 22, 2008 THE FACTS It is well known that too much soda can increase the risk of _diabetes_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/diabetes/ overview.html?inline=nyt-c lassifier) and _obesity_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/symptoms/obesity/ overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) . But when it comes to kidney problems, is there a difference between colas and other kinds of soda? Colas contain high levels of phosphoric acid, which has been linked to _kidney stones_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/kidney-stones/ overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) and other renal problems. Much of this conclusion stems from anecdotal and circumstantial evidence. So last year, a team of scientists at the _National Institutes of Health_ (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/ national_instit utes_of_health/index.html?inline=nyt-org) took a closer look. In a study published in the journal Epidemiology, the team compared the dietary habits of 465 people with chronic kidney disease and 467 healthy people. After controlling for various factors, the team found that drinking two or more colas a day - whether artificially sweetened or regular - was linked to a twofold risk of chronic kidney disease. But drinking two or more noncola carbonated drinks a day, they found, did not increase the risk. The authors of the study say more research is needed, but their findings support the long-held notion that something about cola - the phosphoric acid, for example, or the ability of cola to pull _calcium_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/test/serum-calcium/ overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) from bones - seems to increase the risk of kidney stones, _renal failure_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/acute-kidney-failure/ overview.html?inl ine=nyt-classifier) and other conditions affecting the kidneys. THE BOTTOM LINE There is good evidence that cola beverages can increase the risk of kidney problems, more so than noncola sodas. _scitimes_ (scitimes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 I thought everybody in the world knew that stuff wasn't good for you. CJE <cje0 wrote: Don't tell people that! I own Coca Cola stock! stephen --------- On Feb 9, 2008, at 12:53 PM, surpriseshan2 wrote: The Claim: Too Much Cola Can Cause Kidney Problems _http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/health/nutrition/22real.html? ex=1216789200 & en=ea26eae2fbd4082d & ei=5087 & excamp=GGHLcokekidneystones & WT.srch=1 & WT.mc_ ev=cli ck & WT.mc_id=HL-S-E-GG-NA-CT-coke_kidney_stones_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/health/nutrition/22real.html? ex=1216789200 & en=ea26eae2fbd4082d & ei=5087 & ex camp=GGHLcokekidneystones & WT.srch=1 & WT.mc_ev=click & WT.mc_id=HL-S-E-GG- NA-CT-co ke_kidney_stones) By _ANAHAD O’CONNOR_ (http://to pics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/anahad_oconnor/ index.html?inline=nyt-per) Published: January 22, 2008 THE FACTS It is well known that too much soda can increase the risk of _diabetes_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/diabetes/ overview.html?inline=nyt-c lassifier) and _obesity_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/symptoms/obesity/ overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) . But when it comes to kidney problems, is there a difference between colas and other kinds of soda? Colas contain high levels of phosphoric acid, which has been linked to _kidney stones_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/kidney-stones/ overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) and other renal problems. Much of this conclusion stems from anecdotal and circumstantial evidence. So last year, a team of scientists at the _National Institutes of Health_ (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/ national_instit utes_of_health/index.html?inline=nyt-org) took a closer look. In a study published in the journal Epidemiology, the team compared the dietary habits of 465 people with chronic kidney disease and 467 healthy people. After controlling for various factors, the team found that drinking two or more colas a day — whether artificially sweetened or regular — was linked to a twofold risk of chronic kidney disease. But drinking two or more noncola carbonated drinks a day, they found, did not increase the risk. The authors of the study say more research is needed, but their findings support the long-held notion that something about cola — the phosphoric acid, for example, or the ability of cola to pull _calcium_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/test/serum-calcium/ overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) from bones — seems to increase the risk of kidney stones, _renal failure_ (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/acute-kidney-failure/ overview.html?inl ine=nyt-classifier) and other conditions affecting the kidneys. THE BOTTOM LINE There is good evidence that cola beverages can increase the risk of kidney problems, more so than noncola sodas. _scitimes_ (scitimes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Try this url - it is the one that was originally under the title on the article when I posted it. _http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/health/nutrition/22real.html?ex=1216789200'>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/health/nutrition/22real.html?ex=1216789200 & en=ea26eae2fbd4082d & ei=5087 & excamp=GGHLcokekidneystones & WT.srch=1 & WT.mc_ev=cli ck & WT.mc_id=HL-S-E-GG-NA-CT-coke_kidney_stones_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/health/nutrition/22real.html?ex=1216789200 & en\ =ea26eae2fbd4082d & ei=5087 & ex camp=GGHLcokekidneystones & WT.srch=1 & WT.mc_ev=click & WT.mc_id=HL-S-E-GG-NA-CT-co ke_kidney_stones) blessings Shan _Re: The Claim: Too Much Cola Can Cause Kidney Problems _ (/message/51129;_ylc=X3o\ DMTJyMm4zZjVoBF9T Azk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQxOTgyNTEEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYwODE0BG1zZ0lkAzUxMTI5BHNlYw NkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzEyMDMwNjU3MDA-) Posted by: " Bonnie Sayers " _Bonnie _ (Bonnie?Subject= Re:%20The%20Claim:%20Too%20Much%20Cola%20Can%20Cause%20Kidney%20Problems) _minervabonbon _ (http://profiles./minervabonbon) Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:53 pm (PST) Which of these links supports the claim that too much cola can cause kidney problems? I clicked on all of them and found none to state that? Thanks, Bonnie --------- On Feb 9, 2008, at 12:53 PM, _surpriseshan2@surpris_ (surpriseshan2) wrote: The Claim: Too Much Cola Can Cause Kidney Problems __http://www.nytimes.http://wwhttp://www.nyhttp://wwwhttp://www.n_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/health/nutrition/22real.html?) ex=1216789200 & en=ea26eae2fbd4082d & ei=5087 & <WBR>excamp=GGHL<WBR>excamp & <WBR>WT.s & <WBR>W ev=cli ck & WT.mc_id=WT.mc_id=WT.mc_id=<WWT.mc_id=<WBR> (_http://www.nytimes.http://wwhttp://www.nyhttp://wwwhttp://www.n_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/health/nutrition/22real.html?) ex=1216789200 & <WBR>en=ea26eae2<WB & ei=5087 & <W camp=GGHLcokekidneycamp=G & WT.WT.<WB & WT.WT.<WBR>mc_ & <WBR>WT.m<WBR>WT.mc NA-CT-co ke_kidney_stones) By _ANAHAD O'CONNOR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Another list, I think, but I started a Coca Cola thread ( and I was accused of being a plant for Coca Cola (ha)) however there were LOTS of responses.It may have been a high blood pressure group but anyway- No one could document anything bad about Coke. I drink diet Coke (or Pepsi) almost everyday but if I KNEW it was harmful, would stop. Water or lemonade would probably be better cause we are told you can't hydrate with Coke but that does not make sense to me at all. When I did Chemo I was told to take my body weight, divide by 2 and then drink that many ounces of WATER every day. Coke or Pepsi did not count. Sports water was OK. Lemon in the water was OK. Carbonated water was not an option either. Or any soda. So is it the carbonation that is " bad " ? Dehydration damages the kidneys, so if you drank Coke and never drank water that could cause kidney damage. Just a thought. Zolette Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Zolette, diet Coke and diet Pepsi are sweetened with aspartame, a very potent neurotoxin. Please check out http://www.dorway.com for more information. Posted by: " Zolette Zuli " petrecipe I drink diet Coke (or Pepsi) almost everyday but if I KNEW it was harmful, would stop. Zolette Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Hi Z Ingesting excessive Carbonation will cause a higher PH.. .more acidic condition in the body and thereby encourage a bio-terrain that is friendly to things we don't want. But more crucial to many individuals who have tendencies toward various neuro problems and challenges, the " Sweetener " used in various " Diet " Drinks can cause and encourage various issues there as well. It would be good to do some study on the subject noting how much artificial sweetener you may be ingesting and what harmful effects can be found in others because of it. Best to you Michael Phoenix Rising It's not always what you look at that matters. It's what you see. Henry David Thoreau In recognition that matter is energy and that many higher levels of energy exist in reality. KNOW that By changing energy, miracles occur ! ! Clearing Dark and Detrimental Energies, Entities, Vibrations etc of all types. .. .Glad to Help! Michael Phoenix Rising �…�ï¿ï½ …..\\ | // ï¿½ï¿½ï¿ ï¦ â€¦â€¦( o o ) ~~~~~~~~~ ~o00o~(___)~o00o~~~~~~~~~~ Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 My mother refused to quit smoking because she did not believe it was bad for her. She died of lung cancer. Caffeine is a diruretic, so drinking coke is *more* harmful than not drinking anything. Phosphorous in the carbination can cause hair loss. Diet coke contains harmful fake sugars. I used to be in denial about the harmfulness of carbs until I was diagnosed with diabetes. Now I have a very limited low carb diet. I always counsel people to not wait for absolute proof of harmfulness. Big industry covers up and obfuscates health dangers of what they sell. Both the FDA and Congress are owned by big industry. The choice is yours, but I would far rather be safe than sorry with regard to questionable dangers like coke, cellphones, Aluminum pans, etc. My intention is to live a long time while being clear of mind and healthy of body when I am old. To me, that is fsr more reasonable than becoming a statistic when I die. Alobar On 2/15/08, Zolette Zuli <petrecipe wrote: > Another list, I think, but I started a Coca Cola thread ( and I was accused of being a plant for Coca Cola (ha)) however there were LOTS of responses.It may have been a high blood pressure group but anyway- > No one could document anything bad about Coke. I drink diet Coke (or Pepsi) almost everyday but if I KNEW it was harmful, would stop. Water or lemonade would probably be better cause we are told you can't hydrate with Coke but that does not make sense to me at all. When I did Chemo I was told to take my body weight, divide by 2 and then drink that many ounces of WATER every day. Coke or Pepsi did not count. Sports water was OK. Lemon in the water was OK. Carbonated water was not an option either. Or any soda. So is it the carbonation that is " bad " ? > Dehydration damages the kidneys, so if you drank Coke and never drank water that could cause kidney damage. Just a thought. > > Zolette > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Wow i didnt realize that drinking cola would be that much of a health factor in helping diease infect your body. I wonder how teens would feel about hearing this since they are the primary drinkers of the cola industry. this is so horrible! makes me glad im cutting down my caffine habit Susan , surpriseshan2 wrote: > > > The Claim: Too Much Cola Can Cause Kidney Problems > > _http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/health/nutrition/22real.html?ex=1216789200 & > en=ea26eae2fbd4082d & ei=5087 & excamp=GGHLcokekidneystones & WT.srch=1 & WT.mc_ev=cli > ck & WT.mc_id=HL-S-E-GG-NA-CT-coke_kidney_stones_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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