Help with High Cholesterol Please? :)

[Guest guest]

For the past few months my Doc has had me on one thing or another for

high Cholestrol and high blood pressure etc. Also have had a coff since

Oct.

 

I was on 3 diffrent meds at one time. Avacor was one.

 

My mother also was on this and now she has a fatty liver? If that

sounds right? Today I received Tricor. I read on there web site it too

has side effects.

 

I have finaly had enough. It's scaring the hell out of me. Im going

Holistic as of today. If I can't pronounce it, it's not entering my

body.

 

Anyone have any helpful suggestions?

 

k-

[Guest guest]

I am far from an expert on the subject, but after reading books and going to a

lecture by the Weston A. Price foundation, I stopped worring about my mildly

high (in my allopathic doctor's opinion) cholesterol. Their website has

interesting information. I eat healthy fats only, and limit processed sugar and

other unhealthy food. I am also with an excellent doctor to help with emotional

issues, which many believe are the root of many diseases. I personally knew a

family of three siblings, all in their sixties, all with 300+ cholesterol, even

though they were slim and exercised. The male sibling took a drug to lower the

cholesterol and he died shortly after of an aneurysm. His sisters decided not to

take drugs and they are healthy and in their late seventies now.

I think Dr. Mercola's website has a lot of information on cholestorol, high

blood pressure, etc., and getting with a good naturopathic doctor will probably

be helpful, and monitoring your progress with regular blood tests. This is based

on my personal opinion based on my personal experience. Also, I have found that

most of the time herbs or homeopathy, which were recommended by my naturopathic

doctor, along with rest and plenty of fluids, can help most mild coughs.

I have been on this alternative medicine journey for several years, and this

year is the first school year that my kids, so far, have perfect attendance and

I haven't missed a day of work this year, yet. It is wonderful to see my hard

work truly paying off!!

 

Carol

 

" K.M.O.S. " <gothicgeshia wrote:

For the past few months my Doc has had me on one thing or another for

high Cholestrol and high blood pressure etc. Also have had a coff since

Oct.

 

I was on 3 diffrent meds at one time. Avacor was one.

 

My mother also was on this and now she has a fatty liver? If that

sounds right? Today I received Tricor. I read on there web site it too

has side effects.

 

I have finaly had enough. It's scaring the hell out of me. Im going

Holistic as of today. If I can't pronounce it, it's not entering my

body.

 

Anyone have any helpful suggestions?

 

k-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

, " K.M.O.S. "

<gothicgeshia wrote:

>

> For the past few months my Doc has had me on one thing or another for

> high Cholestrol and high blood pressure etc. Also have had a coff since

> Oct.

>

> I was on 3 diffrent meds at one time. Avacor was one.

>

> My mother also was on this and now she has a fatty liver? If that

> sounds right? Today I received Tricor. I read on there web site it too

> has side effects.

>

> I have finaly had enough. It's scaring the hell out of me. Im going

> Holistic as of today. If I can't pronounce it, it's not entering my

> body.

>

> Anyone have any helpful suggestions?

>

> k-

>

Try going to www.watercure.com and www.watercure.com

Avoid high fat foods, sugars and stress. You should try meditation.

Request a healing at http://www.freehealing.com/. I know people don't

believe in it but it actually works, anyways it's free so all you have

to lose is a few minutes of your time reqest for a healing. It is

best to take the course which is free also if the location is near

you. meditation and diet is very important.

[Guest guest]

Try Garlinase brand for cholesterol, a low starch diet for

triglycerides and Nux omica 30C for blood pressuse. Dont forget to

eat minerla rich eggies eery day.--- In

, " masterofmind1969 "

<mikek1969 wrote:

>

> , " K.M.O.S. "

> <gothicgeshia@> wrote:

> >

> > For the past few months my Doc has had me on one thing or another

for

> > high Cholestrol and high blood pressure etc. Also have had a coff

since

> > Oct.

> >

> > I was on 3 diffrent meds at one time. Avacor was one.

> >

> > My mother also was on this and now she has a fatty liver? If that

> > sounds right? Today I received Tricor. I read on there web site

it too

> > has side effects.

> >

> > I have finaly had enough. It's scaring the hell out of me. Im

going

> > Holistic as of today. If I can't pronounce it, it's not entering

my

> > body.

> >

> > Anyone have any helpful suggestions?

> >

> > k-

> >

> Try going to www.watercure.com and www.watercure.com

> Avoid high fat foods, sugars and stress. You should try

meditation.

> Request a healing at http://www.freehealing.com/. I know people

don't

> believe in it but it actually works, anyways it's free so all you

have

> to lose is a few minutes of your time reqest for a healing. It is

> best to take the course which is free also if the location is near

> you. meditation and diet is very important.

>

[Guest guest]

K,

 

I don't know how much help my thoughts will be to

you, but your question makes me want to offer my

opinions about " high cholesterol " . <g>

 

I have known for years that we all eat with the logic

of cave men, despite having alternate requirements

now. For example; sugar was once rare. When one

encountered it, in fruit or honey or whatever, it was

quite prudent to consume as much as possible because

the lack of it might kill you before you came upon

more. But that is never true for us now.

 

And it's not just high fructose corn syrup, which is

literally in almost everything these days - it's all

sugars. We are programed to eat them. But our

instincts were formed in a different time, under

much different circumstances. People lived less

than half as long then. Just surviving long enough

to reproduce was a major feat.

 

Hold that thought.

 

I have been forming my own theory in regard to

" high cholesterol " for many years. It bugged me

that the doctors always want to lower it in every

body. As though all bodies have now become stupid

- suddenly they must not know anymore how much

cholesterol is needed, so our now-stupid bodies

just make it for no reason? Come on now - that

just sounded like nonsense to me. It still does.

 

For years and years I have been convinced that

cholesterol is in our blood for a reason, a good

reason, in fact; as a requirement. I used to

think that maybe it lubricated joints or maybe it

aided in brain function. Or; maybe it acts as a

stop-leak for veins and arteries, whatever - it

must do Something worthwhile. And that something

must be something that we need. In other words;

the cholesterol must serve some needed function

and so the artificial reducing of it is a half-assed

approach which is essentially treating the Symptom

of the real problem - not the Problem itself. And

the problem cannot be the cholesterol - it has to

be the real problem which our bodies are making the

cholesterol to combat.

 

Well, within the last few weeks it came to me: I

now think that the cholesterol is used by our

bodies to patch holes and weak spots in our

arteries and veins. And the reason the arteries

and veins Need repairing in the first place is

because of sugar.

 

As you know; high sugar levels in the blood make

things in the body go bad. With diabetic people

everything in their bodies is being damaged - by

the excess sugar in their blood stream and tissues.

 

Well, I think that is exactly what happens to people

with even sub-diabetic high-sugar levels. Just more

slowly and primarily to the blood vessels at first.

AND . . . I think that is virtually Everyone in our

society. We are literally drowning in sugar - it's

in everything. Besides the obvious soft drinks and

things you associate with sugars, it's also in

bread, catsup, sauces, salad dressings, processed

vegetables, just about everything you eat.

 

And why is it damaging our blood vessels first?

Because: where is the high sugar first? All the

time? In the blood! What is exposed to blood,

and it's too-high sugar levels, more than

anything else? The Pipes It Flows Through. <g>

 

High sugar consumption and blood blood sugar

levels are killing our arteries first. And we

are letting, in fact; forcing our bodies to

let it happen and then not be repaired - by

artificially reducing cholesterol levels.

 

The key, the answer, the proper solution to

the so-called; high cholesterol problem, is to

drastically lower sugar consumption and blood

sugar levels. Without the sugar-damaged arteries

and veins to repair - our cholesterol levels

would all fall naturally. Our bodies would have

no need of cholestorol. AND; our blood vessels

would not be failing!

 

Of course, it's just my opinion. <g>

 

stephen

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On Jan 26, 2008, at 9:19 PM, masterofmind1969 wrote:

 

" K.M.O.S. " gothicgeshia wrote:

 

For the past few months my Doc has had me on one

thing or another for high Cholesterol and high blood

pressure etc. Also have had a coff since Oct. I

was on 3 different meds at one time. Avacor was one.

My mother also was on this and now she has a fatty

liver? If that sounds right? Today I received

Tricor. I read on there web site it too has side

effects.

 

I have finally had enough. It's scaring the hell

out of me. Im going Holistic as of today. If I

can't pronounce it, it's not entering my body.

Anyone have any helpful suggestions?

 

k-

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[Guest guest]

Note that cholesterol is also the building block that the body uses to

manufacture hormones like estrogen and testosterone. It is essential

for the body. If you are worried about cholesterol, avoid statin

drugs and instead eat a bowl of oatmeal everyday.

 

You may be correct that cholesterol is a response to poor blood vessel

health rather than the cause. Or at least, it is an indicator of

possible heart disease rather than the cause. Stress may be

triggering the high cholesterol and poor blood vessel health.

[Guest guest]

Doctor Rath, the vitamin C expert agrees about arterial plaque arising

from arterial damage. He suggests taking large doses of vitamin C

plus Lysine and Proline.

 

Alobar

 

On 1/31/08, CJE <cje0 wrote:

 

> Or; maybe it acts as a

> stop-leak for veins and arteries,

[Guest guest]

Hi K,

 

I would say generally, for hypertension, you want to focus on

increasing magnesium and potassium in the diet and reducing sodium -

to adjust your cells' sodium/potassium pump and the overall balance of

these minerals in your body. It translates to a diet much higher in

fruits and vegetables and much lower in meats, processed foods,

alcohol and cigarettes. Moore (2001) has a very good book detailing this.

 

Pumpkin seeds and the rice bran from brown rice offer cholesterol

lowering beta-sitosterol, although this can also be found in

supplement forms. The isoflavones of soya (genistein & diadzein) also

combat raised cholesterol.

 

In addition to this, for high cholesterol, Murray and Pizzorno (1998)

recommend niacin (vitamin B3) supplementation for its benefits in

reducing LDL cholesterol and raising HDL cholesterol. For both

hypertension and high cholesterol, garlic and Omega 3 Essential Fatty

Acids (fish oil, EPA & DHA) are recommended (Abeywardena and Head RJ

2001) (Ali et al 2000) (Erasmus 1993) (Murray 1996).

 

I don't believe only one or two natural supplements will solve your

problems - I think you need to take a very whole-body approach here -

as hypertension and high cholesterol do indeed affect the whole body.

 

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Good books:

 

Erasmus U (1993), Fats that heal, Fats that kill. Burnaby BC Canada,

Alive Books.

 

Moore R (2001) The High Blood Pressure Solution, Vermont, Healing Arts

Press.

 

Murray M (1996) Encyclopedia of Nutritional Supplements. Roseville, Prima.

 

Murray M and Pizzorno J (1998) Encyclopedia of Natural Medicine:

Revised 2nd Edition. Rocklin,

 

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Other references:

 

Abeywardena MY, Head RJ (2001) Longchain n-3 polyunsaturated fatty

acids and blood vessel function. Cardiovasc Res. 52(3): 361-71.

 

Ali M, Al-Qattan KK, Al-Enezi F, Khanafer RM, Mustafa T (2000) Effect

of allicin from garlic powder on serum lipids and blood pressure in

rats fed with a high cholesterol diet.

Prostaglandins Leukot Essent Fatty Acids. 62(4): 253-9.

 

 

Howard B, Kritchevsky D (1997) Phytochemicals and Cardiovascular

Disease. [online] Dallas: American Heart Association. Available from:

<http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/95/11/2591>

 

Ryan E, Galvin K, O'Connor TP, Maguire AR, O'Brien NM (2007)

Phytosterol, Squalene, Tocopherol Content and Fatty Acid Profile of

Selected Seeds, Grains, and Legumes. Plant Foods Hum Nutr.

 

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Hope this helps,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

I have tried many things and here is what helped me. Dropping excess

weight. No white things and no fried foods. Almost no sugar,

limited carbs expecially grains. I take 100mg regular niacin and

1000mg of no-flush niacin per day. (There is a debate on the no-

flush niacin being helpful but I can't take more than 100mg of

regular niacin at the present because of flushing.)

 

A vegetarian diet made my cholesterol rise to 275, a more traditional

diet with meat, poultry, fish brought the cholesterol to around 230.

With the addition of niacin and the reduction of sugar my cholesterol

fell to 164 with all values within range and this all happened in

less than three months with my diet experiment.

 

Do I believe in the cholesterol theory--not really but I thought I

would see how I could control the cholesterol levels with diet

changes.

 

Leona

 

 

, " K.M.O.S. "

<gothicgeshia wrote:

>

> For the past few months my Doc has had me on one thing or another

for

> high Cholestrol and high blood pressure etc. Also have had a coff

since

> Oct.

>

> I was on 3 diffrent meds at one time. Avacor was one.

>

> My mother also was on this and now she has a fatty liver? If that

> sounds right? Today I received Tricor. I read on there web site it

too

> has side effects.

>

> I have finaly had enough. It's scaring the hell out of me. Im going

> Holistic as of today. If I can't pronounce it, it's not entering my

> body.

>

> Anyone have any helpful suggestions?

>

> k-

>

[Guest guest]

I believe you are right. Our bodies are constantly trying to protect

us, and the cholesterol is lining the veins for our protection

because they are all beat up. Yes we got in this mess with poor

diet, and this may cause problems later if calcium gets mixed in and

it turns to brick!

 

>

> K,

>

> I don't know how much help my thoughts will be to

> you, but your question makes me want to offer my

> opinions about " high cholesterol " . <g>

>

> I have known for years that we all eat with the logic

> of cave men, despite having alternate requirements

> now. For example; sugar was once rare. When one

> encountered it, in fruit or honey or whatever, it was

> quite prudent to consume as much as possible because

> the lack of it might kill you before you came upon

> more. But that is never true for us now.

>

> And it's not just high fructose corn syrup, which is

> literally in almost everything these days - it's all

> sugars. We are programed to eat them. But our

> instincts were formed in a different time, under

> much different circumstances. People lived less

> than half as long then. Just surviving long enough

> to reproduce was a major feat.

>

> Hold that thought.

>

> I have been forming my own theory in regard to

> " high cholesterol " for many years. It bugged me

> that the doctors always want to lower it in every

> body. As though all bodies have now become stupid

> - suddenly they must not know anymore how much

> cholesterol is needed, so our now-stupid bodies

> just make it for no reason? Come on now - that

> just sounded like nonsense to me. It still does.

>

> For years and years I have been convinced that

> cholesterol is in our blood for a reason, a good

> reason, in fact; as a requirement. I used to

> think that maybe it lubricated joints or maybe it

> aided in brain function. Or; maybe it acts as a

> stop-leak for veins and arteries, whatever - it

> must do Something worthwhile. And that something

> must be something that we need. In other words;

> the cholesterol must serve some needed function

> and so the artificial reducing of it is a half-assed

> approach which is essentially treating the Symptom

> of the real problem - not the Problem itself. And

> the problem cannot be the cholesterol - it has to

> be the real problem which our bodies are making the

> cholesterol to combat.

>

> Well, within the last few weeks it came to me: I

> now think that the cholesterol is used by our

> bodies to patch holes and weak spots in our

> arteries and veins. And the reason the arteries

> and veins Need repairing in the first place is

> because of sugar.

>

> As you know; high sugar levels in the blood make

> things in the body go bad. With diabetic people

> everything in their bodies is being damaged - by

> the excess sugar in their blood stream and tissues.

>

> Well, I think that is exactly what happens to people

> with even sub-diabetic high-sugar levels. Just more

> slowly and primarily to the blood vessels at first.

> AND . . . I think that is virtually Everyone in our

> society. We are literally drowning in sugar - it's

> in everything. Besides the obvious soft drinks and

> things you associate with sugars, it's also in

> bread, catsup, sauces, salad dressings, processed

> vegetables, just about everything you eat.

>

> And why is it damaging our blood vessels first?

> Because: where is the high sugar first? All the

> time? In the blood! What is exposed to blood,

> and it's too-high sugar levels, more than

> anything else? The Pipes It Flows Through. <g>

>

> High sugar consumption and blood blood sugar

> levels are killing our arteries first. And we

> are letting, in fact; forcing our bodies to

> let it happen and then not be repaired - by

> artificially reducing cholesterol levels.

>

> The key, the answer, the proper solution to

> the so-called; high cholesterol problem, is to

> drastically lower sugar consumption and blood

> sugar levels. Without the sugar-damaged arteries

> and veins to repair - our cholesterol levels

> would all fall naturally. Our bodies would have

> no need of cholestorol. AND; our blood vessels

> would not be failing!

>

> Of course, it's just my opinion. <g>

>

> stephen

> --------

>

>

> On Jan 26, 2008, at 9:19 PM, masterofmind1969 wrote:

>

> " K.M.O.S. " gothicgeshia@ wrote:

>

> For the past few months my Doc has had me on one

> thing or another for high Cholesterol and high blood

> pressure etc. Also have had a coff since Oct. I

> was on 3 different meds at one time. Avacor was one.

> My mother also was on this and now she has a fatty

> liver? If that sounds right? Today I received

> Tricor. I read on there web site it too has side

> effects.

>

> I have finally had enough. It's scaring the hell

> out of me. Im going Holistic as of today. If I

> can't pronounce it, it's not entering my body.

> Anyone have any helpful suggestions?

>

> k-

> --------

>