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Did the Dr. recommend she have the gall bladder removed? Or is it just full

of big stones and not causing her any problems. I suffered with passing gall

stones from age 19-26, having it out was the best decision I ever made. Passing

the g/s is extremely painful with episodes lasting a few minutes to hours on

end with no relief. It is worse then natural childbirth, and at least you get a

baby out of all of the pain one has endured. I guess my point is, just have

the dang thing taken out. Why suffer through the agony of passing those things?

 

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No way can essential oils help in any way with gallstones. Some

herbs may help a little, but all this stuff about passing them

naturally using various recipies is just quack medicine. Passing

gallstones is utter agony and very dangerous indeed. Even slowly

dissolving them with herbs is fraught with danger and indeed no

proper case studies have been done.

 

After I had my first attack 4 years ago I increased my fluid intake

by taking a crushed half a lemon in a mug of warm water with sugar

once a day. I also cut out fried, roasted and grilled foods and had

no more problems for over two years. Last January I had niggling gut

pain for 4 weeks at night and two episodes of accute pain and

revisited my doctor who said " oh yes gallstones " . Two weeks ago I

had some fancy scans done which revealed a *normal gall bladder*.

Could be the first diagnosis was wrong, or I cleared the stones

unassisted, who knows. One thing is for sure, and that is you can

never be certain the problem is gallstones without having proper

ultra-sound scans done. Doctors make educated guesses all the time

based on symptoms, so the key is proper investigation and then if

gallstones are proven whip the thing out. In my case the problem

seems to be something wrong with the liver not the gall bladder.

 

Martin Watt

http://www.aromamedical.com

 

, " Shimai " <shimai@c...> wrote:

> Hi all,

> I checked the archives and couldn't find anything about this so I

thot I

> would post..

>

> I have a friend whose doctor just told her that she had a gall

bladder

> full of gall stones. She is looking to dissolve/pass them

naturally if

> possible. Does anyone know any help/ remedies/ ideas. Can use

> essential oils or whatever. ANY help would be appreciated by her

and

> myself.

> TIA

>

> Karen J

>

> " Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving

> safely in

> a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,

> thoroughly

> used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -- 'Wow ... what a

> ride!!! "

>

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TIA, there are many good natural remedies and I use many of them. The fastest

way to naturally flush the liver and gallbladder can be found at this website:

http://health.gallstones/

 

I have done about 8 different flushes so far over the last 4 years and am enough

of a veteran that I can say this really works and is NOT a hoax. I will do this

once or twice a year now for the rest of my life. Don't listen to those who tell

you it is a hoax. It works. I do the Hulda Clark liver/ gallstone flush. Even

people with no gallbladder still pass stones from the liver.

 

Diana of Dewberry Hill

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have a friend whose doctor just told her that she had a gall bladder

full of gall stones. She is looking to dissolve/pass them naturally if

possible. Does anyone know any help/ remedies/ ideas. Can use

essential oils or whatever. ANY help would be appreciated by her and

myself.

TIA

 

 

 

 

 

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Not true! I have passed many hard stones painlessly and much cholesterol sludge.

But for those who don't want to check out the gallstone list

http://health.gallstones/

and wish to believe it is quackery...you miss out on a simple remedy! I'm so

glad I know what to do...the doctors don't acknowledge the flush because they

make lots of money on those with problems.

I prefer to do it the easy painless way. And won't argue this issue :-) anymore.

Diana of Dewberry Hill

 

all this stuff about passing them

naturally using various recipies is just quack medicine. Passing

gallstones is utter agony and very dangerous indeed.

 

Martin Watt

 

 

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/28/2004 1:00:17 PM Pacific Standard Time,

aromamedical-2 writes:

 

> I find it it just mind blowing that anyone can claim they have

> passed a gallstone without any pain.

 

MEE TOO!

 

I do have a dicky gallbladder. I've seen the stones meself (ultrasound)... no

I haven't had it removed. I DID have a problem with a stone escaping out of

the GB... lemme tell you, It was BLOODY PAINFUL! I came close to going back and

having my GB " Whipped out " (as Martin so eloquently put it... I think there

is a little bit more to it than just " Whipping " it out.... just a wee bit).

Compare it to child birth, let me think hard on this one.... I'd rather give

birth no pain killers then go through THAT again.

 

It was HORRIBLE. You can't sit, you can't stand, you can't lie down... you

are incapacitated with agony.

 

I THINK I was lucky. It must have been a Itsy-bitsy stone because the pain

DID stop and I haven't experienced anything like that since. Let me re-emphasise

something Martin said, the duct is TEEENY WEENY... You ain't going to get

much in or out of that thing that ain't liquid and once you develop stones...

well, basically you have one of two choices.

 

1. Have it " whipped " out

2. Manage it

 

I've been managing it. For me the big trigger was meals that contained were

too big and of course fatty foods' (Costco's Chicken Bakes- guaranteed to set

off an attack). So I cut back the fat and don't eat too much any more.

 

I still have attacks, they are minor... feels like a major case of the

hungries, but nothing I can't handle...

 

I suspect sometime in the future, I'm not going to have a choice and I'm

going to have to go in and have that sucker " whipped out " . Being a major coward

of

everything medical... I'll wait.

 

And there IS a danger in that as well... but I'll stop here. Let me just

reiterate... Absolutely everything Martin has said on this subject is 100%

correct

and quite frankly, once you've been diagnosed, that little ole putzy GB is a

ticking time bomb.

 

Oh and speaking of misdiagnoses... at one time my GB problem was diagnosed as

being either Lactose intolerance or (forgot the name...) chronic Bowel

Syndrome... some of you who are also on Idma may remember me asking about a long

time ago...

 

So becareful and assume nothing... it CAN be a matter of life and death.

 

K

 

 

Cheers!

Kathleen Petrides

The Woobey Queen

http://www.woobeyworld.com

 

 

 

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All of these so called " gall bladder flush " remedies are based on

poorly documented anecdotal reports. As far as I am aware there has

never been a properly controlled study done on the subject.

 

There are many issues involved:

1. Without careful abdominal ultrasound scans one cannot be certain

if a problem is due to gallstones.

 

2. Without scans before a flush and afterwards one cannot know if

stones were there and if they have passed.

 

3. Many other conditions can mimic the pain caused by gallstones,

some are self correcting others are serious. If someone has been

told they have gallstones and after a quack treatment they no longer

have symptoms of course they believe it is due to the treatment

rather than them not having gallstones in the first place. That is

what most of these reports are based on.

 

4. It is a physical impossibility to get vegetable oils into the

gallbladder. The gallbladder is there to produce bile to emulsify

oils and fats in the gut. Therefore, one cannot possibly " flush it "

by that mechanism. Anyone who says otherwise has not trained on any

kind of reputable complementary medicine course.

 

5. I find it it just mind blowing that anyone can claim they have

passed a gallstone without any pain. When one knows how tiny the

common bile duct is and with that lousy piece of S bend plumbing, it

is just beyond me how a stone can pass along that tube without

someone knowing about it. *In any case, unless someone routinely

sieves their feces how the heck do they know what they have passed?*

 

As a qualified medical herbalist I am well aware of those herbs with

a reputation for dispersing gallstones. However, any herbalist

worthy of that name will tell you such treatments are long term.

Anyone who claims overnight effects is a dangerous quack. Herbs and

diet are great for relieving some symptoms, but to cure the problem

short term-no way.

 

>Even people with no gallbladder still pass stones from the liver.<

Having just had a through scan of my own liver I can tell you there

are no cavities or ducts in it where stones could possibly form.

Anyone who makes such statements clearly knows nothing about

physiology or anatomy.

 

Beware of claims on websites aimed at gathering clients for quack

therapists.

 

Martin Watt

http://www.aromamedical.com

 

, Diana of Dewberry Hill

<cozad76078> wrote:

> Not true! I have passed many hard stones painlessly and much

cholesterol sludge. But for those who don't want to check out the

gallstone list http://health.gallstones/

> and wish to believe it is quackery...you miss out on a simple

remedy! I'm so glad I know what to do...the doctors don't acknowledge

the flush because they make lots of money on those with problems.

> I prefer to do it the easy painless way. And won't argue this

issue :-) anymore.

> Diana of Dewberry Hill

>

> all this stuff about passing them

> naturally using various recipies is just quack medicine. Passing

> gallstones is utter agony and very dangerous indeed.

>

> Martin Watt

>

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http://www.angelhealingcenter.com/GallstonePictures.html

 

I have gotten stones out of all kinds that looked like these. Painlessly. You

will never know unless you try the flush. And they don't get stuck in the ducts

either. Sure beats surgery! You skeptics keep on bein' skeptical.

:-)

Diana of DH

 

 

 

 

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