Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Hey Butch, I should have check all my books...hehe before posting. appreciate your response. Cheryl Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Hey Cheryl, > --- Martin <aromamedical-2 wrote: > >>of the oil in Moroccan traditional medicine) >>Eucalyptus smithii: (safety unknown) Don't get wrapped around the axle on the word " hyped " because it can be used or misused depending on the point one wants to get across. > This one concerns me as many people attest that it is > better on young children and the elderly than E. globus. First .. read the above as " safety unknown " .. not unsafe. Secondly, read Peppermint as " safety unknown " .. it too is not tested .. along with a helluva lotta other oils. Thirdly .. read Martin as merely expressing the position he has taken on oils that have not been PROVEN safe .. and don't misinterpret his words as meaning they are UNSAFE .. it would be unwise to read it that way. > Does anyone know where this originated from? Where what originated? The fact that E. smithii is mild? Probably from the same sources of years and years of empirical observation that we now understand the many fine uses of Peppermint. If those sources were full of bull they were believable enough that zillions of folks believed them long enough to find out for themselves .. and now those beliefs (whether they were correct in the beginning or not) have been codified in the minds of folks who have first hand experience in their use. > Is it from herbal usage or just another aromatherapy myth? The only myth is that an oil that has not been DERMALLY tested because the damn cosmetics industry didn't want to make something from it is not safe .. as I said, if we follow that line of thinking we might as well get the hell out of AT and start buying the poison crap they sell in the drug stores .. we know that most of it is unsafe. None of the Eucalyptus oils are tested .. except Eucalyptus, Blue Gum (Eucalyptus globulus) .. and it is GRAS .. used in the foods and flavor industry. Sylla's manual .. says .. about Eucalyptus smithii .. appears externally non-toxic, non-irritant when diluted .. non sensitizing .. EXTREMELY GENTLE .. best for children and sensitive persons. All Eucalyptus are toxic when taken internally. And it goes on to say .. Untested Oil .. Avoid use on sensitive or damaged skin. Guess what .. that last sentence applies to tested oils too .. it applies to ALL essential oils!! I am not going to be concerned because some EO has not been formally tested when it has been used for a long time. The testing is done by trained knuckleheads using other knuckleheads to see if the tested knuckleheads jump up and down and holler .. they do not follow up on sensitization (probably) cause it could occur years later and the knuckleheads who were tested were probably students who have moved on to other lives in other places. I become weary of hearing the cries of " wolf " all the time. Martin has built his reputation on doing good research and on taking a very hard stand on .. " If it ain't been tested .. it ain't supposed to be used. " I think that's fine cause everybody has to believe in something .. but I ain't buying it all the time! I think its fair that he wants to be true to his modus operandi .. and he has to stick with that MO until the oil is tested. But it does NOT mean that the oil is not safe. If there is ONE PERSON on this list that has ever heard of a problem from Eucalyptus smithii .. please tell us. I am not waiting for anyone to step forward. If we look at the chemical profile of E. smithii we see a.pinene, limonene, b. pinene, myrcene, b. phellandrene, paracymene, 1.8 cineole (high .. like Rosemary), a.terpineol, linalool, geraniol and such .. wanna know how many tested EO have similar profiles .. a helluva bunch of them do. If we isolate some of these chemicals they might cause us problems .. this is true for damn near any chemical found in nature .. but nature is smart and sticks them all together in a manner where they are supportive of each other .. its called a natural synergy .. and Martin has often written that isolating a chemical from the whole oil and extrapolating the good or the bad from it is dumb science .. I agree with him. > TIA, > Cheryl Yep .. and keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com PS: Like I said .. everybody has to believe in something. I believe I am gonna have around 4 fingers of Kahlua on the rocks and then hit the sack early tonight .. its a bit after 1 in the morning here and today was spent dealing with different kinds of gummit knuckleheads .. which also makes we weary. ;-) > ===== > Cheryl Smith > A Heavenly Body > Anchorage AK 99508 > (907) 222-0886 > http://www.aheavenlybody.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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