Rose Geranium

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Hi Virginia,

 

> Hi Everyone,

> Is there such a thing as Rose Geranium essential oil.

 

Yes Virginia .. there is a Santa Claus .. and a Rose Geranium. ;-)

 

Long, long ago .. I wrote a long post on this to this list .. but its in

my other PC which is not operable now .. I'm still in the unpacking part

of my move and there is as much left to do as I have already done.

 

> I was told there is not, but suppliers are selling Rose geranium

> -Pelargonium roseum -.

 

Not surprising. One of the many reasons I look forward to retiring and

getting out of this industry is because there is more misinformation,

disinformation, urban rumor and marketing hype to be found here than in

most any occupation I am aware of .. except maybe politics and counter

intelligence. In those cases folks don't even try too hard to unwrap

the commo wire from around the axle. When I quit I am gonna chase

Largemouth Bass and Beach Bunnies and not worry about the hype. ;-)

 

> Any of the experts care to comment. Many thanks.

>

> Virignia

 

They haven't been born yet .. and when they are, the information we have

today will be obsolete .. so they will have to start from Tabula Rasa.

But I'll tell you what I know. And I'll fall back on but a teeny tiny

tad of what Martin Watt has presented in his fine EO Monograph Series

http://www.av-at.com/monographs.html I will NOT, however, use the info

on Rose Geranium, found in Sylla's AT Practitioner Reference Manual

http://www.av-at.com/manual01.html .. because .. its incorrect. That is

not a knock on the manual .. its a helluva bit of fine work and the best

compilation of data out and about today .. but there are some errors and

those errors are based on erroneous information probably obtained from

so-called experts. If one wants to criticize published works they might

wanna start with two of the finest historical pubs in the world .. the

Holy Bible and the Koran. Many wise scholars have told me that if it

were possible to tweak some of facts in these fine works it would make

life a lot easier for them whut must explain the inconsistencies.

 

There are over 250 Species of Pelargonium in the Geraniaceae Family.

 

Most of the essential oils are extracted from three of these Species;

P. graveolens Heriter (Rose Pelargonium), P. capitatum (Wild Rose

Pelargonium) and P. radens. From these three Species thousands of

Varieties and Cultivars have been developed .. and that development

continues .. it makes work for the botanists and farmers and such.

 

As Martin says, this makes precise botanical naming of oils from the

crops almost meaningless .. but afore y'all get frustrated, this also

applies to DOZENS and DOZENS of other Species and even to some Families

themselves .. what is is because science says it is .. and it will

remain so until they decide to say it ain't! Which they do annually.

 

The way to know what one has is to evaluate the chemical profile .. and

this is what the experts do in ALL cases when they want to know what

kind of Thyme, Rosemary, Oregano, Orange, Grapefruit, Frankincense,

Myrrh and this and that and this and that .. oil is.

 

In the Geraniums we are looking primarily at Geraniol, Citronellol and

Linalool .. but many of the chemical components found in far lesser

percentage .. and even those that are considered as trace chemicals, are

also considered by the experts. In fact, what is and sometimes what

ain't in there .. will often tell them something they wouldn't know if

they had not paid close attention .. they do NOT go by odor alone.

 

Can some of these chemicals be synthetically produced .. you can bet

your bippy on that .. thus the need for an expert to make the call on if

it is or if it ain't. Important to know is the Origin .. comparing the

profiles according to Origin is critical as they are not all the same.

 

Now lemme tell you why I disagree with the info in Sylla's Manual .. in

it is a statement that some Rose Geranium is either Geranium distilled

over Roses .. or Rose Otto mixed with Geranium. Say what? The price

alone shows that to be incorrect. But she also lists P. roseum in the

list of Pelargoniums. Sylla has often said that the many years of work

she put into her manual was worth the effort .. and I agree .. but that

if she had that many more years to work on it there would be a number of

tweeks .. and this is the same case with any reference publication in

existence .. including the Holy Books. Its not the messages we want to

change, its the inconsistencies that're really not true inconsistencies

but are confusing enough to get a novice's knickers in a knot.

 

Martin notes that as early as 1857 Rose Geranium (Pelargonium roseum)

was reported to be used in some circles to adulterate Rose Otto. See

the contradiction? I was also told this by a professor here .. he said

that it was quite common in old times to do this .. but keep in mind

that the majority of the oil produced then (not too different now) was

for the fragrance and food trades.

 

Also keep in mind that the meaning of messages gets lost as they pass

from one person to the next in an unregulated environment .. a good

example is Rosemary, Cinole .. its claimed (and believes by some folks,

even teachers who are too lazy to research the facts or too chicken to

deviate from the common mistaken beliefs in this flaky industry) to be

harmful to those who suffer from Epilepsy .. they should avoid it. The

problem is .. they got the friggin message all wrong .. it was .. for

centuries .. the TREATMENT for Epilepsy. It is NOT harmful!!!!!!

 

Sorta reminds me of the tale about the Head Monk who was missing for a

few days and later they found him in the cellar looking over the hand

written archives that had been copied from originals many centuries

before and copied exactly over and over ever since. He was looking at

an original when they found him, and he was bawling his eyes out. The

young Monks asked him why he was crying .. and the poor feller said,

" Its Celebrate .. they left a letter out when they copied it. " ;-)

 

So, yes Virginia .. there is a Rose Geranium. :-)

 

Y'all keep smiling. Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

 

PS: Many studies and therapeutic uses of Pelargoniums are covered in

Martin's EO Monograph .. good info it is.