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In a message dated 4/13/04 6:22:43 PM Central Daylight Time,

butchbsi writes:

 

 

> ...........gonna run this post by Sevi Kay of CyberCanine .. you know her

> site I

> think .. ........

>

> Yes, i do, she's a great gal. Never thought of asking for her advice. Will

> be looking her info if she posts. I'm only using about a teaspoon in a gallon

> of soap along with Citronella, peppermint, cloves and lavender for

> discouraging tha buggies that wanna hitch a ride on my fur babies. Yours and

His, Deonia

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Hey Deonia,

 

>>making some doggie shampoo for my " fur babies " and i am out of

>>cedarwood

>>

>>>EO, but i have some cedarleaf EO........

>>

>>........Need to tawk botanical names ..

>

> LOL, sorry Butch, should have tried to be more clear. the botanical name for

> the Cedarwood EO is Juniperus Virginiana--red--USA

 

Not a problem .. except its next to impossible to be very accurate with

Common Names .. some EO/Plants have 8-10 Common Names.

 

Juniperus virginiana is Red Cedar .. but its really a Juniper .. its the

closest thing we can get to grandma's cedar chest .. even though its not

really cedar. Its what most pencils are made of .. lining for closets

and such .. gets rid of insects and at low dose is not toxic .. at a

high dilution it MIGHT be an irritant for some folks .. not normally.

 

> BUT, the Cedarleaf EO i have is one i ordered from someone that only put

> " Cedarleaf " on the lable. Can you help at all?

 

I'd give 11 to 2.5 odds that one is Thuja occidentalis .. and I don't

like it .. its an oral toxin .. its HIGH in thujone .. it can cause

convulsions. The only good news is that at low dilution its not an

irritant and its not a known sensitizer. And .. it repels insects.

 

But lemme tell you .. I am not an expert on EOs and dawgs .. so I'm

gonna run this post by Sevi Kay of CyberCanine .. you know her site I

think .. http://www.cybercanine.com she's on this list but might not

be looking now cause she's developing a buncha good products in her

other line .. cosmetics and such .. http://www.sevikay.com

 

> Thanks, Deonia

 

Yes'mam .. welcome you be. :-)

 

Y'all keep smiling. Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

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Hi Sevi,

 

 

> ...I would not use Peppermint, Citronella or Clove EOS on

> canine coat & skin. Now since shampoo is a rinse off product

> technically it is not a major concern -...........-

>

> What I use on my (canine) girl is Lemon Tea Tree, Lavender, Atlas

> Cedarwood mix -- works great on bugs and no bad skin reactions to

> this mix. I have added some Lemon in this mix for my other canine

> pack without allergies as well.

>

> I tend to be a bit cautious when it comes to animals -- there are

> many opinions about EO usage for dogs out there, mine happens to be --

> act with caution, tread with knowledge and do not trust everything I

> read ;-)

>

>

Ba long time since i talked to you. I got this blend out of the Liquid soap

book byCatherine failor: It was " the great outdoors " one and i added the

citronella and peppermint from other blends she had suggested. I don't put a

lot

in , just enough to have a faint odor . I value your opinion and will change my

scent but i'm gonna have a harder time talking my girlfriend into changing.

LOL she loves this shampoo and has been using it on her dogs for about three

years now ,as have i, with no ill effects that i can see. But, given what you

say, i know she , although reluctant, will agree we dont' want to harm our fur

babies in any way.I have some lemon TT and i'll change my formula for scent

using your suggestions. Thanks so much for taking the time to respond to my

question, via Butch. And have a great day!! Love ya, Deonia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Deonia,

 

Personally I would not use Peppermint, Citronella or Clove EOS on

canine coat & skin. Now since shampoo is a rinse off product

technically it is not a major concern -- however I know that for very

sensitive dogs this blend may still cause allergic reactions.

 

I would say it is ok to use the following EOs in minute amounts in

rinse off products on dogs with no known allergies.

 

As for Cedarwood -- I only suggest of using Atlas Cedarwood (Cedrus

atlantica) topically. I do use Juniperus virginiana in my laundry

detergents, diffuser blends, carpet and floor cleaners only.

 

What I use on my (canine) girl is Lemon Tea Tree, Lavender, Atlas

Cedarwood mix -- works great on bugs and no bad skin reactions to

this mix. I have added some Lemon in this mix for my other canine

pack without allergies as well.

 

I tend to be a bit cautious when it comes to animals -- there are

many opinions about EO usage for dogs out there, mine happens to be --

act with caution, tread with knowledge and do not trust everything I

read ;-)

 

HTH,

 

Sevi

 

 

, Deonia2@w... wrote:

> In a message dated 4/13/04 6:22:43 PM Central Daylight Time,

> butchbsi@s... writes:

>

>

> > ...........gonna run this post by Sevi Kay of CyberCanine .. you

know her

> > site I

> > think .. ........

> >

> > Yes, i do, she's a great gal. Never thought of asking for her

advice. Will

> > be looking her info if she posts. I'm only using about a teaspoon

in a gallon

> > of soap along with Citronella, peppermint, cloves and lavender

for

> > discouraging tha buggies that wanna hitch a ride on my fur

babies. Yours and His, Deonia

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Hey there Deonia,

 

> Ba long time since i talked to you.

 

Yes it has been a long time...I am away a lot lately, but Butch finds

me and brings me back to 'reality' often ;)

 

As for the blend -- if your dogs are not allergic in nature, you

should be ok with a light peppermint and clove blend in rinse off

products. I will still suggest using Atlas Cedarwood though...

 

Mundo is known for her sensitive nature and 95% of my customers are

owned by dogs like Mundo, so my suggestions are always around dogs

with allergies.

 

You and your friend seem to be doing ok, so no need to change

anything. Just keep an eye on things time to time and I think you

will be more than ok...

 

E-mail me if you need to chat.

 

Be well,

Sevi :)

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I have a question and please forgive me if this has been addressed before or

part of this thread as I just entered this thread:

 

For people who have allergies to cedar trees in the spring, do they need to be

careful of using the cedar oils?

 

Thanks, Diana of Dewberry Hill

 

 

 

 

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