Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 Welcome back busy Butcher! Glad you ain't dead *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com Butch Owen [butchbsi] Hi y'all, Though it might be disappointing to some folks in the industry, I am still above snakes. I haven't posted in the last ten days (maybe a record?) to a list or even off list to friends .. I've just dealt with orders .. but this post will more than make up for that. The reason I have not posted is because I have been moving and dealing with the humma-humma here .... <snipped> ... Y'all keep smiling. Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 The snakes ain't ready for him yet! They know he still has too much work above ground, afore he's snake food! Glad ya resurfaced ;-) Janet >Welcome back busy Butcher! Glad you ain't dead > >*Smile* >Chris (list mom) Making Light of Scents, Janet Golden-Hogan http://www.GoldenEssence.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Hi y'all, Though it might be disappointing to some folks in the industry, I am still above snakes. I haven't posted in the last ten days (maybe a record?) to a list or even off list to friends .. I've just dealt with orders .. but this post will more than make up for that. The reason I have not posted is because I have been moving and dealing with the humma-humma here that is necessary to accomplish simple things that most Americans take for granted .. like closing/opening utilities. We have no shortage of red tape here in Turkey. Sometimes the system even works .. sometimes we can circumvent it and take the high road. Weekend afore the one just passed was spent destroying 9 + years of documents/files after officially closing out my Turkish company .. and giving away all the furnishings I had to friends because the buyers of used furnishings wanted to give me a dime on the dollar so I told them to go fly a kite .. giving to friends is a better thing to do. I won't go into the details of what is required to close a company here except to say that it is easier and a lot cheaper to give it away. I didn't do that cause I'll no longer run Business Services International so I want to kill it. It was my baby and the reputation it gained in that 9 + years is one I will not allow to be harmed. Same will happen for Appalachian Valley Natural Products .. some day. Though I moved nothing but my desk set and that of my secretary .. with PCs and other commo gear to the new location .. which is my apartment .. it is like cramming a 36 inch waist into 32 trousers. Its happening but its not easy. I had five office suites with accompanying storage/file facilities in an office 5 X the size of my apartment and even after destroying the history of my Turkish company I had to keep a lot of information relating to the American company in Maryland .. and now it looks like we will spend a bit more time on the shredder because storage space is tight here. Am I going to be happier here? Yep! I have a great view .. on a hill overlooking Ankara .. outside my door are 24 hour restaurants, a fish market, a fresh veggie stand, a shoeshine feller, two grocery stores and anything else a person could want .. all within a minute or so walk. Basically .. its a what's happening street. If I feel a need for a break I just leave the PC, move to my living room and grab Tom Clancy or a good American West history novel and cool it for a while. Nice big balconies and my Rosa damascena plants are smiling and leafing out. I will miss my employees .. but I was fortunate enough to find good jobs for each of them .. no way would I have turned them out without income. And last Friday evening they pitched an informal funeral for my Turkish company at my favorite local pub. The weather was nice and we all sat outside whilst burying 9 + years of effort in the most respectful way we could .. as is the Turkish way .. even though this was really not in accordance with any Turkish customs. It was a nice gesture and under such conditions and after a few drinks or so with folks I love even this old soldier can still shed a tear now and then. My Turkish site still functions ... http://www.Bsi-Hq.com To make y'all feel good about some of the things you take for granted in the USA .. and probably some of the things you bitch about on a daily basis cause we American critters can become spoiled due to a system that does work .. here is some of the routine stuff I had to deal with. For the last 7-8 years, monthly utility bills and such have been set up so they can be paid via I-Net or directly to a bank .. good this is as prior to that one had to personally show up at the service provider. But .. closing them and opening them at a new location is not so easy. As my Residence/Work Permit lists my office address .. that is the only location I could have utilities connected to .. unless I get the Permit updated and that takes around two months .. but since I have officially closed my Turkish company, technically that withdraws my authorization for a Residence/Work Permit .. Catch 22 .. maybe. Only the Responsible Manager (as published in the Official Gazette) can close out the old utilities. This is probably a good system and one we could use in the USA .. having one person designated as the one to catch hell if the train jumps the track .. the one whose feet are held to the fire if irregularities occur .. that person was me. And closure must be done in person .. along with a lotta notarized documents proving I am authorized to do this and that. One might think closing out three phone lines, a fax line, PC line and a Cable TV line is easy .. not so! Regardless of what you take to the PTT, they will want something else. " Where is your dawg? " " Didn't bring him. " " Gotta go get him. " Come back with the dawg and its .. " Wrong color that dawg. " So get another one the color the gummit dude wants. " Nope, that dawg is a female .. gotta be a male. " .. and so on. Takes three trips if one is lucky. And none of the service providers are in the same location .. water on one side of town, gas on another, telephone on another, and electric on another. Good it is that taxis are cheap here. And good it is the way I circumvented all the prohibitions on hooking up new services to my apartment .. they are all in my landlord's name .. so if/when I decide to fly I can just fly. Then there is the Muhtar .. the area Block Warden maybe is the best way I can describe it. S/he is supposed to have a record of where every person lives .. and what color their dawg is. Its not a tight system. I have lived in many places in Turkey and never cleared a Muhtar when I left to go to another place. But lately they have begun to require one clear the old Muhtar afore checking in with the new one .. likely it is that this is due to increased security measures brought about by Global Terrorism. To make a long story short .. this I was able to negotiate rather easily .. and good it is cause this can be a real hassle. Now I have to deal with updating my Residence/Work Permit .. or leave the country for 24 hours every 90 days and return on a Tourist Visa. It can be done .. and likely will be done as there is a technical clause in the law that says the Responsible Manager must be available to answer any questions on finance and such .. for one year following the closure of a company .. and another technical clause saying Responsible Managers must be in residence. I will see if there is another technical clause that says I have to get my butt outta here. I have a weapon .. 9MM .. with Turkish gummit permit to carry concealed. Not that I feel a need for it but after 30 years in uniform, the last 20 of that as a Military Cop .. and the fact that there are bad guys out and about .. I want to keep it updated. A cowboy I ain't .. and a lamb I ain't .. never had a desire to martyr myself. It expired 22 March. Tomorrow, I will begin the process of renewal. Gotta go to a gummit shrink (did it 5 years ago) and have a cuppa tea with him .. then he will certify that I am not nuts .. maybe. Last one joked that he might not be able to do that cause an American voluntarily living in Turkey with passport that would let him live in the USA gotta be nuts. But that was tongue in cheek .. most Turks do NOT want to live in the USA. Granted .. there are a heckuva lotta things about life in America that are easier and smoother than here .. but there are a lot of things here that are dear to them .. and to me. Cultural and social they are. I am a conservative feller .. I like the respect accorded to parents and to the elderly here .. and the kindness and hospitality and helpfulness of every Turkish citizen I have ever met .. excluding some who are robots .. are gummit employees. I like their way of life because it is the way I was brought up in Kentucky afore folks in the USA started leaning a bit too far left to suit me .. afore we forgot who and why we were what we were and what being nice to our neighbors was all about. I guess this is a normal price to pay for modernity and there is no doubt that the Turks will pay it in time .. but I believe I will be long under snakes afore that happens. Everybody in Turkey has a rank. Big brother or big sister or uncle or father or grandfather .. or little sister or daughter .. and such. The rank (of course) changes according to the person being addressed .. and according to how close you are to that person. I like this. I think we should think 4-5 times afore insulting an aged person who we should show formal respect for. Disagreeing is normal here .. but Turks have a talent for disagreeing without being disagreeable. I like that too. There are smart alecks here as there are in any country .. but one can go to a pub and know they will not be bothered by them. The management would not tolerate it .. nor would the other customers. Not true for the foreigners though .. take a foreigner away from home and you often have instant asshole .. just add alcohol. Thus, I don't frequent pubs where foreigners hang out. At my age, I am Big Brother or Uncle to most folks and I like that. I like the security here .. for years (while married) my American family roamed about with no concern of being attacked or mugged and such .. it just does not happen .. except there are some purse snatchers operating in the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul .. mostly immigrants from the Balkans and the ex-Soviet Republics. If a person even looks like they are going to bother a woman or child here .. fifteen Turks will be on his butt like ugly on a wart hawg. Turkey is safe .. unless one is specifically targeted by a bad guy .. and that doesn't happen to tourists. I like the geographic location of Turkey. For me, a trip to 20 or so countries costs about as much as it does to fly from Boston to Hotlanta. I like the food here .. Turkey being the crossroads between two worlds, the West and the East .. and the inheritors of the best of what the Ottoman Empire had to offer .. means that the culinary arts are above and beyond what most folks are used to. I like the fresh veggies twelve months a year .. the fresh fish as Turkey is surrounded by seas .. the prices are great and the service in even the smallest cafe is similar to what one would expect in a VIP lounge in Europe or in America. I like the wine, the beer .. Efes Beer .. Turkish for the English word Ephesus .. and the Raki .. a real aromatic treat made by co-distilling grapes and Anise Seed. Lion's Milk its called .. goes down smooth as a baby's butt and after a couple you feel like a lion .. one or two more and you bray like a donkey. The real reason it got the name Lion's Milk is because though its clear, it turns milky when you add water. Similar to Greek Ouzo and Arabic Arak it is. I like the bread and the pastries. World's best bread says EVERY one of the foreigners who have visited here .. baked fresh 24 hours around the clock .. and no preservatives. Pastry shops on every corner .. wanna gain a few kilos just stop off once a week. Martin Watt went mad when he visited here and wanted to stop on every corner. I like the ladies. Hard to find a more exotic and feminine bunch of female critters .. poor or rich, they have a way about them .. a kind of knowledge that they are superior (behavior wise they are) but don't have to show it .. they can control men without letting them know they are being controlled. This is not the case amongst the ignorant peasants of the East and those who have migrated to the cities .. but they are not my running mates. Lemme just say that Turkish women are NOT subservient and this is in GREAT contrast to ANY country in the world with a Moslem population. Turks are Moslem .. but they are NOT Islamic. In fact, due to the fantastic efforts of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk (the father of Turkey) check this out http://www.ataturk.com/index2.html secularism is not just a law on the books .. its a law one does not want to violate as the penalties are great. Proselytizing is outlawed .. Christians, Moslems and Jews live side by side and there are houses of worship for each on the same street. Our last Deputy Prime Minister was a Turkish Jew and two terms before that the Prime Minister was a lady. Ataturk made a big deal out of women's rights .. the world's first female Supreme Court Justice and world's first female commercial airline pilot were Turkish. This was but six years after women got the vote in the US of A .. the 19th Amendment passed in America in 1920 .. this was 144 years after the founding of our Nation. Ataturk adopted a Civil Rights Code for Woman in 1926, three years after creating the Republic of Turkey from the ashes of the Ottoman Empire! I would speculate that close to half the lawyers, doctors and engineers of the younger generation are women. Why? Because they are smarter? Yes! Not more intelligent .. but smarter! They know where the path to success lies so they devote a lot more time to studies than do their male counterparts .. thus, they do better on the placement scores in the annual university entrance exams. These exams are tough .. winning odds are like 15% or so. If you don't make that cut to the free universities your parents can pay your way to a private school .. but that is very costly even by Turkish standards. Education standards here are very high .. similar to those in Europe, but Turkey is technically European. Someone might say .. my description of Turkey as a secular country does not jive with the fact that they now have a moderate Moslem party in government. Well .. lemme say that that's the way democracy works from time to time .. and if I could have voted last time I would have voted for that party. Or .. maybe its better to say that I would have done what others did .. voted AGAINST the other parties. The Turkish Constitution and the Turkish Military are legally and officially the guarantors of secularization, westernization and democratization in Turkey .. it matters not which party is in control. In fact, the system just absorbs whatever party is in control .. and I often say that the system could use a bit of screw tightening. When will I return to the USA? I get asked that 2-3 times a week. The answer now is .. after the US Presidential elections .. maybe. If Hanoi Kerry wins .. I will not return until he is either defeated in a future election .. or is impeached .. or I find it necessary to return to my homeland to fight against Global Terrorism on my own home soil. I hope that day does not come .. but it might. This is not intended to be a political statement and I ask that it not start a thread on politics on this list. But I am asked the question of when I will return often by friends on this list. It is the opinion of but ONE old soldier .. might not be the right answer for you and yours but it is my answer and I now provide that answer to lots of folks who haven't asked yet. I believe strongly in the American system and have done my best to defend it for more years than most can imagine .. in and out of uniform .. but I function according to my personal desires and beliefs. When is the next Rose harvest/distillation? Should kick off around the 15th or so of May .. I will be in the Rose Fields of Isparta then .. as I have been for many, many years. What of prices this year? Nobody knows now .. that will be determined around the first week of June. But we can bet our bootie they will NOT be less than last year. In the last couple of weeks I've received " fishing " inquiries from international companies inquiring on the purchase of large amounts of Rose Otto .. two wanted 50 kilos. Either they think they have found a magician who can pull rabbits out of thin air .. or they are fishing for lower prices by claiming to want large amounts of oil. My reply to them was that it is likely that there are not 50 kilos remaining from the next harvest that have not already been paid for .. and that's a fact. So y'all .. that's where I've been .. and its not over yet. I have been able to handle all orders and all requests for information .. if you have sent me a post that is important and I have not replied .. I have not received it. This is not at all unusual in today's times as the I-Net is in one helluva mess. If you have sent me a post and it was not important .. just a social conversation .. its in the que. Y'all keep smiling. Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Bulk/Wholesale/Retail GC Tested EO, Rose Otto, Tested Hydrosols and other nice things shipped from my store in Friendsville, Maryland. American By Birth ** Southern By The Grace Of God ** Patriot By Choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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