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In a message dated 4/1/2004 6:31:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,

butchbsi writes:

 

> Understand .. so that means that you use NO preservatives in any of your

> skin products .. right? I mean .. you do accept that there is no such

> thing as a natural preservative that is SAFE and EFFECTIVE .. right?

> I'm not starting an argument either .. just making a point that I hope

> someone will disagree with so we can start one. ;-)

>

 

Correct. I use NO preservatives in any of my skin products... NOW. Course I'm

not selling any NOW. And when I WAS selling them, I avoided having to use

preservatives by not using any water based products, such as Rose Hydrosol in

them... which I do NOW... cuz it's for ME and mine.

 

I get your point... but me dearie, I'm going to disappoint you by NOT

starting with ya! I ain't smart enough to keep up wit ya! ;-)

 

Hugs

K

 

Cheers!

Kathleen Petrides

The Woobey Queen

Woobeys: The Loving Touch Therapeutic Pillow

http://www.woobeyworld.com

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/1/2004 6:31:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,

butchbsi writes:

 

> you do accept that there is no such

> thing as a natural preservative that is SAFE and EFFECTIVE .. right?

> I'm not starting an argument either .. just making a point that I hope

> someone will disagree with so we can start one. ;-)

>

 

Hi Butch, What about Vitamin E and Jojoba oil? I thought these two went a

long way to helping preserve skin care products without actually having to add

another preservative.

 

I hope you have a lovely warm day when you get up.

 

 

Merrily Yours,

Merribell

http://www.CandlesbyMerriebell.com

Now pouring under the Waxing Moon

 

 

 

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Merriebell - Vitamin E is an anti-oxidant, which merely serves to prevent oils

from turning rancid, whereas preservatives help prevent germs from growing in a

finished product. Someone else will have to discuss jojoba.

Namaste,

Lynette

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Philadelphia, PA

 

 

 

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Hey Kathleen,

 

I moved my comments to the bottom. Some folks get wrapped around the

axle on top or bottom posting .. I do it my way to make it easier to

understand.

 

> Well... that may be and I respect Martin enormously so I have no doubt it's

> true. Having said THAT, I will just say that I prefer NOT to use absolutes in

> skin products.... safe or not. It's the principal of the thing. If I go to all

> the trouble to make something WITHOUT artificial ingredients, I'm going to

> have that include my oils and I'm not really caring that it's only 1 part per

> million or 600 parts per million. >shrug< But that's just me.

 

Ain't got nuthing to do with respecting Martin or not .. got all to do

with is there something unsafe or not unsafe with using Absolutes .. and

all to do with do we wanna or do we not wanna use'em fer this and that.

 

> Not starting an argument here (or if I am, it's entirely accidental), just

> presenting my point of view.

 

Understand .. so that means that you use NO preservatives in any of your

skin products .. right? I mean .. you do accept that there is no such

thing as a natural preservative that is SAFE and EFFECTIVE .. right?

I'm not starting an argument either .. just making a point that I hope

someone will disagree with so we can start one. ;-)

 

And .. I wanted to disagree with the point that someone made that was

referenced to Mojay .. who I personally think is more opinionated than

he is knowledgeable about safety of absolutes .. not uncommon in the

cottage industry of AT.

 

Finally, I wanna point out again that Hexane is NOT harmful as some have

come to believe due to urban rumor .. its used to make many cooking oils

we find in the home .. and the final solvent used to produce an Absolute

is something we find in every bar .. friggin Grain Alcohol. ;-)

 

And finally-finally .. this post is being sent from my Draft File cause

the damn electricity has been off all night here and I socked it away

while my UPS was still operating .. then went out to the pub cause they

had some lights and I wanted some grain alcohol .. came back and lights

were still off .. sacked out in my chair .. just woke up and they are on

again .. so I'm sending it and then sacking out cause its 0529 in the

morning .. and them that are now waiting for answers to other mail will

have it afore they wake up. ;-)

 

> K

>

> Cheers!

> Kathleen Petrides

> The Woobey Queen

> Woobeys: The Loving Touch Therapeutic Pillow

> http://www.woobeyworld.com

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

 

>>> " Absolutes should not to be used for therapeutic purposes " . IN FACT

>>>several floral absolutes have been extensively tested on humans for

>>>adverse effects and are passed as safe if used in the appropriate

>>>amounts. Several absolutes are permitted food additives under EEC, FDA &

>>>WHO regulations. Solvent residues are subject to International

>>>regulations, and these levels are only a few parts per million if for

>>>food use. Therefore, the use on the skin in aromatherapy is perfectly

>>>safe, provided the maximum levels recommended by RIFM are not exceeded.

>>>As absolutes are cold processed, they represent the perfume found in

>>>the living plant much more closely than the equivalent distilled

>>>essential oil. "

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