Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Butch wrote, amongst other things, :-) Knowing all that is nice .. but doesn't give me a lot of flexibility in establishing prices because there's something else called competition. I gotta bounce my pricing/profit against rent, insurance, utilities and maintenance, supplies, and labor costs of my employees .. and then hope there is something left over after all those deductions. Thanks Butch ! I have a lot to think about now, LOL Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Thanks Butch, cute joke on the end, lol I figured out the cost of one of my products, for arguments sake lets say its $5, for me to make it and package it. I have someone who owns a small shop, and wants to buy from me wholesale. What kind of mark-up do i do? Anyone have any suggestions? Signed blonde and confused, LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Double your cost for wholesale...double that for you to sell it yourself. For the cost you used ($5), then double that..$10 wholesale...doubled to $20 for your retail cost. That is what I " try " to do...though Sometimes, depending on the market, it can't be done. But just remember that the person buying from you wholesale, will probably double their cost( what they paid you for it) and sell for that price. Is this clear, or clear as mud? HTH Anita in TX for arguments sake lets say its $5, for me to make it and package it. I have someone who owns a small shop, and wants to buy from me wholesale. What kind of mark-up do i do? Anyone have any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 This is great thanks... I have a meeting scheduled for thursday morning, and I need to be prepared, It was a last minute thing..LOL Carol - Anita Reeves Monday, March 08, 2004 5:25 PM Re: Calculating Costs ** Is there such a thing? Double your cost for wholesale...double that for you to sell it yourself. For the cost you used ($5), then double that..$10 wholesale...doubled to $20 for your retail cost. That is what I " try " to do...though Sometimes, depending on the market, it can't be done. But just remember that the person buying from you wholesale, will probably double their cost( what they paid you for it) and sell for that price. Is this clear, or clear as mud? HTH Anita in TX for arguments sake lets say its $5, for me to make it and package it. I have someone who owns a small shop, and wants to buy from me wholesale. What kind of mark-up do i do? Anyone have any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Yo Carol, > > Butch wrote, amongst other things, :-) > > > > Knowing all that is nice .. but doesn't give me a lot of flexibility in > > establishing prices because there's something else called competition. > > I gotta bounce my pricing/profit against rent, insurance, utilities and > > maintenance, supplies, and labor costs of my employees .. and then hope > > there is something left over after all those deductions. > > Thanks Butch ! > I have a lot to think about now, LOL > Carol Welcome fer'shur .. but lemme give you two more tips. IF you are going to pay attention to that monster called competition .. you are gonna find, from time to time, some folks selling at a price you should just disregard .. they're selling for less than the cost of production. If you want to be in the fair market range you must sell as small a size as you can .. the larger the size .. the lower the profit margin. Its real hard to make 2% on a kilo .. or 4% on a pound .. and such a low profit margin will wear you out. You can do better on 5 ml - 10 ml. If you want to make more than 2% - 4% on pounds and kilos .. plan on sinking a HELLUVA LOTTA MONEY into oils .. meaning .. buy the barrel so you can get a decent price per pound. Its possible to turn over 20 K a month in oils and still make less than one could make working full time in McDonalds .. I BS you not. It all depends on the overhead. Sometimes folks can make more profit operating on a very small scale .. more than they can if they grow large. There are no magic answers in this industry. Its just a big three ring circus with lots of wild beasts ready to pounce on the unwary .. and the main attraction is the clowns. ;-) Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com PS: Reminds me of the old farmer who was telling his accountant that he lost $10,000 operating last year. His accountant told him he couldn't stay in the business long at that rate. Old farmer said, " Heck son, I got a good 5 years left .. a fool I'm not, got me $50,000 stashed. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Carol, Dan Thompson (search " Thompson Studios " ) has several spreadsheets for people in the soap & craft industry. I haven't personally used his cost calculator, but it's only $10! He offers the recipe converter free & has other programs available. One that I remember is a craft show cost/profit tracker. Hope this will be of some help to you. Hugs, Pat A few years ago, I did a calculator in Excel for finding the right size mold for your recipe or the right size recipe for your mold, including the dimensions of each bar. It was fun to make and a big help to me because I was using cardboard boxes for molds! (still do) I lost the calculator when our computer crashed and just haven't sat down to do it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 This is great...I will check it out Thanks. Carol - Pat Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:04 AM Re: Calculating Costs ** Is there such a thing? Carol, Dan Thompson (search " Thompson Studios " ) has several spreadsheets for people in the soap & craft industry. I haven't personally used his cost calculator, but it's only $10! He offers the recipe converter free & has other programs available. One that I remember is a craft show cost/profit tracker. Hope this will be of some help to you. Hugs, Pat A few years ago, I did a calculator in Excel for finding the right size mold for your recipe or the right size recipe for your mold, including the dimensions of each bar. It was fun to make and a big help to me because I was using cardboard boxes for molds! (still do) I lost the calculator when our computer crashed and just haven't sat down to do it again. Step By Step Instructions On Making Rose Petal Preserves: http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html To adjust your group settings (i.e. go no mail) see the following link: /join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Hi, I just had a look and this program is amazing. Exactly what I need. Thanks Again. Carol - Pat Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:04 AM Re: Calculating Costs ** Is there such a thing? Carol, Dan Thompson (search " Thompson Studios " ) has several spreadsheets for people in the soap & craft industry. I haven't personally used his cost calculator, but it's only $10! He offers the recipe converter free & has other programs available. One that I remember is a craft show cost/profit tracker. Hope this will be of some help to you. Hugs, Pat A few years ago, I did a calculator in Excel for finding the right size mold for your recipe or the right size recipe for your mold, including the dimensions of each bar. It was fun to make and a big help to me because I was using cardboard boxes for molds! (still do) I lost the calculator when our computer crashed and just haven't sat down to do it again. Step By Step Instructions On Making Rose Petal Preserves: http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html To adjust your group settings (i.e. go no mail) see the following link: /join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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