Guest guest Posted March 4, 2004 Report Share Posted March 4, 2004 As I'm not going to bore you with an ad today (I have no specials, no auctions - Nothing.), I've decided to come to you with a quandry - a dilema if you will. My daughter, The ten year old troll who lives in our house, is having difficulties at school. In fact this year she is doing so poorly that she will prolly fail to pass this grade. Although if you prefer the political correct crap language... she will be " retained " . Tomorrow I will be going to the school and listening to her teachers list all the ways in which she is not measuring up. I will get to hear a couple of detailed speeches about how she and I are not doing enough to ensure her success and that because of all this, despite the fact that she is a very intelligent child, she is a failure. Now. I've been listening to this crap since she was in pre-school in England. There they just called her stupid (not to her face) and that was it. Now a-days she's just a failure. She's " immature " , " lazy " , " stubborn " " willful " " arrogant " " bad attitude " the whole shebang. I'm not going to deny any of it either. She is. However I don't think that right now she is suited to the school system... which is NOT to say that I'm suited to be a homeschooler... Which leads me to the idea that I have been trying to avoid for years, homeschooling. Now my daughter and I are BOTH Trolls. We have similar personalities and we " don't get on " very cozily. I am also extremely busy with the little boy, a full time college career, and a business (that is not posting an ad this week as I'm fed up trying to come up with new ideas). Is it practical to think of home schooling this little troll of mine. Is it worth her time and mine and the agony that is sure to be involved? Would homeschooling for a year and a third give her the time to catch up and develop? >sigh< It is a quandry. Opinions would be appreciated from just about everyone except two people that I can think of... if I hear from that one and the same person... well, Im in the mood to tangle, so.. g'head. Anyway, there you have it. Would love to hear what you have to say on this subject. Cheers! Kathleen Petrides The Woobey Queen Woobeys: The Loving Touch Therapeutic Pillow http://www.woobeyworld.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Kathleen, I'm not sure I'm even qualified to even answer but I think calling her a failure at 10 is a little extreme. She has time to catch up if she applies herself. If you don't feel that your personalities will benefit your trying to home school her yourself how about a private teacher. I know it is expensive but it might be worth it in the long run. Just a thought. MAKE A HAPPY MEMORY EVERY DAY: Evelyn Alternasense Skin Design Products www.alternasense.com<http://www.alternasense.com/> - WoobeyQueen<WoobeyQueen < > Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:05 PM Is homeschooling REALLY an option?/OT As I'm not going to bore you with an ad today (I have no specials, no auctions - Nothing.), I've decided to come to you with a quandry - a dilema if you will. My daughter, The ten year old troll who lives in our house, is having difficulties at school. In fact this year she is doing so poorly that she will prolly fail to pass this grade. Although if you prefer the political correct crap language... she will be " retained " . Tomorrow I will be going to the school and listening to her teachers list all the ways in which she is not measuring up. I will get to hear a couple of detailed speeches about how she and I are not doing enough to ensure her success and that because of all this, despite the fact that she is a very intelligent child, she is a failure. Now. I've been listening to this crap since she was in pre-school in England. There they just called her stupid (not to her face) and that was it. Now a-days she's just a failure. She's " immature " , " lazy " , " stubborn " " willful " " arrogant " " bad attitude " the whole shebang. I'm not going to deny any of it either. She is. However I don't think that right now she is suited to the school system... which is NOT to say that I'm suited to be a homeschooler... Which leads me to the idea that I have been trying to avoid for years, homeschooling. Now my daughter and I are BOTH Trolls. We have similar personalities and we " don't get on " very cozily. I am also extremely busy with the little boy, a full time college career, and a business (that is not posting an ad this week as I'm fed up trying to come up with new ideas). Is it practical to think of home schooling this little troll of mine. Is it worth her time and mine and the agony that is sure to be involved? Would homeschooling for a year and a third give her the time to catch up and develop? >sigh< It is a quandry. Opinions would be appreciated from just about everyone except two people that I can think of... if I hear from that one and the same person... well, Im in the mood to tangle, so.. g'head. Anyway, there you have it. Would love to hear what you have to say on this subject. Cheers! Kathleen Petrides The Woobey Queen Woobeys: The Loving Touch Therapeutic Pillow http://www.woobeyworld.com<http://www.woobeyworld.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Ah Kathleen; I know what you are experiencing. I have sat through too many parent-teacher conferences listening to how my child is not " working to his potential - doesn't stay on task - immature - blah, blah, blah " It is very draining to the parent and the child to feel that they are " unsuccessful " ...and I think a large part of the problem is that certain children just don't do well in that classic, school/factory environment. Like your child, my son was (is) very intelligent - he just didn't fit in (Okay, he has too much Irish smartass rebel in him for his own good (where did he get that from I wonder? :-) Besides home teaching, you might want to check out alternative schools. My son went to one for a year, had class for half-day, worked on a computer at his own speed, and really did well. It enabled him to return to High School and graduate with honors for his senior year. Hang in there - it does get better. I promise. Blessings, Doreen - WoobeyQueen Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:24 PM Is homeschooling REALLY an option?/OT As I'm not going to bore you with an ad today (I have no specials, no auctions - Nothing.), I've decided to come to you with a quandry - a dilema if you will. My daughter, The ten year old troll who lives in our house, is having difficulties at school. In fact this year she is doing so poorly that she will prolly fail to pass this grade. Although if you prefer the political correct crap language... she will be " retained " . Tomorrow I will be going to the school and listening to her teachers list all the ways in which she is not measuring up. I will get to hear a couple of detailed speeches about how she and I are not doing enough to ensure her success and that because of all this, despite the fact that she is a very intelligent child, she is a failure. Now. I've been listening to this crap since she was in pre-school in England. There they just called her stupid (not to her face) and that was it. Now a-days she's just a failure. She's " immature " , " lazy " , " stubborn " " willful " " arrogant " " bad attitude " the whole shebang. I'm not going to deny any of it either. She is. However I don't think that right now she is suited to the school system... which is NOT to say that I'm suited to be a homeschooler... Which leads me to the idea that I have been trying to avoid for years, homeschooling. Now my daughter and I are BOTH Trolls. We have similar personalities and we " don't get on " very cozily. I am also extremely busy with the little boy, a full time college career, and a business (that is not posting an ad this week as I'm fed up trying to come up with new ideas). Is it practical to think of home schooling this little troll of mine. Is it worth her time and mine and the agony that is sure to be involved? Would homeschooling for a year and a third give her the time to catch up and develop? >sigh< It is a quandry. Opinions would be appreciated from just about everyone except two people that I can think of... if I hear from that one and the same person... well, Im in the mood to tangle, so.. g'head. Anyway, there you have it. Would love to hear what you have to say on this subject. Cheers! Kathleen Petrides The Woobey Queen Woobeys: The Loving Touch Therapeutic Pillow http://www.woobeyworld.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 My 10 year old is in the same situation. We tried tutoring 3 times a week and I gave her extra homework. Like your daughter, she is very inteligent, she just doesn't grasp the info, the say it's a communication problem, between her eyes and her brain. The government and Sick kids hospital both say she is about a grade and a half behind. She has had her hearing and eyes tested. She sees a social worker as well as the doctor at sick kids at least twice a year. The social worker helps with the teasing from other students at school. My reaction was to talk to the kids myself, but they won't let me. On Mondays, Linda ( my kid) stays after school for an extra half hour and gets one on one time with her teacher, which is great. She also gets teased in gym class, because she's as limber as a 2 by 4. I thought of home schooling, I almost did it, but she gives up too easily or just won't concentrate, and I get VERY flustered with her..so she stays in school. I wish I had words of wisdom for you, I just wanted you to know that you aint alone with this. P.S. I'm a terrible mother, if she has a subject that I know she will never ever use, then I don't push her to understand it, I focus on the math and English. really, when was the last time that you asked someone to pass you the rectangular prism tissue container. PLEASE! Hang in there, I have been told by many many people that one day it all just clicks, and they seem to get everything... Carol - WoobeyQueen Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:05 PM Is homeschooling REALLY an option?/OT As I'm not going to bore you with an ad today (I have no specials, no auctions - Nothing.), I've decided to come to you with a quandry - a dilema if you will. My daughter, The ten year old troll who lives in our house, is having difficulties at school. In fact this year she is doing so poorly that she will prolly fail to pass this grade. Although if you prefer the political correct crap language... she will be " retained " . Tomorrow I will be going to the school and listening to her teachers list all the ways in which she is not measuring up. I will get to hear a couple of detailed speeches about how she and I are not doing enough to ensure her success and that because of all this, despite the fact that she is a very intelligent child, she is a failure. Now. I've been listening to this crap since she was in pre-school in England. There they just called her stupid (not to her face) and that was it. Now a-days she's just a failure. She's " immature " , " lazy " , " stubborn " " willful " " arrogant " " bad attitude " the whole shebang. I'm not going to deny any of it either. She is. However I don't think that right now she is suited to the school system... which is NOT to say that I'm suited to be a homeschooler... Which leads me to the idea that I have been trying to avoid for years, homeschooling. Now my daughter and I are BOTH Trolls. We have similar personalities and we " don't get on " very cozily. I am also extremely busy with the little boy, a full time college career, and a business (that is not posting an ad this week as I'm fed up trying to come up with new ideas). Is it practical to think of home schooling this little troll of mine. Is it worth her time and mine and the agony that is sure to be involved? Would homeschooling for a year and a third give her the time to catch up and develop? >sigh< It is a quandry. Opinions would be appreciated from just about everyone except two people that I can think of... if I hear from that one and the same person... well, Im in the mood to tangle, so.. g'head. Anyway, there you have it. Would love to hear what you have to say on this subject. Cheers! Kathleen Petrides The Woobey Queen Woobeys: The Loving Touch Therapeutic Pillow http://www.woobeyworld.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Kathleen...while I did not homeschool my two boy trolls....and so probably don't have any right at all to voice an opinion...I just felt compelled to put 2cents in anyway.... I moderate a ladies group where many of the ladies homeschool - and the various input from them is outstanding...many of them in the beginning felt exactly like you do now... and the outcome was short of miraculous..... and a bonding between the parent/child that they was just so unexpected as to be overwhelming. Another thing I would like you to ponder on...with a cup of tea and a goodie.....think about this...nothing...absolutely nothing is coincedental......so if you are even thinking about homeschooling...then there must be some depth and reason to it - there must be a reason....so I would humbly suggest joining a few homeschool newsgroups....maybe visiting some homeschoolers in your area...and just ... well...see what happens... it it works out that way..I bet you and your daugher will have the most wonderful of experiences! Blessings, Pam E Web Express - Web Design & Hosting http://www.ewebexpress.com TLC Naturally - Essential Oils & Home Made Goodies http://www.tlcnaturally.com - WoobeyQueen Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:05 PM Is homeschooling REALLY an option?/OT As I'm not going to bore you with an ad today (I have no specials, no auctions - Nothing.), I've decided to come to you with a quandry - a dilema if you will. My daughter, The ten year old troll who lives in our house, is having difficulties at school. In fact this year she is doing so poorly that she will prolly fail to pass this grade. Although if you prefer the political correct crap language... she will be " retained " . Tomorrow I will be going to the school and listening to her teachers list all the ways in which she is not measuring up. I will get to hear a couple of detailed speeches about how she and I are not doing enough to ensure her success and that because of all this, despite the fact that she is a very intelligent child, she is a failure. Now. I've been listening to this crap since she was in pre-school in England. There they just called her stupid (not to her face) and that was it. Now a-days she's just a failure. She's " immature " , " lazy " , " stubborn " " willful " " arrogant " " bad attitude " the whole shebang. I'm not going to deny any of it either. She is. However I don't think that right now she is suited to the school system... which is NOT to say that I'm suited to be a homeschooler... Which leads me to the idea that I have been trying to avoid for years, homeschooling. Now my daughter and I are BOTH Trolls. We have similar personalities and we " don't get on " very cozily. I am also extremely busy with the little boy, a full time college career, and a business (that is not posting an ad this week as I'm fed up trying to come up with new ideas). Is it practical to think of home schooling this little troll of mine. Is it worth her time and mine and the agony that is sure to be involved? Would homeschooling for a year and a third give her the time to catch up and develop? >sigh< It is a quandry. Opinions would be appreciated from just about everyone except two people that I can think of... if I hear from that one and the same person... well, Im in the mood to tangle, so.. g'head. Anyway, there you have it. Would love to hear what you have to say on this subject. Cheers! Kathleen Petrides The Woobey Queen Woobeys: The Loving Touch Therapeutic Pillow http://www.woobeyworld.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Kathleen, How did my daughter get into your house????? Yes, I've homeschooled one of these. Let me ask you a question.... We may need to go " off-list " if this gets too long.... Is your daughter right or left dominant? (eye,ear,hand,foot). No, I'm not crazy. This goes back to the 70's " crawl before you walk " theory from Doman & Delicato. Anyway, homeschooling this type of child is not easy, but is possible. YES, you can make a difference, but you will need to do some research to determine how she learns, and you I can tell you how to test her dominance if you are interested. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Kathleen, Actually I've missed a TON of posts while I was sick, so if you want, then just e-mail me privately so I won't miss your post. Thanks, Pat- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 > > Hang in there, I have been told by many many people that one day it all just clicks, and they seem to get everything... > > Carol Ya know, Carol, sometimes it doesn't click and the don't " get " everything, but like you say who needs a rectangular prism or the square root of something in normal every day life? Kids can be a success in life even if not in school. Society today, is too quick to LABEL children. The ones who dont fit the cookie cutter must be labeled. Whoever had the idea about a private school or private teacher might work. Since you are both hardheaded (Kathryn) you would have to sign a statement promising not to kill your daughter. (hee hee) My daughter was 10 when I took her out of school for the exact same reasons you are saying. She homeschooled & was on a program to help the brain function more efficiently. We didnt finish the program because I was not organized enough to keep her on it. However, I've seen it work with children whose mothers were more dedicated or organized or whatever it takes. My daughter is doing what she loves now, which is working with horses, teaching lessons to young children & even a doctor. She trains horses & helps with showing also. No, she can't spell worth a flying flip but she has a computer with spellcheck. I think we need to give kids room to be who they are. OK, I lied, I said I was stepping down off my soapbox but I got back on. I'm done for now. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Hey Kathleen, Cant't help myself, just have to pipe in here, even though I live on the other side of the pond. I must confess, when reading your post it get's me to wonder what kind of develish schoolsystem do youhave over there? My youngest John, 5y, is in daycare and Sam (8 in june) is in 1st grade. Both have been in the daycare system since they was 15months old and I have never ever had any evaluation discussions either in daycare or in school, where the focus have been on what they are not to good at. Here it's quite the oposite, teachers focus on the childrens better abilities and then talk about what one can do to lift the lesser (always very few) parts. I can't imgaine one of my boys teachers ever telleing them that they are stupid, not managing to live up to their limits, or anthing negative at all. The worst thing I ever got to hear, is that John was very " diffucult " when he was younger and a handful to take care of - and he certainly was LOL. In my humble ?? opinion, there is no way in hell, you are going to get a child to even try to achieve anything, if you tell them that they aren't good enough, stupid, lazy, stubborn or anything negative at all. Of course, you can tell them of in the heat of the moment, but never ever push it down their throats. Horrible, that what I think that way of treating children is. Oldfashioned, unhuman, undignified - absolutely horrible. Katleeen, if anyone treated my child or myself, the way they have been treating you and your daughter in school, I would take her out of there in a flash. I would be gone so fast they didn't know what hit them and then take it to the media. But then again, maybee the way things work is very different over there?? But in my wildest imagination, I can't believe that you (or anyone else on this list) would think it was OK to treat a child that way. With your busy life as it is, I don't think homeschooling is really the greatest option at all. Me thinks you would suffer from guilty concience too much, not being able to give everyone what they need to the full. I think the advice to seek alterantive schools, is the very best. Here there is a whole bunch of them with differents teaching methods as the base - Montesori, Reggio Emilia and lot's of others. My advice is that you and your daughter start to look up all the alternative schools that exists in our area and go check them out in person, plus get references from parents and children in the schools you get most interested in. Good education and the drive to learn should be inhanced early on, that is my firm beleif. Bad and stupid teachers, with a very narrow point of view, do more bad than good in the long run and trust me - can destroy a persons self esteem for a very long time in adult life. Hope this long post helped you out in any small ways. Hugs and Fragrant Blessings, Ylva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Hey Kathleen, Your daughter sounds a lot like my stepson (12), except that he has dyslexia. I'm not going to kid you, homeschooling can be tough (on both of you). We made the decision to homeschool when stepson came to live with us about 17 months or so ago because the school he would have gone to was not a good one. And this was before he was diagnosed as dyslexic. After a year of struggling to get somewhere with homeschooling, we now have him with a private tutor. He goes 3 days a week, and has enough assignments to keep him busy on the days he doesn't go. We still have some issues (his attitudes stink), but he's made more progress the past few months than he did the previous year. Homeschooling offers a lot of flexibility in your child's education, and it can be very rewarding and enriching for her. BUT a lot depends on her attitudes. If her attitudes (especially about education and schoolwork/assignments) stink, then it can quickly become a very frustrating experience for you both. My advice is to check into your state's laws regarding homeschooling, and see what you options are. You're going to have to decide if you can handle being both teacher and mom. It can take up quite a bit of time in preparing lessons. You're pretty busy as it is. Can you handle another load? If a private tutor, private school, or alternative school is a viable option for you, check into it and give it some consideration. There's resources available online, including various support groups ( has a number of homeschooling lists). Paris has given some excellent advice and resources. And I agree with her in only you and your daughter can decide what is best for her. Her current school and teachers can't. Good luck! Carol Dragon's Pearls http://www.dragonspearls.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Kathleen - You've got to read 'Dumbing Us Down' by John Gatto. A thing about homeschooling...you will not be totally alone in this (the two of you) unless you choose to be. There are many families choosing homeschooling today and you can join up with them. Some adults have a talent for science, math, etc. and they will swap lesson time. Bring your kid to their home along w/ a few others to share a lesson once a week and you will also share community in the bargain. Try hooking up with some home school groups on for a bit and get a feel for what the environment is like. I have several friends who homeschool and if things continue with our kids (who happen to be 'good' read 'well-trained') in the public school system we will be heading that way ourselves. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Which is exactly what homeschooling does and what Gatto is saying. Basically, let your kids be themselves and what they do in society and for themselves isn't about being the head of a company or making tons of money. We've purposely created a society that feeds a huge machine that spits out stuff that we really don't need. A thousand McDonald's require a lot of 'dumbed' down kids for example. Flipping burgers isn't a bad experience for a kid??? Whatever happened to a kid apprenticing with someone who had a real skill to teach. It's no wonder we do very little to be a self sustaining people anymore. I say stay on your soapbox Pat! And you're right, whoever said there must be a reason why the thought even came up for you Kathleen..... (((Kathleen))) Dale - Pat My daughter is doing what she loves now, which is working with horses, teaching lessons to young children & even a doctor. She trains horses & helps with showing also. No, she can't spell worth a flying flip but she has a computer with spellcheck. I think we need to give kids room to be who they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Kathleen. As much as I don't wish your situation on anybody, I am comforted to hear another person is going threw the same thing I am. For me it has just started. My daughter is (Mattie) 3 and in her first year of preschool. As a whole she is usually behind others her age with everything. She is much smaller, weighs less, talked late, ect. In preschool this year I was excited that she was keeping up. Counting, shapes, alphabet, she is up to date on it all. So when I got her evaluation 2 weeks ago I was shocked that although Mattie has learned all the information, they want to hold her back for her behavior skills. 1# She doesn't listen. I felt as if I had been sucked back in time to my own childhood. Where my mother was told over and over I wasn't reaching my full potential. I barely graduated high school, yet my SATS were way above average. Same problem, I didn't listen. I have to decide now in the next week if I should hold Mattie back or not, (they have left it up to me). I don't see how a extra year of preschool will teach Mattie to listen better, when she might never learn that skill. The thing that freaked me out the most about my situation is that when I talked to the teacher I asked about what Mattie would be expected to do next year in school that she didn't think Mattie was ready for. She said that it is much more academic and gets them ready for Kindergarten. Then she listed off everything they are expected to know for Kindergarten and I was shocked. They are teaching skills in K that I was expected to know until first and second grade and I am only 28, so it wasn't forever ago. I wonder if we are expecting too much out of our children too young. Burning them out before they hit high-school. I am already apart of 2 home schooling groups on the internet, if I wasn't a single mom, I would be putting Mattie out and teaching her at home. Lately I have been thinking if I can do this, and still make a living. I don't want Mattie to go threw what I did as a child. I don't want her to believe that she isn't " smart " just because she doesn't keep up. Her art is amazing for a 3 year old (her dad is a professional artist), her imagination blows me away. To me she is more creative than academic. SO does that mean she is " behind " ?? I don't think so. Please keep us up on your decision, (even in private email if you wish) I would love to know what you end up doing. If you want more information on home schooling (or unschooling, which is what I would like to do) just ask, I could ask the home schooling groups I am apart of for information. I wish you luck. -Trin , WoobeyQueen@a... wrote: > Tomorrow I will be going to the school and listening to her > teachers list all the ways in which she is not measuring up. I > will get to hear a couple of detailed speeches about how she > and I are not doing enough to ensure her success and that > because of all this, despite the fact that she is a very intelligent > child, she is a failure. > Kathleen Petrides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Trinity, Many of the kids with " listening " problems are extremely artistic AND extremely intelligent. They just have a different learning style. Have you considered the option of finding another homeschooling family that would take on one more child? If not, it really wouldnt hurt her to stay back in Preschool or pre-K, because it would just give her a bit more time to mature before being pressured with the academics. Just my opinion Pat - Her art is amazing for a 3 year old > -Trin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Trinity, Many of the kids with " listening " problems are extremely artistic AND extremely intelligent. They just have a different learning style. Have you considered the option of finding another homeschooling family that would take on one more child? If not, it really wouldnt hurt her to stay back in Preschool or pre-K, because it would just give her a bit more time to mature before being pressured with the academics. Just my opinion Pat - Her art is amazing for a 3 year old > -Trin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Oh, one more thing.... my oldest son has 4 kids six yrs old & under, and his wife is homeschooling the older 2. The girl is extremely right brained (artistic, happy, has trouble spelling and it doesnt bother her at all), the boy is extremely left brained (very organized (lines up his hot wheels, cars, etc), pensive and better than his sister at academics although he is almost a year younger.) Again, kids are different. Let them be who they are, and let them learn in the style they flourish in (when possible) Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 > Again, > kids are different. Let them be who they are, > and let them learn in > the style they flourish in (when possible) > > Pat< Which the public school system can not deal with. They have too many children in each class to figure each child's style. Children should be where there is plenty of encouragement. I always told mine they could do anything in the world that they wanted as long as they tried and it wasn't illegal. Sure there are some kids that try and try and try and still can not do something or other that they really want to but they should not be belittled because of it. The teachers in the public school system can say all they want to, that they know a child is not listening, is not trying and therefore is/can not reach their actual potential, but the thing is - they don't know how hard the child is working outside school to just make it through. It is a shame that we have to support with our taxes a school system that obviously does not work and where the instructors are allowed to belittle children. It is not only a shame but in my opinion it is a crime. Oh well, that is enough...I am off my soap box. And this is just my opinion and not a knock down on anyone else's opinion. Cheryl Cheryl ===== Cheryl Smith A Heavenly Body Anchorage AK 99508 (907) 222-0886 http://www.aheavenlybody.com Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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