RE: Interesting story on pain -- and our beliefs

[Guest guest]

I wonder how much money they got in a grant to come to these findings,

which no doubt are interesting, but also are well known for centuries.

The placebo effect and its concept are nothing new.

 

Shamans and Witch Doctors and Voodoo Practitioners and old backwoods

Country Doctors

who learned via apprenticeship and all manner of so-called uneducated,

backward, but effective healers have known forever that healing was

healing regardless of how it occurred ... and getting the patient to

believe that the medicine or the dance or the smoke and feathers was

going to heal them was often enough to do the job.

 

But now folks get hundreds of thousands of dollars in grants to prove

what ancient man knew was a fact

to begin with ... and the biggest placebo around is the one that we are

all mesmerized by ... that of the contemporary medical establishment

 

And then the empathy study ... is it a surprise that people have empathy

for others in pain - especially women? *lol*

 

Ahhh, I wonder what will they do next with grant money - then again, I

have an uncle who got a grant to make " Calcium Enriched Pringles "

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

 

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

 

 

 

 

Anya [mccoy]

 

 

WASHINGTON - Just thinking a medicine will make you feel better actually

may -- even if it's fake, according to new research examining the

placebo

effect.

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[Guest guest]

At 10:28 AM 2/20/2004 -0600, you wrote:

 

>But now folks get hundreds of thousands of dollars in grants to prove

>what ancient man knew was a fact

>to begin with ... and the biggest placebo around is the one that we are

>all mesmerized by ... that of the contemporary medical establishment

 

It's all so funny, as you point out, Chris...what we knew all along.

 

>And then the empathy study ... is it a surprise that people have empathy

>for others in pain - especially women? *lol*

 

This is a point I zoomed in on, and cracked up about, too.

 

>Ahhh, I wonder what will they do next with grant money - then again, I

>have an uncle who got a grant to make " Calcium Enriched Pringles "

 

anybody who promotes the use of calcium should be shot, IMO, relative to

you, or not :-P Excess calcium, aka free calcium, in the body, is more

responsible for heart disease than cholesterol. All those poor women

popping 1000mg+calcium tabs per day as per their ignorant MD's advice are

just contributing to heart disease.

 

Diseases made or worsened by excess calcium? Heart, arthritis, kidney,

etc., etc. Everything in moderation, folks, including the wrongly-touted

'natural' stuff like calcium...and vitex.. couldn't resist.

 

Here's a link to a google quickie search i did for " excess calcium " heart

disease:

http://tinyurl.com/3cwb2

 

And don't get me started on the dangers of eating Pringles, LOL. Ain't no

placebo in the world gonna heal you from that shee-hit.

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I was wondering if anyone had a good program or something that they especially

liked and think worked on colon cleansing and detoxing the body? I've been doing

a major search on it on the net - but have come up with SO MUCH and of course it

seems like everyone has the best supplements/vitamins/program diet to

buy....just thought I'd see what the REAL experts had to say on the subject :-)

 

 

Blessings,

Pam

 

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Christine Ziegler

Friday, February 20, 2004 10:28 AM

RE: Interesting story on pain -- and our beliefs

 

 

I wonder how much money they got in a grant to come to these findings,

which no doubt are interesting, but also are well known for centuries.

The placebo effect and its concept are nothing new.

 

Shamans and Witch Doctors and Voodoo Practitioners and old backwoods

Country Doctors

who learned via apprenticeship and all manner of so-called uneducated,

backward, but effective healers have known forever that healing was

healing regardless of how it occurred ... and getting the patient to

believe that the medicine or the dance or the smoke and feathers was

going to heal them was often enough to do the job.

 

But now folks get hundreds of thousands of dollars in grants to prove

what ancient man knew was a fact

to begin with ... and the biggest placebo around is the one that we are

all mesmerized by ... that of the contemporary medical establishment

 

And then the empathy study ... is it a surprise that people have empathy

for others in pain - especially women? *lol*

 

Ahhh, I wonder what will they do next with grant money - then again, I

have an uncle who got a grant to make " Calcium Enriched Pringles "

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

 

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

 

 

 

Anya [mccoy]

 

 

WASHINGTON - Just thinking a medicine will make you feel better actually

may -- even if it's fake, according to new research examining the

placebo

effect.

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