Vitex is DANGEROUS - Interesting story on pain -- and our beliefs

[Guest guest]

At 08:24 PM 2/20/2004 -0800, you wrote:

>Anya,

>

>> Diseases made or worsened by excess calcium? Heart, arthritis, kidney,

>> etc., etc. Everything in moderation, folks, including the wrongly-touted

>> 'natural' stuff like calcium...and vitex.. couldn't resist.

>

>This is the second time today you have been unable to resist and I don't

>think you are technically qualified to be slinging crap out about who is

>wrongly touting anything.

 

Oh, Butch, lighten up. I have every right to post my opinion, and I find

you constant personal attacks censorship. Keep touting your line, and let

me keep my right to freedom of speech, which you seem to be intent on

stomping upon.

 

For the sake of the list, I am not going to reply to Butch anymore,let him

rant his censorship against my posts, and recognize he won't let me have an

opinion without an attack.

 

Butch, if you think i posted the placebo post merely to write about vitex,

I'm safe in saying you need to have your head examined. I have never

personally attacked you before, as you whined like a baby in your pervious

post, so regard this as my first personal attack against you.

 

I was posting about pain and placebos. It never occurred to me that you see

bogeymen everywhere, but, yes, you are now. You are really over the edge

regarding this subject, so I suggest you killfile me. If you notice, I have

not replied to any of your hucksterism on vitex for a while now, I have no

interest in your shilling it, so let it die, if you can. If you can't be

assured I have you killfiled from now on, and I will post about vitex any

damn time I please, without your control freak actions censoring me.

http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady

[Guest guest]

Thanks to those who have written me privately. It's nice to know folks want

to hear information from all sides, and that those folks don't accept

proselytizing about an EO without questioning it.

 

One asked why I don't put up a webpage like my AT Debunked and Defended

site, and I will. Give me a little time, since I have to gather all the

information and build the website. I'll announce it here and on other

herb/oil groups.

 

I believe the most damning words will be those from Barbara Lucks herself,

quoted in this group recently. It won't be an elaborate webpage, and won't

include *any* of my own writings, or any of the EO hucksters, it will just

use public domain information that is already out there about the Vitex EO.

Links to websites will be included, as they are found.

 

Then people can make their own, informed decision, pro or con.

 

http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady