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In a message dated 1/28/2004 8:41:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,

butchbsi writes:

 

> Second- writing me off the list is OK if you can give me a valid e-

> >mail address to reply back, I am not a con artist or a thief, and

> >take great offense to that accusation. I do have a business degree

> >and did run my own company before I became as you say a useless

> >retarded gimp.

>

 

Wow! Sounds like the same twisted, small minded sad woman that emailed me.

Can't say for sure, but surely sounds like it.

 

I'm sorry this has happened. What you can do is report them. What these

idjits don't know is that every email IS traceable, it can take time, but

hotmail

and and the like have found it to be in their best interests to actively

help in these sorts of things) and if they don't straighten up and leave you

alone, they are going to find themselves in a heap of trouble, starting with a

knock at the door.

 

YOu can also block that sad stupid person, but I have found reporting them to

be MUCH more effective. Make sure to send a copy of the email (actually

foward the emails when you report the jack ass doing this, it helps them to

trace

them.).

 

Good Luck Gea and I'm really sorry that some stupid, small minded idiot who

just loves to try and create misery in your life because they have no happiness

in their own has decided to be nasty.

 

Cheers!

Kathleen Petrides

Editor: Aromtic Sage

http://www.aromaticsage.com

 

 

 

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Butch, Gea, and others~

 

It is not as difficult to track down these cowards as they think it is.

Hiding behind bogus email address will not keep you from being

found out.

 

We all have opinions. In AT there seem to be some wonderful people

and some are cowards, jealous and hateful.

 

Gea keep your head up and please follow through with what I ask you

to send me.

There are consequences for folks you make harassing and threatening

remarks on line.

 

Hugs~

Janet

 

 

>Hey Gea,

>

> > Just to clarify again, I seem to have been misunderstood, and upset

> > someone and it has gotten out of hand.

> > First -I am NOT a YL dealer and have no plans to.

>

>I think anybody who has paid attention to your past postings would know

>that .. and you have stated before that you were taking an AT Course

>(which is not Martin's so I have no vested interests) but that alone

>would show the casual observer that you are not a YL dealer.

>

> > I asked because someone came to me asking for my supplier, I wanted

> > to know if that is what is going on- buying from others and selling

> > under the YL name.

>

>YL buys from whoever they can .. rebottles in their bottles and labels.

>But this is not a bad thing .. its a norm .. I sell wholesale to 7-8

>folks a day .. its a normal way to acquire EO.

>

> > Second- writing me off the list is OK if you can give me a valid e-

> > mail address to reply back, I am not a con artist or a thief, and

> > take great offense to that accusation. I do have a business degree

> > and did run my own company before I became as you say a useless

> > retarded gimp.

>

>IF there was no valid email address .. then the person who wrote you is

>a COWARD .. they lack character and suffer from a lack of ethics. So to

>hell with such folks!

>

> > I am a big girl and I can take nasty and ignorant words, my kids and

> > my husband take them as a threat to me so because I cannot reply to

> > you via e-mail I must post here, and I do appoligize to Chris and the

> > group for this public display.

>

>You done good .. my opinion. I have made it a point to NEVER EVER do

>off line posting when I am in disagreement with someone .. except for

>VERY good friends .. folks who I really like and would and have had in

>my home. Martin and I have called each other all kinds of sumbitches

>off line and likely will do it again in the future .. but we can do that

>without holding grudges.

>

>If I have disagreement with someone writing on a list .. its on that

>list that I will show my disagreement .. and if the person who is my

>list adversary on the subject being discussed (they might not be one on

>other issues) tries to write me off list to resolve the on list debate,

>I will refuse to answer .. one person on the list knows this now.

>

>I would advise others to consider what I have written here .. and also I

>would advise folks to not get wrapped around the axle on issues like AT

>and EO .. its not a personal thing .. its a matter of not agreeing on

>positions in an industry that has no published standards in the second

>place.

>

>I am never going to get upset over so-called safety issues unless they

>are VERY dangerous .. using Wintergreen on a long term basis is that ..

>but using Wintergreen to stop pain is not .. so I wouldn't give a damn

>who sold it or used it. But drinking Pennyroyal is another matter .. I

>can get upset over that. I don't get upset with folks who drink or

>smoke cause its not guaranteed to be hazardous .. but I do get upset

>with folks who drink and drive under the affluence of inkohol.

>

>I don't get upset with YL groupies .. or sellers of YL products .. but I

>do get upset with YLers who force their ignorance on children and their

>pets. They can burn their own asses off with Raindrop Therapy .. but

>not their children and pets.

>

> > Now, I will quietly bow out-I am sorry I posted a question you were

> > offended by, but I ask you to kindly to stop writing me.

> > Gea

>

>Don't be sorry .. you did nothing wrong. And if the person continues to

>harass you there is a way to determine from where they email is coming.

>

>This crap is not life .. this crap is but one of the many somethings we

>do in life .. its not a personal thing .. and them that takes it wrong

>are hurting themselves .. they are probably perpetually disgruntled

>folks who keep on feeding the fires that are consuming them. Butch

>

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Gea,

 

It seems perfectly clear to me, having actually READ (and gone back

and re-read) your posts, that you were speculating about a

hypothetical situation. If whomever wrote you didn't get that - well,

I must say they deserve a big, wet, raspberry at the very least.

 

Don't let one idiot upset you. :)

 

JenB

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Hey Gea,

 

> Just to clarify again, I seem to have been misunderstood, and upset

> someone and it has gotten out of hand.

> First -I am NOT a YL dealer and have no plans to.

 

I think anybody who has paid attention to your past postings would know

that .. and you have stated before that you were taking an AT Course

(which is not Martin's so I have no vested interests) but that alone

would show the casual observer that you are not a YL dealer.

 

> I asked because someone came to me asking for my supplier, I wanted

> to know if that is what is going on- buying from others and selling

> under the YL name.

 

YL buys from whoever they can .. rebottles in their bottles and labels.

But this is not a bad thing .. its a norm .. I sell wholesale to 7-8

folks a day .. its a normal way to acquire EO.

 

> Second- writing me off the list is OK if you can give me a valid e-

> mail address to reply back, I am not a con artist or a thief, and

> take great offense to that accusation. I do have a business degree

> and did run my own company before I became as you say a useless

> retarded gimp.

 

IF there was no valid email address .. then the person who wrote you is

a COWARD .. they lack character and suffer from a lack of ethics. So to

hell with such folks!

 

> I am a big girl and I can take nasty and ignorant words, my kids and

> my husband take them as a threat to me so because I cannot reply to

> you via e-mail I must post here, and I do appoligize to Chris and the

> group for this public display.

 

You done good .. my opinion. I have made it a point to NEVER EVER do

off line posting when I am in disagreement with someone .. except for

VERY good friends .. folks who I really like and would and have had in

my home. Martin and I have called each other all kinds of sumbitches

off line and likely will do it again in the future .. but we can do that

without holding grudges.

 

If I have disagreement with someone writing on a list .. its on that

list that I will show my disagreement .. and if the person who is my

list adversary on the subject being discussed (they might not be one on

other issues) tries to write me off list to resolve the on list debate,

I will refuse to answer .. one person on the list knows this now.

 

I would advise others to consider what I have written here .. and also I

would advise folks to not get wrapped around the axle on issues like AT

and EO .. its not a personal thing .. its a matter of not agreeing on

positions in an industry that has no published standards in the second

place.

 

I am never going to get upset over so-called safety issues unless they

are VERY dangerous .. using Wintergreen on a long term basis is that ..

but using Wintergreen to stop pain is not .. so I wouldn't give a damn

who sold it or used it. But drinking Pennyroyal is another matter .. I

can get upset over that. I don't get upset with folks who drink or

smoke cause its not guaranteed to be hazardous .. but I do get upset

with folks who drink and drive under the affluence of inkohol.

 

I don't get upset with YL groupies .. or sellers of YL products .. but I

do get upset with YLers who force their ignorance on children and their

pets. They can burn their own asses off with Raindrop Therapy .. but

not their children and pets.

 

> Now, I will quietly bow out-I am sorry I posted a question you were

> offended by, but I ask you to kindly to stop writing me.

> Gea

 

Don't be sorry .. you did nothing wrong. And if the person continues to

harass you there is a way to determine from where they email is coming.

 

This crap is not life .. this crap is but one of the many somethings we

do in life .. its not a personal thing .. and them that takes it wrong

are hurting themselves .. they are probably perpetually disgruntled

folks who keep on feeding the fires that are consuming them. Butch

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