Jasmine Absolute

[Guest guest]

Hi Michael,

 

>>>Thanks, I have an affinity for jasmine. And by the way Butch, you

>>>have had some different jasmines over the last couple of years.

>

>>>The first was very purely sweet. The most recent is a little

>>>different, has somewhat of a " musty " overtone. Any comments?

>>

>>Garsh .. I think you are confusing me with someone else .. or I have

>>lost some files. I don't see where I've ever sold you any Jasmine

>>Absolute .. but I sent you a sample in November 2003.

>>

>>The batch I have a 2002 batch .. and I've never had a Jasmine but

>>Jasminum sambac. So I don't know what to say.

>

> Actually I got two samples. The first was with my original order with

> you and somehow I lost it so I asked for a second (you probably don't

> like to give multiple samples). So was my first sample from a

> previous batch?

 

I was not aware you had received two samples .. and I would not refuse a

second one .. it happens often. But odds are it was thrown in after a

phone con with my folks in Maryland .. your first orders were by phone,

but I have no knowledge of the date it was sent .. so I can't comment.

The only hard copy I have is the November 2003 sample.

 

> Margaret said that there was some difference in the two batches and

> that jasmine can change as it seasons.

 

Its really better to come to me for information and orders instead of to

my folks in Maryland. They have little to no knowledge of essential

oils/absolutes .. its not their job to know. Their jobs are stocking,

inventorying, filling orders, packaging and shipping of orders .. and

bookkeeping/reporting to me. They should not be answering questions or

technical inquiries on products .. and I will remind them .. and I can't

stand behind what they might have told you in a phonecon. My missions

are market research, pricing, ordering, testing and answering technical

inquiries on products. Each person has distinct missions in AVNP .. and

they are separate but equally important missions.

 

I have only had two batches of Jasmine .. from 2001 and from 2002. Of

course, any aromatic can change from year to year but I have samples of

every oil we've ever sold .. here in Turkey .. and I just now sniffed

the two Jasmines and detect no significant difference in the odors. It

is usual for an Absolute to change in a sort period of time or even from

one year to the next .. though we can find many EO changes from year to

year and changes as they age .. some mellow and become more pleasing to

the olfactory senses .. Rose Otto & Sandalwood for example.

 

> I just realized that there are different jasmines...sambac,

> (something) florum, and maybe others. Different jasmines must have

> slightly different smells. I guess that batches and ages of batches

> can also cause slight changes.

> Michael

 

There are hundreds of species of Jasmine .. but few are produced as

Absolutes .. primarily Jasminum sambac and Jasminum grandiflorum .. but

like Oranges, we can run into some confusion on the true Botanical Names

of Jasmines because some plantations use one variety as a rootstock but

might graft another variety onto the plant for flower production.

 

I've never offered anything but Jasminum sambac .. from India. And

never had but two batches.

 

Y'all keep smiling., :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

[Guest guest]

Hope I didn't get anyone in trouble in Maryland. To their credit,

they have forwarded technical questions to you more than once.

 

Is there a difference between jasmine sambac and grandiflorum? Why do

you like sambac?

 

Michael

 

 

, Butch Owen <butchbsi@s...>

wrote:

> Hi Michael,

>

> >>>Thanks, I have an affinity for jasmine. And by the way Butch,

you

> >>>have had some different jasmines over the last couple of years.

> >

> >>>The first was very purely sweet. The most recent is a little

> >>>different, has somewhat of a " musty " overtone. Any comments?

> >>

> >>Garsh .. I think you are confusing me with someone else .. or I

have

> >>lost some files. I don't see where I've ever sold you any

Jasmine

> >>Absolute .. but I sent you a sample in November 2003.

> >>

> >>The batch I have a 2002 batch .. and I've never had a Jasmine but

> >>Jasminum sambac. So I don't know what to say.

> >

> > Actually I got two samples. The first was with my original order

with

> > you and somehow I lost it so I asked for a second (you probably

don't

> > like to give multiple samples). So was my first sample from a

> > previous batch?

>

> I was not aware you had received two samples .. and I would not

refuse a

> second one .. it happens often. But odds are it was thrown in

after a

> phone con with my folks in Maryland .. your first orders were by

phone,

> but I have no knowledge of the date it was sent .. so I can't

comment.

> The only hard copy I have is the November 2003 sample.

>

> > Margaret said that there was some difference in the two batches

and

> > that jasmine can change as it seasons.

>

> Its really better to come to me for information and orders instead

of to

> my folks in Maryland. They have little to no knowledge of

essential

> oils/absolutes .. its not their job to know. Their jobs are

stocking,

> inventorying, filling orders, packaging and shipping of orders ..

and

> bookkeeping/reporting to me. They should not be answering

questions or

> technical inquiries on products .. and I will remind them .. and I

can't

> stand behind what they might have told you in a phonecon. My

missions

> are market research, pricing, ordering, testing and answering

technical

> inquiries on products. Each person has distinct missions in

AVNP .. and

> they are separate but equally important missions.

>

> I have only had two batches of Jasmine .. from 2001 and from 2002.

Of

> course, any aromatic can change from year to year but I have

samples of

> every oil we've ever sold .. here in Turkey .. and I just now

sniffed

> the two Jasmines and detect no significant difference in the

odors. It

> is usual for an Absolute to change in a sort period of time or even

from

> one year to the next .. though we can find many EO changes from

year to

> year and changes as they age .. some mellow and become more

pleasing to

> the olfactory senses .. Rose Otto & Sandalwood for example.

>

> > I just realized that there are different jasmines...sambac,

> > (something) florum, and maybe others. Different jasmines must

have

> > slightly different smells. I guess that batches and ages of

batches

> > can also cause slight changes.

> > Michael

>

> There are hundreds of species of Jasmine .. but few are produced as

> Absolutes .. primarily Jasminum sambac and Jasminum

grandiflorum .. but

> like Oranges, we can run into some confusion on the true Botanical

Names

> of Jasmines because some plantations use one variety as a rootstock

but

> might graft another variety onto the plant for flower production.

>

> I've never offered anything but Jasminum sambac .. from India. And

> never had but two batches.

>

> Y'all keep smiling., :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com