Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 And about the oils the company flogs... you can get better quality oils for three times LESS than what YL sells them for (highway ROBBERY). Lemmee tell you a little something... There are tests than can be performed on the oils to check for purity and quality. You can copies of the GC tests from most reputable purveyors of Essential oils... now ask YL. You haven't got a chicken farts chance in HELL of getting anything from them. They don't want you to KNOW what you are getting. Now. That's not to say that all their oils are crap. They most likely aren't ALL crap. But why pay three times more just for a bit of marketing hype (like the AFNOR and GRAS crap they're always waving around - these don't mean SQUAT) when you can get good oils elsewhere... Now. When people ask me (as I KNOW you're next question is going to be) WHERE can they get good quality oils from, the first three off the top of my head are ALWAYS: http://www.alittleolfactory.com http://www.av-at.com http://www.naturesgift.com Not in any particular choice order... just alphabetical... These three are by no means the only ones out there. Want more choices, got to google and plug in EO retailer and you will get a BUNDLE full. Or on Thursday's purveyors of good things advertise here... watch what turns up. So. There you go. Reasonable and calm with almost no swearing at all. K Cheers! Kathleen Petrides Editor: Aromtic Sage http://www.aromaticsage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 In a message dated 1/13/2004 1:17:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, pam writes: > Are there any official papers on either the arrests or stop notices or > anything? yes there are. I've got copies somewhere... the newspapers in Seattle, Spokane and in Ca have their archives of the articles they've written on this man. You're right. He SHOULD have been in Jail a long time ago... would have been too except for the same commodity that bought Bush the White House (You listening Butch... phhhttttt!). Money makes a lot of bad things happen... or not... depending who's sitting on which side of the fence... K Cheers! Kathleen Petrides Editor: Aromtic Sage http://www.aromaticsage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 At 10:45 AM 1/13/04, you wrote: >wow...yep, you are passionate :-) ... which is ok with me - but I too want >to see the cards before I get in any deeper than I am - I'm signing up my >FRIENDS for goodness sake! so tell me more...you can be nice :-) wellllllllllll...just for starters.... it is fairly well accepted, except, of course, by David Steward, PhD and YL shill extraordinaire...and author of the 'oils of the Bible' book... that the aromatic oils used in the Bible were infused oils... the process of steam distillation was discovered about 10 centuries later... for starters. I personally find the " prey on your fellow church members and make money off them " a bit offensive... but that's me. then we can get into the whole issue of safe and unsafe methods of use of the various oils.... issues of sensitization and skin irritation... that are ignored by YL... " because if you have a bad reaction to an oil it must be an impure or adulterated oil, not one of the pure YL oils. " as Brother Butch would say.... bovine excrement! Your source for superb Essential Oils, Aromatherapy Accessories, Information, Books and more! Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 thank you K - I do appreciate your info - I was wondering, I went to your site and read the info on there - was wondering - who is the insider that wrote all the info on DGY? he/she doesn't sign his name and I was wondering how he/she knew all the intimate conversations and things from what happened when Gary Young was from an infant onwards? How does he have access to this intimate information - seems like he/she would have had to grown up in the family? and why don't they sign their name? as for the purity of the oil - well, like you said, they do put out a good marketing strategy - and so - like everything else - experts on both sides of the fence say they know the whole story. Now that is not to say I am discounting what you say - I'm sure there is a whole nuther side of the YL story .... but what has been painted so far sounds so criminal and corrupt that its hard to imagine that he shouldn't be in jail?? I will continue to listen...and learn...and boy I'll tell you what...if there are other oils out there that are pure and cost 1/3 the price of YL...I'm ALL FOR IT! - and btw, I HATE MLM ... with a passion...if it weren't for my MOTHER .... I would never have bought any of them at all ... nor signed up....so I'm all ears :-) Are there any official papers on either the arrests or stop notices or anything? thanks for your help Pam - WoobeyQueen Tuesday, January 13, 2004 12:58 PM Re: yl - oils of the Bible And about the oils the company flogs... you can get better quality oils for three times LESS than what YL sells them for (highway ROBBERY). Lemmee tell you a little something... There are tests than can be performed on the oils to check for purity and quality. You can copies of the GC tests from most reputable purveyors of Essential oils... now ask YL. You haven't got a chicken farts chance in HELL of getting anything from them. They don't want you to KNOW what you are getting. Now. That's not to say that all their oils are crap. They most likely aren't ALL crap. But why pay three times more just for a bit of marketing hype (like the AFNOR and GRAS crap they're always waving around - these don't mean SQUAT) when you can get good oils elsewhere... Now. When people ask me (as I KNOW you're next question is going to be) WHERE can they get good quality oils from, the first three off the top of my head are ALWAYS: http://www.alittleolfactory.com http://www.av-at.com http://www.naturesgift.com Not in any particular choice order... just alphabetical... These three are by no means the only ones out there. Want more choices, got to google and plug in EO retailer and you will get a BUNDLE full. Or on Thursday's purveyors of good things advertise here... watch what turns up. So. There you go. Reasonable and calm with almost no swearing at all. K Cheers! Kathleen Petrides Editor: Aromtic Sage http://www.aromaticsage.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Hey Pam, > > I will continue to listen...and learn...and boy > I'll tell you what...if there are other oils > out there that are pure and cost 1/3 the price > of YL...I'm ALL FOR IT! - and btw, I HATE MLM > ... with a passion...if it weren't for my > MOTHER ... I would never have bought any of > them at all ... nor signed up....so I'm all > ears :-) Marge Clark, Chris (the list Mom) and of course Butch Owens all have absolutely wonderful oils which are nowhere near the prices of YL's. Check some out. They will all send you some sampls. Compare, request some samples from other companies as well. You will find that many people have oils better quality than YL and are not a rip off. Cheryl ===== Cheryl Smith A Heavenly Body 204 Muldoon Road Anchorage AK 99504 Hotjobs: Enter the " Signing Bonus " Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./signingbonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Cheryl - how does one determine if an oil is better than another? Do companies put out their testing results ect? or is it just a matter of smell? Like you can tell....I have no clue ;-) Pam - Cheryl Smith Tuesday, January 13, 2004 3:15 PM Re: yl - oils of the Bible Hey Pam, > > I will continue to listen...and learn...and boy > I'll tell you what...if there are other oils > out there that are pure and cost 1/3 the price > of YL...I'm ALL FOR IT! - and btw, I HATE MLM > ... with a passion...if it weren't for my > MOTHER ... I would never have bought any of > them at all ... nor signed up....so I'm all > ears :-) Marge Clark, Chris (the list Mom) and of course Butch Owens all have absolutely wonderful oils which are nowhere near the prices of YL's. Check some out. They will all send you some sampls. Compare, request some samples from other companies as well. You will find that many people have oils better quality than YL and are not a rip off. Cheryl ===== Cheryl Smith A Heavenly Body 204 Muldoon Road Anchorage AK 99504 Hotjobs: Enter the " Signing Bonus " Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./signingbonus Step By Step Instructions On Making Rose Petal Preserves: http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html To adjust your group settings (i.e. go no mail) see the following link: /join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Pam, >how does one determine if an oil is > better than another? Do companies put out their > testing results ect? or is it just a matter of > smell? << It is a matter of buying small amounts from many different companies and comparing them to find the one you like best. Yes smelling them is the main way that I do it. I certainly do not understand the MSDS's that well but I also really trust those that I buy from. They have excellent reputations through the industry. Butch Owens, Marge and Chris that I mentioned previously all test their oils. They tests samples then the batch when it comes in. They will all gladly provide MSDS's too, if I remember correctly (I know Butch does). What I have students do is buy 5 oils from one company that they choose based on whatever reasoning they use, I buy 5 of the same oils from around town and I use 5 of the oils that I sell. I make sure they are the same species and hopefully grown in the same country. Then I cover them with slips of paper so no one knows which is which and place one drop on different perfume strips and have them compare them. 9 out of 10 have choose Butch's (by smell) as being the best. You have to find a supplier you trust. I trust Butch, Marge and Chris. There are many others out there and you can read MSDS's all you want and still not understand them. Marge, Chris, Butch - how about jumping in here and explain how you choose the oils you sell, please? Cheryl ===== Cheryl Smith A Heavenly Body 204 Muldoon Road Anchorage AK 99504 Hotjobs: Enter the " Signing Bonus " Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./signingbonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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