Bergamot in Soap ** INFO from the Experts

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Thanks Butch.

 

Bobbye

 

 

 

 

, Butch Owen <butchbsi@s...>

wrote:

> Hey Bobbye,

>

> > When " you all " talk about the EO's that are toxic or cause

> > photosentization, etc., are you discussing them in relation to

using

> > them in " leave on " products such as massage oils, creams/lotions,

> > etc.

>

> Photosensitization .. generally .. but one application is enough.

> Sensitization ....... not necessarily .. one application is enough.

> Irritation .......... not at all .. one application is always

enough.

> Toxicity ............ generally involves ingestion .. though some

oils

> can be toxic with frequent use .. like Wintergreen and Sweet Birch.

>

> > What about soap? Is it safe to use bergamot (non FCF,

peppermint,

> > citrus in soap if it is a minute part of a blend? Does it make a

> > difference whether you take a bath where you may indulge yourself

> > for 30 minutes in soapy bath water vs. hopping in the shower

> > soaping, rinsing and out.

>

> Soap is not normally left on the skin .. its rinsed off. But .. if

> someone were to soak in a tub for a half hour then get out, dry

off,

> get dressed and go out .. they might experience photosensitization

> from Bergamot.

>

> > Right now, I'm a little paranoid on using EO's that may cause a

> > problem. I know I make lavender soap and my husband is allergic

to

> > it so I know what that can do.

>

> There is a report in Plant Aromatics of a young gal spilling

Bergamot

> on her hand while putting it in bathwater .. doesn't say how long

she

> was in the tub but it appears that the Bergamot was neat .. and

later

> she did have photosensitivity.

>

> Why not use FCF Bergamot for soap .. if you gotta use Bergamot at

all.

> I don't want to sell it as its manipulated but that's my call ..

many

> folks don't agree and that's fine .. but I would use it in soap.

>

> > I've read Martin Watt's site and plan to get his book from Butch

> > once Christmas bills are all paid-in-full.

>

> Good show .. the new, revised edition of Plant Aromatics came out

in

> November 2001 and as you read this the FOURTH PRINTING is coming

to AVNP

> in Maryland from the printers in Pennsylvania .. its a hot one

fer'shur.

> http://www.av-at.com/plantaromaticsavnp.html

>

> > I appreciate any explanations.

>

> Yes'm .. wackum you are .. that's my 2 cents .. mebbe we'll get

more.

>

> > Warmly,

> > Bobbye

> > Transform the planet through love,

> > one heart at the time

>

> And to you .. y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-

AT.com

[Guest guest]

Hey Bobbye,

 

> When " you all " talk about the EO's that are toxic or cause

> photosentization, etc., are you discussing them in relation to using

> them in " leave on " products such as massage oils, creams/lotions,

> etc.

 

Photosensitization .. generally .. but one application is enough.

Sensitization ....... not necessarily .. one application is enough.

Irritation .......... not at all .. one application is always enough.

Toxicity ............ generally involves ingestion .. though some oils

can be toxic with frequent use .. like Wintergreen and Sweet Birch.

 

> What about soap? Is it safe to use bergamot (non FCF, peppermint,

> citrus in soap if it is a minute part of a blend? Does it make a

> difference whether you take a bath where you may indulge yourself

> for 30 minutes in soapy bath water vs. hopping in the shower

> soaping, rinsing and out.

 

Soap is not normally left on the skin .. its rinsed off. But .. if

someone were to soak in a tub for a half hour then get out, dry off,

get dressed and go out .. they might experience photosensitization

from Bergamot.

 

> Right now, I'm a little paranoid on using EO's that may cause a

> problem. I know I make lavender soap and my husband is allergic to

> it so I know what that can do.

 

There is a report in Plant Aromatics of a young gal spilling Bergamot

on her hand while putting it in bathwater .. doesn't say how long she

was in the tub but it appears that the Bergamot was neat .. and later

she did have photosensitivity.

 

Why not use FCF Bergamot for soap .. if you gotta use Bergamot at all.

I don't want to sell it as its manipulated but that's my call .. many

folks don't agree and that's fine .. but I would use it in soap.

 

> I've read Martin Watt's site and plan to get his book from Butch

> once Christmas bills are all paid-in-full.

 

Good show .. the new, revised edition of Plant Aromatics came out in

November 2001 and as you read this the FOURTH PRINTING is coming to AVNP

in Maryland from the printers in Pennsylvania .. its a hot one fer'shur.

http://www.av-at.com/plantaromaticsavnp.html

 

> I appreciate any explanations.

 

Yes'm .. wackum you are .. that's my 2 cents .. mebbe we'll get more.

 

> Warmly,

> Bobbye

> Transform the planet through love,

> one heart at the time

 

And to you .. y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com