Ideas for presenting TCM / Herbal Medicine to Children

[Guest guest]

Hi All, & Sunny,

 

> I would be careful about presenting earthworm and scorpion depending on

> the age group. Remember they are going to tell people a long time that

> we make them eat earthworms and scorpions which might turn off children

> and adults. I agree with the other fun things that let them have hands

> on. Sunny

 

I agree with Sunny.

 

Many medicinals in the Chinese Pharmacopoeia are either banned or

ethically / hygienically unacceptable in western culture. These include:

 

parts from animals, especially protected species (rhino, tiger, seahorse,

etc);

 

medicinals that may involve perceived cruelty to animals in their collection

(bear-bile, antler velvet, etc);

 

animal genitals, placenta, umbilical cord or human hair;

 

animal or human faeces or urine products;

 

minerals with a high load of heavy metals (As, Pb, Cd, Hg, etc);

fossils;

 

banned herbs (XIxin, Mutong, etc);

etc

 

Though experts may use such medicinals from time to time when needed (if

no suitable alternative is available), for best public relations, we should stay

quiet about that.

 

We should mention / show only medicinals that conservatives or opponents

of herbal medicine regard as safe and acceptable.

 

Best regards,

 

[Guest guest]

Hi All, & Sunny,

 

> I would be careful about presenting earthworm and scorpion depending on

> the age group. Remember they are going to tell people a long time that

> we make them eat earthworms and scorpions which might turn off children

> and adults. I agree with the other fun things that let them have hands

> on. Sunny

 

I agree with Sunny.

 

Many medicinals in the Chinese Pharmacopoeia are either banned or

ethically / hygienically unacceptable in western culture. These include:

 

parts from animals, especially protected species (rhino, tiger, seahorse,

etc);

 

medicinals that may involve perceived cruelty to animals in their collection

(bear-bile, antler velvet, etc);

 

animal genitals, placenta, umbilical cord or human hair;

 

animal or human faeces or urine products;

 

minerals with a high load of heavy metals (As, Pb, Cd, Hg, etc);

fossils;

 

banned herbs (XIxin, Mutong, etc);

etc

 

Though experts may use such medicinals from time to time when needed (if

no suitable alternative is available), for best public relations, we should stay

quiet about that.

 

We should mention / show only medicinals that conservatives or opponents

of herbal medicine regard as safe and acceptable.

 

Best regards,

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Phil,

 

> medicinals that may involve perceived cruelty to animals in their

collection

> (bear-bile, antler velvet, etc);

>

>As Im not really up on my deer biology, (Ask me anything you want

about marsupials, but not deer!) I thought that deer dropped their

antlers and the velvet every year? Is this wrong? Or do they just

harvest it more aggressively for TCM purposes? (I noticed you

said " percieved " ?)

I know in New Zealand where deer are an introduced species that are

pests, tourist shops often sell deer products for asian tourists.

(Dried deer pizzle anyone?)

Lea.

[Guest guest]

Hello all, Phil and Sunny,

 

I agree with both of you. Phil, as always, makes a very important

point. I have appreciated your most valuable and always accurate posts

immensely for many years now. Thanks, Phil, for caring.

 

IMHO, we must simplify and mainstream our public teachings, especialy

when it comes to children. I teach some classes in a community service

situation, and I usually start with the herbs/medicinals that can

safely be used on a daily basis in soups, congees, stews, and teas.

People can relate to them, they often have heard of them or even eaten

them occasionally, and they are nutritious as well as delicicious, and

very safe if used correctly.

 

Single herbs used as teas include ma bian cao, yu xing cao, jiao gu

lan or qi ye dan, ju hua, gou qi zi, etc. I also use my own formula of

qing cao cha, a great recipe during the hot, humid Taiwanese summers.

 

Herbal medicinals used in soups, congees and stews include huang qi,

dang shen, he shou wu, da zao, gan cao, shan yao, ren shen, san qi,

jue ming zi, yi yi ren, ge gen, dang gui, rou gui, wu wei zi, wu mei,

sheng jiang, lu hui, shan zha, da suan, zi su ye, jiang huang, zhi ma

ren, ya ma ren zi (pay attention to cool, dark, sealed storage), etc.

 

This intro to common herbs here in Taiwan often gets patients and

students alike interested in " foods and herbs " as a natural, cheap,

and effective preventive measure to maintain homeostasis.

 

Just some thoughts,

 

Daniel

 

 

 

 

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< wrote:

>

> Hi All, & Sunny,

>

> > I would be careful about presenting earthworm and scorpion

depending on

> > the age group. Remember they are going to tell people a long time that

> > we make them eat earthworms and scorpions which might turn off

children

> > and adults. I agree with the other fun things that let them have hands

> > on. Sunny

>

> I agree with Sunny.

>

> Many medicinals in the Chinese Pharmacopoeia are either banned or

> ethically / hygienically unacceptable in western culture. These include:

>

> parts from animals, especially protected species (rhino, tiger,

seahorse,

> etc);

>

> medicinals that may involve perceived cruelty to animals in their

collection

> (bear-bile, antler velvet, etc);

>

> animal genitals, placenta, umbilical cord or human hair;

>

> animal or human faeces or urine products;

>

> minerals with a high load of heavy metals (As, Pb, Cd, Hg, etc);

> fossils;

>

> banned herbs (XIxin, Mutong, etc);

> etc

>

> Though experts may use such medicinals from time to time when needed

(if

> no suitable alternative is available), for best public relations, we

should stay

> quiet about that.

>

> We should mention / show only medicinals that conservatives or

opponents

> of herbal medicine regard as safe and acceptable.

>

> Best regards,

>

>

[Guest guest]

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President China Herb Company

Program Director of the Chinese Herb Program

Tai Sophia Institute for the Healing Arts

office: 215- 438-2977

fax: 215-849-3338

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Www.carafrank.com

 

 

 

I disagree. The gross-out factor when presenting bugs to school kids is

hilarious! They get a total charge out of it. As a volunteering mom for my

kids school, I spent my time doing show and tells. After familiar plants

like jin yin hua, ju hua, rou gui ) which they get to taste. And the

cinnamon sticks are over a foot long (wow!), gou qi zi for munching.

and then snakes, scorpions, etc. and then the chat about endangered

species.

it makes for a fun hour.

 

Cara

 

 

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< wrote:

>

> Hi All, & Sunny,

>

> > I would be careful about presenting earthworm and scorpion

depending on

> > the age group. Remember they are going to tell people a long time that

> > we make them eat earthworms and scorpions which might turn off

children

> > and adults. I agree with the other fun things that let them have hands

> > on. Sunny

>

> I agree with Sunny.

>

> Many medicinals in the Chinese Pharmacopoeia are either banned or

> ethically / hygienically unacceptable in western culture. These include:

>

> parts from animals, especially protected species (rhino, tiger,

seahorse,

> etc);

>

> medicinals that may involve perceived cruelty to animals in their

collection

> (bear-bile, antler velvet, etc);

>

> animal genitals, placenta, umbilical cord or human hair;

>

> animal or human faeces or urine products;

>

> minerals with a high load of heavy metals (As, Pb, Cd, Hg, etc);

> fossils;

>

> banned herbs (XIxin, Mutong, etc);

> etc

>

> Though experts may use such medicinals from time to time when needed

(if

> no suitable alternative is available), for best public relations, we

should stay

> quiet about that.

>

> We should mention / show only medicinals that conservatives or

opponents

> of herbal medicine regard as safe and acceptable.

>

> Best regards,

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free

discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

MmMmMm- yummy, do you have a guest bathrooom in case you invite me

over for soup ...

 

, and they are nutritious as well as delicicious, ...

> Herbal medicinals used in soups, congees and stews include ..., lu

hui, ...

>

> Daniel

>

[Guest guest]

I've seen that too. Alot of kids love and are fascinated by bugs.

When they see how they are used in medicine some just eat it up (so to

speak). I have to agree with Phil overall though, once those

deepseated xenophobic prejudices have taken root, better to hide the

truth from most. And once those go kids go home bragging about how

they ate part of an earthworm, there could be problems ... . Gus Turpin

 

 

> I disagree. The gross-out factor when presenting bugs to school kids is

> hilarious! They get a total charge out of it. As a volunteering mom

for my

> kids school, I spent my time doing show and tells. After familiar plants

> like jin yin hua, ju hua, rou gui ) which they get to taste. And the

> cinnamon sticks are over a foot long (wow!), gou qi zi for munching.

> and then snakes, scorpions, etc. and then the chat about endangered

> species.

> it makes for a fun hour.

>

> Cara

>

>

> , " "

> <@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi All, & Sunny,

> >

> > > I would be careful about presenting earthworm and scorpion

> depending on

> > > the age group. Remember they are going to tell people a long

time that

> > > we make them eat earthworms and scorpions which might turn off

> children

> > > and adults. I agree with the other fun things that let them have

hands

> > > on. Sunny

> >

> > I agree with Sunny.

> >

> > Many medicinals in the Chinese Pharmacopoeia are either banned or

> > ethically / hygienically unacceptable in western culture. These

include:

> >

> > parts from animals, especially protected species (rhino, tiger,

> seahorse,

> > etc);

> >

> > medicinals that may involve perceived cruelty to animals in their

> collection

> > (bear-bile, antler velvet, etc);

> >

> > animal genitals, placenta, umbilical cord or human hair;

> >

> > animal or human faeces or urine products;

> >

> > minerals with a high load of heavy metals (As, Pb, Cd, Hg, etc);

> > fossils;

> >

> > banned herbs (XIxin, Mutong, etc);

> > etc

> >

> > Though experts may use such medicinals from time to time when needed

> (if

> > no suitable alternative is available), for best public relations, we

> should stay

> > quiet about that.

> >

> > We should mention / show only medicinals that conservatives or

> opponents

> > of herbal medicine regard as safe and acceptable.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> >

>

>

Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including

> board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference

and a free

> discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kids love acupuncture / herb demos. Around ten years ago, a friend who was

a daycare teacher asked me to do a talk with her kids. Their ages ranged

from about 4 years old to about 7 years old. I brought some herb samples for

them to look at, and gave them gou qi zi to taste. They were sitting in a

large circle, so my friend lay down on the floor in the circle, and I put a

needle in her (just tapped it in without manipulating it or pushing it too

deep). The kids loved it. Years later, one of the kids (who I didn't

recognize at first) walked up to me and told me how much he enjoyed it. It's

a lot of fun to do, and apparently has a lasting impression.

 

- Bill Schoenbart

 

..........................

Bill Schoenbart, L.Ac.

PO Box 8099

Santa Cruz, CA 95061

 

 

> > > I would be careful about presenting earthworm and scorpion

> depending on

> > > the age group. Remember they are going to tell people a long

time that

> > > we make them eat earthworms and scorpions which might turn off

> children

> > > and adults. I agree with the other fun things that let them have