grandfathering in as an doctor (Alon)

[Guest guest]

Thu, 18 May 2006 17:17:05 -0700: " "

<alonmarcus wrote:

 

>Still the degree has no real meaning because its not a recognized

degree. If I try to enroll in any higher education university they

will not except any of the credits.

 

In recent years there has emerged some sort of international

accreditation standards, treaty-like arrangements between, say the US

DoE and the PRC Ministry of Education. For instance, in California, a

student with a transcript from a PRC accredited school can be granted

course credits in an CAB approved California AOM school. The

transcript must be certified by an organization that does things like

that, and the California school has the option of granting the credit or not.

 

My wife had a full education as dental surgeon in China, and a decade

of extensive clinical experience, but she graduated in the early

1980's before the PRC had instituted adequate standardization and

record-keeping to qualify by current standards. Like Alon's case,

she'd have to start virtually from scratch here (minimum 2 years

dental school, at $60K per annum) to be able to sit for the board exams

 

 

[Guest guest]

Yes, and if you went to China, France, etc., they would not accept it. However,

I live here and it is accepted.

 

Dr. Snow

 

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Friday, May 19, 2006 4:23 AM

Chinese Medicine

Re: grandfathering in as an doctor (Alon)

 

Thu, 18 May 2006 17:17:05 -0700: " "

<alonmarcus wrote:

 

>Still the degree has no real meaning because its not a recognized

degree. If I try to enroll in any higher education university they

will not except any of the credits.

 

In recent years there has emerged some sort of international

accreditation standards, treaty-like arrangements between, say the US

DoE and the PRC Ministry of Education. For instance, in California, a

student with a transcript from a PRC accredited school can be granted

course credits in an CAB approved California AOM school. The

transcript must be certified by an organization that does things like

that, and the California school has the option of granting the credit or not.

 

My wife had a full education as dental surgeon in China, and a decade

of extensive clinical experience, but she graduated in the early

1980's before the PRC had instituted adequate standardization and

record-keeping to qualify by current standards. Like Alon's case,

she'd have to start virtually from scratch here (minimum 2 years

dental school, at $60K per annum) to be able to sit for the board exams

 

 

 

 

 

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Dr Show if you try to go to any US university none of these credits will be

excepted.

 

 

 

 

Oakland, CA 94609

 

 

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Donald Snow

Chinese Medicine

Friday, May 19, 2006 6:30 AM

Re: grandfathering in as an doctor (Alon)

 

 

Yes, and if you went to China, France, etc., they would not accept it.

However, I live here and it is accepted.

 

Dr. Snow

 

-

Friday, May 19, 2006 4:23 AM

Chinese Medicine

Re: grandfathering in as an doctor (Alon)

 

Thu, 18 May 2006 17:17:05 -0700: " "

<alonmarcus wrote:

 

>Still the degree has no real meaning because its not a recognized

degree. If I try to enroll in any higher education university they

will not except any of the credits.

 

In recent years there has emerged some sort of international

accreditation standards, treaty-like arrangements between, say the US

DoE and the PRC Ministry of Education. For instance, in California, a

student with a transcript from a PRC accredited school can be granted

course credits in an CAB approved California AOM school. The

transcript must be certified by an organization that does things like

that, and the California school has the option of granting the credit or not.

 

My wife had a full education as dental surgeon in China, and a decade

of extensive clinical experience, but she graduated in the early

1980's before the PRC had instituted adequate standardization and

record-keeping to qualify by current standards. Like Alon's case,

she'd have to start virtually from scratch here (minimum 2 years

dental school, at $60K per annum) to be able to sit for the board exams

 

 

 

 

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That's because they don't teach AOM, it they did, our credits would count I

hate to say it, but my AOM alma matta didn't except my " real " college credits

either and I had just completed a Master of Public Health degree in

Epidemiology. They also wouldn't accept any of my undergrad credits, although

the University that I had just earned my MPH from had no trouble accepting any

of my undergrad credits. Go figure.

 

Dr. Snow, DAOM

 

P.S. I just got back from school where Dr. Greg Sperber just successfully

defended his doctoral dissertation/capstone project. He is number 3 at PCOM.

So far, the following people from PCOM have completed their requirements and

defense:

 

1. Dr. Ai Ying, DAOM, who has returned to Taiwan

2. Dr. Don Snow, DAOM, MPH, who is currently communicating with you folks

3. Dr. Greg Sperber, MD, DAOM, MBA, tonight was his night and congratulations

Four more are soon to follow.

 

DJS

 

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Friday, May 19, 2006 7:52 AM

Chinese Medicine

Re: grandfathering in as an doctor (Alon)

 

Dr Show if you try to go to any US university none of these credits will be

excepted.

 

 

 

 

Oakland, CA 94609

 

 

-

Donald Snow

Chinese Medicine

Friday, May 19, 2006 6:30 AM

Re: grandfathering in as an doctor (Alon)

 

 

Yes, and if you went to China, France, etc., they would not accept it.

However, I live here and it is accepted.

 

Dr. Snow

 

-

Friday, May 19, 2006 4:23 AM

Chinese Medicine

Re: grandfathering in as an doctor (Alon)

 

Thu, 18 May 2006 17:17:05 -0700: " "

<alonmarcus wrote:

 

>Still the degree has no real meaning because its not a recognized

degree. If I try to enroll in any higher education university they

will not except any of the credits.

 

In recent years there has emerged some sort of international

accreditation standards, treaty-like arrangements between, say the US

DoE and the PRC Ministry of Education. For instance, in California, a

student with a transcript from a PRC accredited school can be granted

course credits in an CAB approved California AOM school. The

transcript must be certified by an organization that does things like

that, and the California school has the option of granting the credit or not.

 

My wife had a full education as dental surgeon in China, and a decade

of extensive clinical experience, but she graduated in the early

1980's before the PRC had instituted adequate standardization and

record-keeping to qualify by current standards. Like Alon's case,

she'd have to start virtually from scratch here (minimum 2 years

dental school, at $60K per annum) to be able to sit for the board exams

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I think this underlies what Alon has been saying all along and while we remain

outside the norm we will be living very disconnected from much of society. I

have seen a similar phenomenon within chiropractic with so much congrats for

being a " doctor " and fanfare, etc that one has to wonder how often these people

get outside to see reality. Too much inbreeding?

 

MB

 

: don83407: Fri,

19 May 2006 22:02:40 -0700Re: grandfathering in as an doctor

(Alon)That's because they don't teach AOM, it they did, our credits would count

I hate to say it, but my AOM alma matta didn't except my " real " college credits

either and I had just completed a Master of Public Health degree in

Epidemiology. They also wouldn't accept any of my undergrad credits, although

the University that I had just earned my MPH from had no trouble accepting any

of my undergrad credits. Go figure.Dr. Snow, DAOMP.S. I just got back from

school where Dr. Greg Sperber just successfully defended his doctoral

dissertation/capstone project. He is number 3 at PCOM. So far, the following

people from PCOM have completed their requirements and defense: 1. Dr. Ai

Ying, DAOM, who has returned to Taiwan2. Dr. Don Snow, DAOM, MPH, who is

currently communicating with you folks3. Dr. Greg Sperber, MD, DAOM, MBA,

tonight was his night and congratulationsFour more are soon to follow.

DJS-Friday, May 19, 2006

7:52 AM: Re: TCM -

grandfathering in as an doctor (Alon)Dr Show if you try to go to any US

university none of these credits will be excepted. 400 29th St.

#419Oakland, CA 94609 -----

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Chinese Medicine Friday, May 19, 2006 6:30

AM Re: grandfathering in as an doctor (Alon) Yes, and if you

went to China, France, etc., they would not accept it. However, I live here and

it is accepted. Dr. Snow -

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in as an doctor (Alon) Thu, 18 May 2006 17:17:05 -0700: " "

<alonmarcus wrote: >Still the degree has no real meaning because its

not a recognized degree. If I try to enroll in any higher education

university they will not except any of the credits. In recent years there

has emerged some sort of international accreditation standards, treaty-like

arrangements between, say the US DoE and the PRC Ministry of Education. For

instance, in California, a student with a transcript from a PRC accredited

school can be granted course credits in an CAB approved California AOM

school. The transcript must be certified by an organization that does things

like that, and the California school has the option of granting the credit

or not. My wife had a full education as dental surgeon in China, and a decade

of extensive clinical experience, but she graduated in the early 1980's

before the PRC had instituted adequate standardization and record-keeping to

qualify by current standards. Like Alon's case, she'd have to start

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