Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Wed, 17 May 2006 05:12:41 +0100, " " < wrote: > I asked for evidence (other than from the original texts) that needling order really IS important. … > Probably because the original writers BELIEVED that the order was important. Apparently, it is your belief that " evidence " is important. And, from other messages, that evidence means the results of RCT-type experiments (a belief system, albeit a dominant one). Etymologically, " evidence " means something like " from the act of viewing/seeing " . > I am trying to get to the core importance of AP: Is it (a) the POINTS used, (b) the ORDER and METHODS USED at the same points, or © the THOUGHT/Yi/Intention/confidence used when concentrating on those points that is most important? A good, succinct morphology, but you seem to be posing it as an exclusive-or reductionism criteria. That is, you believe, or perhaps hypothesize that one and only one of these is the " core " factor. >Assuming that the points chosen are relevant to the patient's problems, my gut says © is the most important factor. But I am open to being shown to be wrong in that. Oops, your fudging already: (a) is assumed (essential?), but © is the one. Seriously, when I look at this from the framework I've been studying recently it goes like this. What energetic layer, or combination do I see as a possibility for effecting change in the patient/condition? Hence one or more channel system/layer, and the relevant points in that perspective, and implemented in order and method to elicit the response/process intended. But basically, I must admit to agreeing with you. (a) and (b) alone amounts to cookbook TCM, which, as students, we all tried hard to believe will work. In practice (and with some heavy-weight support from notable ancients, and cogent interpretations by notable contemporaries) © is the art of the medicine, applied through (a) and (b). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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