Guest guest Posted April 29, 2003 Report Share Posted April 29, 2003 Hello Par, I'm catching up on my e-mail and just read your question about psoriatic arthritis. Sorry if this has been answered already. I have been treating a 36 year old male patient for 6 months. When he first came to me he had severe joint pain of approximately 2 years duration in his elbow, knee, thumb. He was on several meds and was considering adding Bextra. The joints were noticeably swollen and warm to the touch. I diagnosed him with Liv, Ki, and Ht yin xu and WC damp transforming to internal heat. I have been treating him on the average of once a week. He is at the point of minimal joint pain and the psoriasis, which started the whole thing, is presenting all over his body. We have been at this point a number of times and each time we seem to come further, i.e. less joint pain and more rash. He certainly feels much better, is free of meds, and we are hopeful that we can get rid of the psoriasis. As long as he takes his herbs, gets acupuncture, and leads a healthy lifestyle (with the emphasis on stress reduction) he does well. We'll see. His goal when he came to me was to play soccer, and now he does that plus tennis. He is a happy camper. I hope this is helpful! Beata Booth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2003 Report Share Posted April 29, 2003 I'm catching up on my e-mail and just read your question about psoriatic arthritis. What have you been giving your patient? >>>>In general for an acute stage of wind-heat one can use jin yin hua, lei gong teng, sheng di, zhi mu, gan cao, she tui, shi hu, shi gao, chi shao, dan shen, dan pi, shui niu jiao If toxic heat: jin yin hua, pu gong ying, ban lan gaen , sheng di, zhi mu, gan cao, she tui, shi hu, shi gao, chi shao, dan shen, dan pi, shui niu jiao Damp-heat subacute/chronic: Chi shao, bai xian pi, huang bai, yi ren, cang zhu, fang ji, mu gua, sang jie, fang feng, wei ling xian Damp-heat acute: Cang zhu, huabng bai, qin jiao, bai xian pi, ku shen, yi ren, tu fu ling, qiang huo, hong hua, tao ren, ru xiang, zhu ling, chuan niu xi chronic liv k def: Sheng and Shu di, dang gui, du zhong, shan zhu yu, gou qi zi, qin jiao, qiang huo, hong hua, tao ren, ru xiang, chuan xiong wind-cold: Huang qi, gui zhi, qiang huo, dang gui, hong hua, tao ren, qin jiao, ru xiang, gan cao, di fu zi, wu shao she Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Thu May 18, 2006 9:20am(PDT) Re: grandfathering in as an doctor One of the things I find most frustrating is that we are unable to have a healthy dialogue with the medical profession. Healthy is the right word too if we think about the more subtler effects of one organ or meridian not communicating properly with another. I would dearly love to be able to ring my patient's GP and discuss possibilities so that one can work with the other, especially where medication can be reduced. MDs have no idea what we can treat and so dont take acupuncture into consideration, although I find at consultant level there seems to be more awareness, but certainly not at GP level. Nevertheless, recently I have made a very good aquaintance with an MD in toxicology who also is a homeopath. I have had some brilliant advice with regards drug interactions, including interactions between allopathic medicine and complimentary supplements the px has chosen to take at the time. They have also been very helpful with interpreting the medical prognosis derived from allopathic tests for pxs with serious illness and the type of treatments a px could expect from allopathic medicine, as well as anwering questions as to whether a px may be presenting symptoms that may be serious enough to consult with their GP. This has resulted in the MD also asking qustions regarding what acupuncture can address, and whether to recomend acupouncture to his patient for their condition. If we could get on this footing with the medical proffession, it would greatly improve our service as well as theirs. The problem is how does one set the ball rolling. Certainly there needs to be a general mutual respect, which there isnt at the present time. Regards Helene In a message dated 5/18/2006 9:42:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, don83407 writes: Soon, people will not go to MD when they have arthritis or other chronic condition, they will go to the one who is best for that condition. That is us. I wholeheartedly agree with your post. The sooner that TCM practitioners define their scope to functionally defined diagnosis codes (PME, IBS, various rheumatological disorders) the better it will be for everyone. Guy Porter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 My apologies folks, this is what comes of occaisionaly dipping in and out of the list with no time to read the thread. I see you are talking about a different type of grandfathering, so just either ignore my entry, or if you are at all inclined to comment please do but perhaps under a different heading to save you all further confusion. Regards Helene -- In Chinese Medicine , " McMUrtrie-Watson " <HENCALIBAN wrote: > > Thu May 18, 2006 9:20am(PDT) > Re: grandfathering in as an doctor > > > One of the things I find most frustrating is that we are unable to have a > healthy dialogue with the medical profession. Healthy is the right word too > if we think about the more subtler effects of one organ or meridian not > communicating properly with another. I would dearly love to be able to ring > my patient's GP and discuss possibilities so that one can work with the > other, especially where medication can be reduced. MDs have no idea what > we can treat and so dont take acupuncture into consideration, although I > find at consultant level there seems to be more awareness, but certainly not > at GP level. > > Nevertheless, recently I have made a very good aquaintance with an MD in > toxicology who also is a homeopath. I have had some brilliant advice with > regards drug interactions, including interactions between allopathic > medicine and complimentary supplements the px has chosen to take at the > time. They have also been very helpful with interpreting the medical > prognosis derived from allopathic tests for pxs with serious illness and > the type of treatments a px could expect from allopathic medicine, as well > as anwering questions as to whether a px may be presenting symptoms that > may be serious enough to consult with their GP. This has resulted in the MD > also asking qustions regarding what acupuncture can address, and whether to > recomend acupouncture to his patient for their condition. > > If we could get on this footing with the medical proffession, it would > greatly improve our service as well as theirs. The problem is how does one > set the ball rolling. Certainly there needs to be a general mutual respect, > which there isnt at the present time. > > > Regards > > Helene > > > In a message dated 5/18/2006 9:42:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > don83407 writes: > > Soon, people will not go to MD when they have arthritis or other chronic > condition, they will go to the one who is best for that condition. That is > us. > > > > > I wholeheartedly agree with your post. The sooner that TCM practitioners > define their scope to functionally defined diagnosis codes (PME, IBS, > various > rheumatological disorders) the better it will be for everyone. > > Guy Porter > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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