Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Hi All, & Lea, > Even if you are not pricking to bleed and then cupping over the area, > you can still have a small amount of blood extravasate out through the > skin. This seems to depend on the constitution of the patient, and is > unrelated to any bruising. I wash the glass cups with 4% chlorhexidine > and then wipe out with either ethanol or isopropol alcohol. Of course > this wont destroy prions, but as Im not cupping directly on the brain > or doing tonsilectomies with the cups etc, the risk should be pretty > small for creutzfeldt jacob (sp.?). One would hope, anyway. I havent > worked out what to do with the bamboo cups I brought back from China, > though. I dont think I ever saw them washed out in the hospital there. > Regards, Lea. Blood-to-blood contact is a KNOWN route of transmission of HIV and hepatitis virus. Also, there is a suspicion that blood-to-blood route may transmit prion diseases. See: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=15214 One cannot guarantee complete sterilisisation of prion material on glass or metal with any standard method. Therefore, IMO, if at all possible, instruments that thave come in contact with human blood or fluids should not be reused in other humans. IMO, being SEEN to be very strict as regards elimination of cross-infection is a most important Public Relations exercise for the AP and allied professions. Enemies of our professions will use any and all weaknesses in our procedures to quash our methods. Shoddy practices as regards risks of cross-infection, as may be seen occasionally in China and elsewhere are NOT acceptable in our societies. Best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Hi Phil Have you been to a dentist recently? They are dealing with blood (sometimes in large quantities) all the time and yet they do not use disposable instruments. I have concerns about the safety of this and other medical/surgical procedures. What my acupuncturist does is of far less concern although I agree that as professionals we have to be rigorous. The British Acupuncture Council has a full set of health and safety procedures/requirements covering all aspects of acupuncture and which members have to follow. There is no requirement for acupuncturists to become a member of a professional body at this time (in the UK) and I believe that is to the detriment of the profession as a whole and to public safety in general. Regards Susie > Blood-to-blood contact is a KNOWN route of transmission of HIV and > hepatitis virus. Also, there is a suspicion that blood-to-blood route may > transmit prion diseases. See: > http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=15214 > > One cannot guarantee complete sterilisisation of prion material > on glass or > metal with any standard method. Therefore, IMO, if at all possible, > instruments that thave come in contact with human blood or fluids should > not be reused in other humans. > > IMO, being SEEN to be very strict as regards elimination of > cross-infection > is a most important Public Relations exercise for the AP and allied > professions. Enemies of our professions will use any and all > weaknesses in > our procedures to quash our methods. > > Shoddy practices as regards risks of cross-infection, as may be seen > occasionally in China and elsewhere are NOT acceptable in our societies. > > Best regards, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Hi Susie > Hi Phil, Have you been to a dentist recently? They are dealing with > blood (sometimes in large quantities) all the time and yet they do not > use disposable instruments. I have concerns about the safety of this > and other medical/surgical procedures. I am appalled by the casual approach of the dental profession to instrument sterility. That may change soon, as a recent UK Govmt Report AT LAST recognises dentistry as a possible means of transmitting prion diseases. See: http://www.guardian.co.uk/bse/article/0,,1770568,00.html Advisers warn of vCJD risk to dental patients ¡¤ Reused instruments present 'plausible' risk - Department of Health to consider new advice James Meikle, Tuesday May 9, 2006, The Guardian: Patients undergoing routine dental treatments for root canal problems may have been exposed to infection by the human form of BSE because instruments have been previously used on patients unwittingly carrying the incurable disease, government scientific advisers said yesterday. About 3m such treatments are conducted every year in England and Wales alone. The scientists have told health ministers to consider banning the reuse of the equipment needed because of " hypothetical but plausible scenarios " which suggest that person-to person cases of variant CJD might follow the shrinking number of animal-to-human cases. Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc, c/o 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Chinese Proverb: " Man who says it can't be done, should not interrupt man doing it " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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