fertility - acupuncture to increase the eggs count

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Dear lists,

 

Has anyone of you done for fertility to increase the eggs count?

 

I have a client in her mid 40's who wants to get pregnant. Test shows that she

needs to increase the eggs count.

 

Voon

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

About a quarter of my practice is treating infertility. FSH is

required to stimulate the ovaries to release an egg. If FSH is too high

(meaning the hypothalamus is releasing more FSH to try and get the

follicle to release the egg) the woman is likely entering pari-menopause

and getting pregnant without Western intervention becomes much more

difficult. Egg count is typically only important if the woman is going

through IVF or IUI where the ovaries are artificially stimulated to

release several eggs at one to increase the odds of a successful

pregnancy.

 

Acupuncture can help the hypothalamus / pituitary / ovarian axis. I use

Zi Gong, St-29, Ren-6 and Kid-16 for this. Also Kid-3, Sp-6, Sp-8 and

LI-4. Also treat the TCM pattern as she presents.

 

For most women over 40 I recommend that they work with a Fertility

specialist in conjunction with acupuncture as their time window is small

and their odds of success to get pregnant without aid is significantly

lower than younger woman.

 

Christopher Vedeler L.Ac., C.Ht.

Oasis Acupuncture

<http://www.oasisacupuncture.com/> http://www.oasisacupuncture.com

8233 N. Via Paseo del Norte

Suite D-35

Scottsdale, AZ 85258

Phone: (480) 991-3650

Fax: (480) 247-4472

 

 

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fertility - acupuncture to increase the eggs count

 

 

Dear lists,

 

Has anyone of you done for fertility to increase the eggs count?

 

I have a client in her mid 40's who wants to get pregnant. Test shows

that she needs to increase the eggs count.

 

Voon

 

 

 

Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just

2¢/min with Messenger with Voice.

 

 

[Guest guest]

We need to work with knowledge of, and at times in cooperation with

WM fertility specialists, but also need to keep the eye on the ball

in terms of CM logic. In particular, as in NeiJing, chapter 1: it

takes surplus (qi & xue) to be able to reproduce. So diagnosis as to

the presence and degree of deficiency(s) is important. Acupuncture

can help reduce the stagnations that block nurturing/building

resources. Herbal Rx can supply raw materials, so to speak, to

actually bank qi and blood, and then possibly channel surplus thereof

into deeper levels -- yin/yang or jing, to the point that

reproduction can continue to function. (In some classical

interpretations, hormones are a form of jing.)

 

Example, a new patient last week, seeking help to conceive her 8th

(yes, eighth) child. Starting 10 years ago, she had 4 without

problem. Then in trying for more, got stuck in a 3 year period of no

success. The MD said it was over, she was approaching menopause. Then

she got pregnant again and carried 3 more successfully, back to back.

Now, about 44 y/o, no success in the last 2.5 years since the birth

of #7. And the MD is repeating the earlier position. Statistically,

that can't be faulted. But, as this history hints, the human process

is flexible, not deterministic according to the mythology of

statistics. So, I'm investigating the areas needing supplementation,

and counseling as to ways of consolidating, supporting building

resources, like cultivating resting.

 

The cultural/social melieu is so focused on yang-yang-yang that these

aspects, as perhaps self-evident as they may seem, are often near

impossible to get people to appreciate.

 

In some cases I've aided, the 40-something woman has been able to

build, conserve, conceive and bear a child. In other cases, even in

spite of the $20-40k investment which got them past the implantation

of fertilized eggs, the unwillingness or inability to yield in terms

of life-style (work/stress, etc.), the woman's body refused to go

along with the program, and miscarried. All the technology (and

money) in the world hasn't changed the foundational premise (as

expressed in the NeiJing) that the human body knows whether it has

the strength to go through with such a hugely taxing process.

 

Some may hope that a miracle drug breakthrough will be found to force

the body to go through with it. I'd guess the constitutional damage

might be significant enough to be of greater danger to the child's

further development.

 

By the way, another woman/patient is trying to go the surrogate

route, which appears to be a thriving enterprise. Agencies being

hopeful parents together with women who bear others' children

professionally. The cost is comparable ($40-50k and rising), and this

gets around the critical problem of sustaining the 9-month gestation.

 

One more datum: That book on CM and IVF, published a year or two ago

by Blue Poppy Press, by that Chinese L.Ac in San Francisco (forgot

her name, will broadcast it tomorrow, if someone else doesn't fill it

in in the mean time). Here are protocols, Atx and herbal Rx for all

phases of the IVF-aided process. My only quarrel with the book is

that the author tauts one of those phone PhD's from American Global University.