Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 I just got a letter from the school board saying all preschool children to 9th graders must be vaccinated for Hep B and Chicken Pox by Sept 06 (unless you show proof of having had chicken pox.) Well, I am still livid thinking about it. Neither one of my kids will be affected. My youngest (a 7th grader) got the Hep B because he was born in a third world country and subsequently he contracted chicken pox when he was 3 (from his sister, who was 5). If they didn't have chicken pox, I would not want them to get this vaccine. I feel the same way about Hep B. Can a school board mandate this? Do you have any research or support that I can use when I call the board and eventually write a letter to editor of the local paper. I may even request an appointment with the superintendent of schools. Any back up would be helpful. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Anne, We have three kids, 8/10/12 years old, 3rd/4th/6th grade. No immunizations for any of them and they attend public schools that " demand " full vaccination for all students. There is an exception for " religious reasons " . I sign a waiver each year for each kid that cites RELIGIOUS as the reason they are not vaccinated. What religion is that, you ask? Well, frankly, none. We just do not " believe " in immunization. Just as we do not (for the most part) " believe " in pharmaceuticals. Ask if there is not a religious exception in your State. Best regards, Mark Zaranski East Wind Acupuncture, Chesterton, Indiana 102 treatments/7 first timers/6 new consults last week Chinese Medicine , " Anne C. Crowley " <blazing.valley wrote: > > I just got a letter from the school board saying all preschool > children to 9th graders must be vaccinated for Hep B and Chicken Pox > by Sept 06 (unless you show proof of having had chicken pox.) > > Well, I am still livid thinking about it. Neither one of my kids will > be affected. My youngest (a 7th grader) got the Hep B because he was > born in a third world country and subsequently he contracted chicken > pox when he was 3 (from his sister, who was 5). If they didn't have > chicken pox, I would not want them to get this vaccine. I feel the > same way about Hep B. > > Can a school board mandate this? > > Do you have any research or support that I can use when I call the > board and eventually write a letter to editor of the local paper. I > may even request an appointment with the superintendent of schools. > Any back up would be helpful. > > Anne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 I know this is off topic, but I have been there. Yes they can mandate this, but there are two exceptions. 1. You can get an MD to write an exemption for you. They will probably want proof that your children had these conditions before they write it. The MD may want to immunize the kids anyway. 2. The second way is to go to the health department (or whatever entity your state has set up) and sign a statement that it is against your religious beliefs for you children to be immunized. In Florida, used to be that you had to belong to certain religious organizations, but now they have it set up that they are not allowed to ask. Considering that you obviously feel strongly about this topic, it is your religious belief at this point in time. I had a letter stating my daughter was allergic to the ingredients in the shots. We moved and I had lost the letter and the doctor had moved. With no where left to turn, I went to the health department and made the statement. I got a paper to give to the school. They were accepted and put in the file. I was told that if an epidemic broke out that I would be called to get my child. I told them that was a good idea. Lee Chinese Medicine Chinese MedicineOn Behalf Of Anne C. Crowley Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:48 PM Chinese Medicine Mandatory vaccinations I just got a letter from the school board saying all preschool children to 9th graders must be vaccinated for Hep B and Chicken Pox by Sept 06 (unless you show proof of having had chicken pox.) Well, I am still livid thinking about it. Neither one of my kids will be affected. My youngest (a 7th grader) got the Hep B because he was born in a third world country and subsequently he contracted chicken pox when he was 3 (from his sister, who was 5). If they didn't have chicken pox, I would not want them to get this vaccine. I feel the same way about Hep B. Can a school board mandate this? Do you have any research or support that I can use when I call the board and eventually write a letter to editor of the local paper. I may even request an appointment with the superintendent of schools. Any back up would be helpful. Anne Subscribe to the new FREE online journal for TCM at Times http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Download the all new TCM Forum Toolbar, click, http://toolbar.thebizplace.com/LandingPage.aspx/CT145145 and adjust accordingly. Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 You need to check state law... available on internet. Mothering magazine is also a good place to find resources. http://www.909shot.com/state-site/state-exemptions.htm The site has a map and list for all the states. Also (another resource): " All states provide exemptions to the vaccines. Most authorities won't reveal this to you. However, you have the legal right to exempt your children from the shots. " Research the state in question. D. Tarlo --- " Anne C. Crowley " <blazing.valley wrote: > I just got a letter from the school board saying all > preschool > children to 9th graders must be vaccinated for Hep B > and Chicken Pox > by Sept 06 (unless you show proof of having had > chicken pox.) > > Well, I am still livid thinking about it. Neither > one of my kids will > be affected. My youngest (a 7th grader) got the Hep > B because he was > born in a third world country and subsequently he > contracted chicken > pox when he was 3 (from his sister, who was 5). If > they didn't have chicken pox, I would not want them to get this vaccine. I feel the same way about Hep B. > > Can a school board mandate this? > > Do you have any research or support that I can use > when I call the board and eventually write a letter to editor of the local paper. I may even request an appointment with the superintendent of schools. > Any back up would be helpful. > > Anne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Ann, Some schools will let you opt out for religious reasons. Do a Google search and you should get tons of info on groups that support no vaccination. Good Luck, Maria Kuriloff _____ Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Anne C. Crowley Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:48 PM Chinese Medicine Mandatory vaccinations I just got a letter from the school board saying all preschool children to 9th graders must be vaccinated for Hep B and Chicken Pox by Sept 06 (unless you show proof of having had chicken pox.) Well, I am still livid thinking about it. Neither one of my kids will be affected. My youngest (a 7th grader) got the Hep B because he was born in a third world country and subsequently he contracted chicken pox when he was 3 (from his sister, who was 5). If they didn't have chicken pox, I would not want them to get this vaccine. I feel the same way about Hep B. Can a school board mandate this? Do you have any research or support that I can use when I call the board and eventually write a letter to editor of the local paper. I may even request an appointment with the superintendent of schools. Any back up would be helpful. Anne Subscribe to the new FREE online journal for TCM at Times http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Download the all new TCM Forum Toolbar, click, http://toolbar.thebizplace.com/LandingPage.aspx/CT145145 and adjust accordingly. Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 The school board is not the one in charge. Usually it is the state's health dept. Even though they mantain a position statement that it is required, most states allow for excemptions. I have never thought it wise to use these in low risk populations, such as hep B in infants. Treatment is available but most do not consider that infants are not engaged in IV drug usage or promiscuous sex (high risk groups). This is poor public policy that goes to pay for vaccines in other countries yet exposes many to unintended side-effects and possible future immune problems. There is a lot of research and major concerns about these issues that is becoming more talked about. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac >Ron & Maria Kuriloff <rmkuriloff >Chinese Medicine >Chinese Medicine >RE: Mandatory vaccinations >Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:14:01 -0500 > >Ann, >Some schools will let you opt out for religious reasons. Do a Google >search >and you should get tons of info on groups that support no vaccination. >Good Luck, >Maria Kuriloff > > _____ > >Chinese Medicine >Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Anne C. >Crowley >Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:48 PM >Chinese Medicine >Mandatory vaccinations > > >I just got a letter from the school board saying all preschool >children to 9th graders must be vaccinated for Hep B and Chicken Pox >by Sept 06 (unless you show proof of having had chicken pox.) > >Well, I am still livid thinking about it. Neither one of my kids will >be affected. My youngest (a 7th grader) got the Hep B because he was >born in a third world country and subsequently he contracted chicken >pox when he was 3 (from his sister, who was 5). If they didn't have >chicken pox, I would not want them to get this vaccine. I feel the >same way about Hep B. > >Can a school board mandate this? > >Do you have any research or support that I can use when I call the >board and eventually write a letter to editor of the local paper. I >may even request an appointment with the superintendent of schools. >Any back up would be helpful. > >Anne > > > > > >Subscribe to the new FREE online journal for TCM at Times >http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > >Download the all new TCM Forum Toolbar, click, >http://toolbar.thebizplace.com/LandingPage.aspx/CT145145 > > > and adjust >accordingly. > >Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group >requires prior permission from the author. > >Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely >necessary. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 In Australia you can either get a medical expemption from your doctor for health reasons, or you can also sign a conscientous objection form which your doctor must witness to make sure that you have been told of the reasons why your child should be vaccinated. If you get your children vaccinated then you get about $200 as an encouragement from the government when they have had all the shots. Personally, my children have been vaccinated because I travel with them, and when my son was 1 year old we went to china for a year. So in China, even though he wasnt using IV drugs or having sex, he was still at risk for hep B as it is endemic. And is also higher in prevalence in asian communities in 1st world nations. We declined the MMR vaccine though, and no option is now available for a monovalent measles vaccine in Australia. The government subsequently cancelled the rebate you get on child care because of it, until I get around to doing the conscientous objection form. I did not start the hepatitis B vaccine for either of them at birth, as I thought that was a little ridiculous, but with my youngest, who is now 3 months old, I started the hepatitis B with the first round of vaccinations, otherwise it would mean three extra shots for her later, and that just means more exposure to heavy metals used in the menstruum of the vaccines. He was too young for some of the other recommended vaccinations though, and after dealing with a patient with typhoid (I had been vaccinated, but my son wasnt) at the hospital I was studying at, my partner and I used to wash our hands in disinfectant when we got home from the hospital, the brand was " Dr. Bang " , I loved that name, probably didnt do much though. (Not to mention all the patients with TB and MDR TB, but theres not much you can do about that.) I think that if you plan to stay in one place where vaccination is the norm, then by all means take advantage of herd immunity and dont vaccinate, but if you plan to take your kids to, say, Delhi, then vaccination is not a bad idea, because polio sucks, and diptheria isnt a barrel of laughs either. (I noticed that with my youngest they are now giving polio vaccination as an injection rather than the oral dose, as apparantly the most recent polio outbreaks have been linked with the live attenuated virus being excreted through the digestive tract and infecting the immuno-compromised and unvaccinated.) Schools here (if they are public, anyway) have to respect your right not to vaccinate and the most they can do is tell your child not to attend school or daycare if there is an outbreak amongst the students. I remember when I was in high school they didnt give you a choice, they just rounded up all the girls and vaccinated us against rubella. No consent needed. Actually, on another tack, one of my classmates was vaccinated against measles before going to China where she promptly got measles from the vaccine and almost died of a measles related respiratory tract infection. So theres a good reason to give that one a miss. (Although I also knew someone who died of measles encephalitis at the age of 21 in otherwise perfect health, it only took three days too. So, even though my children wont be having the MMR, and I had measles as a child and was fine, its still a worry.) By the way, did you know that smallpox vaccination using pox from recovering victims is attributed to the chinese, before the turks? So Im told anyway... Chinese Medicine , " mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1 wrote: > > The school board is not the one in charge. Usually it is the state's health > dept. Even though they mantain a position statement that it is required, > most states allow for excemptions. I have never thought it wise to use > these in low risk populations, such as hep B in infants. Treatment is > available but most do not consider that infants are not engaged in IV drug > usage or promiscuous sex (high risk groups). This is poor public policy > that goes to pay for vaccines in other countries yet exposes many to > unintended side-effects and possible future immune problems. There is a lot > of research and major concerns about these issues that is becoming more > talked about. > > > Mike W. Bowser, L Ac > > > > > > >Ron & Maria Kuriloff <rmkuriloff > >Chinese Medicine > >Chinese Medicine > >RE: Mandatory vaccinations > >Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:14:01 -0500 > > > >Ann, > >Some schools will let you opt out for religious reasons. Do a Google > >search > >and you should get tons of info on groups that support no vaccination. > >Good Luck, > >Maria Kuriloff > > > > _____ > > > >Chinese Medicine > >Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Anne C. > >Crowley > >Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:48 PM > >Chinese Medicine > >Mandatory vaccinations > > > > > >I just got a letter from the school board saying all preschool > >children to 9th graders must be vaccinated for Hep B and Chicken Pox > >by Sept 06 (unless you show proof of having had chicken pox.) > > > >Well, I am still livid thinking about it. Neither one of my kids will > >be affected. My youngest (a 7th grader) got the Hep B because he was > >born in a third world country and subsequently he contracted chicken > >pox when he was 3 (from his sister, who was 5). If they didn't have > >chicken pox, I would not want them to get this vaccine. I feel the > >same way about Hep B. > > > >Can a school board mandate this? > > > >Do you have any research or support that I can use when I call the > >board and eventually write a letter to editor of the local paper. I > >may even request an appointment with the superintendent of schools. > >Any back up would be helpful. > > > >Anne > > > > > > > > > > > >Subscribe to the new FREE online journal for TCM at Chinese Medicine Times > >http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > >Download the all new TCM Forum Toolbar, click, > >http://toolbar.thebizplace.com/LandingPage.aspx/CT145145 > > > > > > and adjust > >accordingly. > > > >Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group > >requires prior permission from the author. > > > >Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely > >necessary. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Vaccinations are thought by many to be contributors to auto-immune diseases. I'm currently fighting a mild case of one of the latter, and feel fortunate that I didn't have as many vaccinations as are currently being recommended. I am having some great success with acupuncture and herbs in turning the tide in my own health, as well as reading much of what largely British and Canadian organizations are putting together on these issues. Like most health issues, one must be one's own best advocate - and for one's family and community. There are plenty of organizations out there who feel quite free to fight for their own interests (short- or long-term) without much thought or even care for your interests - and what's fair is fair. Just ask any of these organizations who wish to legislate or govern your choices if they have contracts that declare they will take full financial responsibility for any possible health effects and cover all possible loss of wages, plus compensation for pain and suffering, due to what they are asking you to do. In the interest of full disclosure, ask if they are aware of these possibilities and if they will provide full disclosure in all cases so that others can be made aware of these possibilities and theories - and ask for a fair public hearing (with press) and open discussion. Better yet, try to contact some of the advocates of your position to see if they are interested in helping with information and/or references. Just speculating on such steps - out loud - will help you if you feel pressured. Many of the people you deal with may have never heard of alternatives and risks. You could be doing them and the others who might be unwittingly affected a favor. Also, empowering people to think they have the right to ask questions about what and why they are being told to do something isn't a bad thing. The Mothering states' laws lists and possible allergic responses (read an ingredient label to a vaccine) and medical reasons are good suggestions. Unfortunately, some people need to see you won't go along easily before they will treat you and your views with respect. Interestingly enough, it was an M.D. who greatly supported and taught me some of these tactics. Some of the worst effects on health come out of things not fully understood or accepted. Best wishes, -- Catherine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Dear colleague I read your opinions about vaccination today. I remember this invaluable sentence that " New ideas first resisted by hard waves , then become evaluated and finally accepted as a firm and inchangable rules! " Before learning TCM I believed that classic western medicine is the only way to treat my patients. I don`t forget that little boy who had acute lymphoblastic leukemia and in last course of his successful chemotherapy his parents rejected any chemical therapy and tried energy therapy , but he died . When I saw acupuncture how can treat facial pulsy in my another patient , I believed that medicine is a complex art .You can draw a simple drawing by pencil or build a big house. But when you combine these two along many other arts , it became a palace. Dear Anne I accept that acupuncture has a well known effect on immunity , I believe it is natural with few side effects and I see it how wonders when classic medicine has no offer for chronic fatigue. But I also see and believe that this was classic western medicine which eradicated pox , polio and controled malaria , tuberculosis and leprosy.China is mother of TCM but really are it`s health conditions better than USA ? I think medicine is a puzzle , TCM fills some parts of it and chemical drugs and vaccines fill another parts . Remember that vaccine is a natural product of viral or bacterial extracts with adjuants which intesifies its antigenic effect . Remember that heavy metals are toxic in high doses and new vaccines are free from mercury.( Engerix vaccine for HBV ). Remember that every thing may have side effects, when my acupuncture needle acuses pneumothorax , this is modern medicine which saves my patient.But the important point is cost benefit of your method . Small pox vaccine really saved lives of many children with leukemia who infected and HBV vaccine caused decrease in chronic HBV , Cirrhosis and hepatocellular carcinoma which all of them are prevalent in china and TCM cann`t decrease them. I fear if we deny such real effects of western medicine , we return to 1000 years ago and destroy hard works of Pasteur , Kokh, Fleming ,etc. So come to a joining of both technic in medicine , vaccinate your children comfortably and use TCM to fill pitfalls of western medicine. With best regards to all of you , Behzad Goharfar , MD , Pediatrician catherineburr wrote: Vaccinations are thought by many to be contributors to auto-immune diseases. I'm currently fighting a mild case of one of the latter, and feel fortunate that I didn't have as many vaccinations as are currently being recommended. I am having some great success with acupuncture and herbs in turning the tide in my own health, as well as reading much of what largely British and Canadian organizations are putting together on these issues. Like most health issues, one must be one's own best advocate - and for one's family and community. There are plenty of organizations out there who feel quite free to fight for their own interests (short- or long-term) without much thought or even care for your interests - and what's fair is fair. Just ask any of these organizations who wish to legislate or govern your choices if they have contracts that declare they will take full financial responsibility for any possible health effects and cover all possible loss of wages, plus compensation for pain and suffering, due to what they are asking you to do. In the interest of full disclosure, ask if they are aware of these possibilities and if they will provide full disclosure in all cases so that others can be made aware of these possibilities and theories - and ask for a fair public hearing (with press) and open discussion. Better yet, try to contact some of the advocates of your position to see if they are interested in helping with information and/or references. Just speculating on such steps - out loud - will help you if you feel pressured. Many of the people you deal with may have never heard of alternatives and risks. You could be doing them and the others who might be unwittingly affected a favor. Also, empowering people to think they have the right to ask questions about what and why they are being told to do something isn't a bad thing. The Mothering states' laws lists and possible allergic responses (read an ingredient label to a vaccine) and medical reasons are good suggestions. Unfortunately, some people need to see you won't go along easily before they will treat you and your views with respect. Interestingly enough, it was an M.D. who greatly supported and taught me some of these tactics. Some of the worst effects on health come out of things not fully understood or accepted. Best wishes, -- Catherine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 I believe the idea of vaccinations was invented by doctors in China hundreds of years ago. WM has advanced from watching and learning from folk medicine and Chinese medicine has done the same. It's all swings and roundabouts, there is no real divide or difference. Warm regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) B.Sc. (Hons) T.C.M. M.A.T.C.M. Editor Times +44 (0) 208 367 8378 enquiries <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of behzad goharfar 18 March 2006 22:48 Chinese Medicine RE: Mandatory vaccinations Dear colleague I read your opinions about vaccination today. I remember this invaluable sentence that " New ideas first resisted by hard waves , then become evaluated and finally accepted as a firm and inchangable rules! " Before learning TCM I believed that classic western medicine is the only way to treat my patients. I don`t forget that little boy who had acute lymphoblastic leukemia and in last course of his successful chemotherapy his parents rejected any chemical therapy and tried energy therapy , but he died . When I saw acupuncture how can treat facial pulsy in my another patient , I believed that medicine is a complex art .You can draw a simple drawing by pencil or build a big house. But when you combine these two along many other arts , it became a palace. Dear Anne I accept that acupuncture has a well known effect on immunity , I believe it is natural with few side effects and I see it how wonders when classic medicine has no offer for chronic fatigue. But I also see and believe that this was classic western medicine which eradicated pox , polio and controled malaria , tuberculosis and leprosy.China is mother of TCM but really are it`s health conditions better than USA ? I think medicine is a puzzle , TCM fills some parts of it and chemical drugs and vaccines fill another parts . Remember that vaccine is a natural product of viral or bacterial extracts with adjuants which intesifies its antigenic effect . Remember that heavy metals are toxic in high doses and new vaccines are free from mercury.( Engerix vaccine for HBV ). Remember that every thing may have side effects, when my acupuncture needle acuses pneumothorax , this is modern medicine which saves my patient.But the important point is cost benefit of your method . Small pox vaccine really saved lives of many children with leukemia who infected and HBV vaccine caused decrease in chronic HBV , Cirrhosis and hepatocellular carcinoma which all of them are prevalent in china and TCM cann`t decrease them. I fear if we deny such real effects of western medicine , we return to 1000 years ago and destroy hard works of Pasteur , Kokh, Fleming ,etc. So come to a joining of both technic in medicine , vaccinate your children comfortably and use TCM to fill pitfalls of western medicine. With best regards to all of you , Behzad Goharfar , MD , Pediatrician Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 There are many things wrong with the current state of healthcare in many countries and politics as well as ego get in the way. You mentioned, " classic western medicine which eradicated pox , polio and controled malaria , tuberculosis and leprosy " as being proof that western medicine has worked. We should set the record straight that polio has again been showing its face in those patienst who have been vaccinated and strongly connected with the MMR vaccine. In many third world countries, malaria is still very common even those with western drugs. TB is a huge and growing concern not only for China but many industrialized countries as a result of more global population movements. Do not know about leprosy though but wanted to make a statement that we need to get better educated both from a public health perspective and also one of environmental understanding. Until we know more about our own body and how it is impacted by our environment we will continue to play the hit and miss game and be at the mercy of other groups. By the way, Pasteur did not initially believe in germ theory, it was Beachamp who convinced him. I do agree with you about the need to work toward a more honest medical understanding but we have a lot to think about. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac >behzad goharfar <behzad_goharfar >Chinese Medicine >Chinese Medicine >RE: Mandatory vaccinations >Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:48:19 -0800 (PST) > >Dear colleague > I read your opinions about vaccination today. > I remember this invaluable sentence that " New ideas first > resisted by hard waves , then become evaluated and finally > accepted as a firm and inchangable rules! " > Before learning TCM I believed that classic western medicine > is the only way to treat my patients. I don`t forget that little boy > who had acute lymphoblastic leukemia and in last course of his > successful chemotherapy his parents rejected any chemical > therapy and tried energy therapy , but he died . > When I saw acupuncture how can treat facial pulsy in my another > patient , I believed that medicine is a complex art .You can draw > a simple drawing by pencil or build a big house. But when you > combine these two along many other arts , it became a palace. > Dear Anne I accept that acupuncture has a well known effect > on immunity , I believe it is natural with few side effects and I see > it how wonders when classic medicine has no offer for chronic fatigue. > But I also see and believe that this was classic western medicine > which eradicated pox , polio and controled malaria , tuberculosis and > leprosy.China is mother of TCM but really are it`s health >conditions > better than USA ? > I think medicine is a puzzle , TCM fills some parts of it and chemical > drugs and vaccines fill another parts . Remember that vaccine is a > natural product of viral or bacterial extracts with adjuants which >intesifies > its antigenic effect . Remember that heavy metals are toxic in high >doses > and new vaccines are free from mercury.( Engerix vaccine for HBV ). > Remember that every thing may have side effects, when my acupuncture > needle acuses pneumothorax , this is modern medicine which saves my > patient.But the important point is cost benefit of your method . > Small pox vaccine really saved lives of many children with leukemia >who > infected and HBV vaccine caused decrease in chronic HBV , Cirrhosis >and hepatocellular carcinoma which all of them are prevalent in china and >TCM > cann`t decrease them. > I fear if we deny such real effects of western medicine , we return >to > 1000 years ago and destroy hard works of Pasteur , Kokh, Fleming ,etc. > So come to a joining of both technic in medicine , vaccinate your >children > comfortably and use TCM to fill pitfalls of western medicine. > With best regards to all of you , > Behzad Goharfar , MD , Pediatrician > >catherineburr wrote: > Vaccinations are thought by many to be contributors to auto-immune >diseases. I'm currently fighting a mild case of one of the latter, and >feel fortunate that I didn't have as many vaccinations as are currently >being recommended. > >I am having some great success with acupuncture and herbs in turning the >tide in my own health, as well as reading much of what largely British and >Canadian organizations are putting together on these issues. > >Like most health issues, one must be one's own best advocate - and for >one's family and community. There are plenty of organizations out there >who feel quite free to fight for their own interests (short- or long-term) >without much thought or even care for your interests - and what's fair is >fair. > >Just ask any of these organizations who wish to legislate or govern your >choices if they have contracts that declare they will take full financial >responsibility for any possible health effects and cover all possible loss >of wages, plus compensation for pain and suffering, due to what they are >asking you to do. In the interest of full disclosure, ask if they are >aware of these possibilities and if they will provide full disclosure in >all cases so that others can be made aware of these possibilities and >theories - and ask for a fair public hearing (with press) and open >discussion. Better yet, try to contact some of the advocates of your >position to see if they are interested in helping with information and/or >references. Just speculating on such steps - out loud - will help you if >you feel pressured. > >Many of the people you deal with may have never heard of alternatives and >risks. You could be doing them and the others who might be unwittingly >affected a favor. Also, empowering people to think they have the right to >ask questions about what and why they are being told to do something isn't >a bad thing. > >The Mothering states' laws lists and possible allergic responses (read an >ingredient label to a vaccine) and medical reasons are good suggestions. > >Unfortunately, some people need to see you won't go along easily before >they will treat you and your views with respect. Interestingly enough, it >was an M.D. who greatly supported and taught me some of these tactics. >Some of the worst effects on health come out of things not fully understood >or accepted. > >Best wishes, >-- Catherine > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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