RE:TCM-Re:TCM- Asian Med popularity / holistic MD's vs. good MD's

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I truly apologize, Attilio!

 

 

--- Attilio D'Alberto

<attiliodalberto wrote:

 

> Dear Lynn,

>

> I'm afraid this post goes against the rules of

> the group. We had a poll last

> year about what should and what should not be

> discussed on this forum and

> speaking badly about WM was not voted against.

> See the poll section of the

> group for more info.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Attilio D'Alberto

> Doctor of (Beijing, China)

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> On Behalf Of J. Lynn

> Detamore

> 21 February 2006 05:18

> To:

> Chinese Medicine

> Re:TCM- Asian Med popularity /

> holistic MD's vs. good MD's

>

>

>

> I watch out for many of " those " MD's.

> Unfortunately, many of them are not good

> doctors.

>

> The only such MD in my county, Jan Radzik, is

> not

> a great doctor, at all. Besides my practice, I

> work at the nearest hospital as a Telemetry

> Technician. It is pretty bad when nurses are

> worried when he is the patient's doctor.

> Fortunately, since the hospitalist program

> began,

> I have rarely seen him in house. He has an ego

> that does not quit, and he really cannot stand

> our kind. He will also talk patient's ears off

> as

> to how much better he is than every other

> doctor.

> He is one of those European-trained docs who

> likes medicine Integrate as long as only the

> MD's

> are doing the integraing. Wow, are they all

> like

> that, those of you who live in Europe, are they

> all so egotistical?

>

> Dr Radzik said, when a hospital co-worker

> pointed

> out what else I do for a living, was rude. He

> suddenly turned, just slightly, and leaned in

> toward her. He was clearly no longer speaking

> to

> both of us. " My one concern about acupuncturist

> is, are they using clean needles? " I just

> smiled

> to myself, and thought, You just showed your

> true

> colors, didn't you?

>

> The first such doc I knew was Norman Zucker in

> Federal Way, Washington. He actually had his

> license revoked while I and my partner were his

> patients. Fortunately, I can read b/w lines

> very

> well, and when his brochure stated that he no

> longer practiced hospital medicine b/c it did

> not

> fit in with his philosophy, I thought, right,

> they just won't let you. I was right, not b/c

> he

> was not nice, not b/c he seemed like a bad guy,

> I

> just read b/w the lines. He could not even

> reapply for Washington license for ten years. I

> actually obtained copies of the Revocation

> Notice

> and the Statement of Charges. The charges

> included abandonment of hospital patients. It

> is

> not legal or ethical to leave for the weekend

> and

> not sign out to another doctor in your call

> group. He has not been licensed in Washington

> since 1990, I just checked that board's site.

>

> Close to where I am now, just last year, an MD

> who advertises as the doctor who listens, Fred

> Mitchell, was disciplined and has to have

> practice superivision for, I believe, five

> years.

> He was prescribing massive doses of

> aceteminophen, and the Board also limited the

> amt

> the doses of Tylenol that he may prescribe.

>

> I have an MD internist. When I broach whether

> or

> not or not he would be willing to sign next

> year

> so that I could get say, Tararaxacum leaf

> standardized extract, reimbursed from my

> healthcare account, I know that he will frown,

> or

> have some such reaction. Hmm, I have no Flex

> Healthcare account this year, maybe if I start

> this soon, he would sign for next year if it

> was

> working well. See, since I am already on strong

> diuretic therapy, even transitioning so that I

> am

> take part pharmaceutical-part botanical will

> require extra labs taken and medical

> supervision.

> Hmm, maybe I should broach this when I go in

> next

> month...

>

> My bottom line is, I would rather have a good

> MD/DO than a doc with holistic leanings, any

> day.

> I want him/her to be good at what they do.

> Often,

> people have to pick good MD or holistic MD.

>

> In altmed schools and companies, there seems to

> be habit of using unlicensed MD's for

> consulting

> and teaching. I do not know why this is so, but

> when a doc has a non-renewed or surrendered

> license, it means bad things. I have on my

> agenda

> to write for a copy of the surrender notice for

> one such MD being used in such a capacity right

> now. There are probably folks reading this who

> have taken classes from him, in fact.

>

> Btw, I would not usually quote names, as I have

> above, except in the last case. However, I

> believe in letting folks know about dangerous

> doc's, especially when they are popular in

> holistic circles. Also to be fair to my good

> doc,

> not at all a dangerous sort, his name is Craig

> Thornton. One very important point - he trusts

> his patient's perceptions highly. This is so

> important to good medicine of any brand. I saw

> him once when my old doc was out of the office,

> and this is a key reason I returned to him when

> she moved out of town.

>

> Lynn

>

>

> --- Anne Crowley <blazing.valley

> wrote:

>

> > I agreee with Zev's comments completely. We

> will lose if we are in competition with WM. WM

> has a place, emergeny care. My first window of

> healing is alternative care, and I will even go

> to an MD that leans this way (however most are

> no

> where near my house)...

>

>

 

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