Re:TCM- Asian Med popularity / holistic MD's vs. good MD's

[Guest guest]

I watch out for many of " those " MD's.

Unfortunately, many of them are not good doctors.

 

The only such MD in my county, Jan Radzik, is not

a great doctor, at all. Besides my practice, I

work at the nearest hospital as a Telemetry

Technician. It is pretty bad when nurses are

worried when he is the patient's doctor.

Fortunately, since the hospitalist program began,

I have rarely seen him in house. He has an ego

that does not quit, and he really cannot stand

our kind. He will also talk patient's ears off as

to how much better he is than every other doctor.

He is one of those European-trained docs who

likes medicine Integrate as long as only the MD's

are doing the integraing. Wow, are they all like

that, those of you who live in Europe, are they

all so egotistical?

 

Dr Radzik said, when a hospital co-worker pointed

out what else I do for a living, was rude. He

suddenly turned, just slightly, and leaned in

toward her. He was clearly no longer speaking to

both of us. " My one concern about acupuncturist

is, are they using clean needles? " I just smiled

to myself, and thought, You just showed your true

colors, didn't you?

 

The first such doc I knew was Norman Zucker in

Federal Way, Washington. He actually had his

license revoked while I and my partner were his

patients. Fortunately, I can read b/w lines very

well, and when his brochure stated that he no

longer practiced hospital medicine b/c it did not

fit in with his philosophy, I thought, right,

they just won't let you. I was right, not b/c he

was not nice, not b/c he seemed like a bad guy, I

just read b/w the lines. He could not even

reapply for Washington license for ten years. I

actually obtained copies of the Revocation Notice

and the Statement of Charges. The charges

included abandonment of hospital patients. It is

not legal or ethical to leave for the weekend and

not sign out to another doctor in your call

group. He has not been licensed in Washington

since 1990, I just checked that board's site.

 

Close to where I am now, just last year, an MD

who advertises as the doctor who listens, Fred

Mitchell, was disciplined and has to have

practice superivision for, I believe, five years.

He was prescribing massive doses of

aceteminophen, and the Board also limited the amt

the doses of Tylenol that he may prescribe.

 

I have an MD internist. When I broach whether or

not or not he would be willing to sign next year

so that I could get say, Tararaxacum leaf

standardized extract, reimbursed from my

healthcare account, I know that he will frown, or

have some such reaction. Hmm, I have no Flex

Healthcare account this year, maybe if I start

this soon, he would sign for next year if it was

working well. See, since I am already on strong

diuretic therapy, even transitioning so that I am

take part pharmaceutical-part botanical will

require extra labs taken and medical supervision.

Hmm, maybe I should broach this when I go in next

month...

 

My bottom line is, I would rather have a good

MD/DO than a doc with holistic leanings, any day.

I want him/her to be good at what they do. Often,

people have to pick good MD or holistic MD.

 

In altmed schools and companies, there seems to

be habit of using unlicensed MD's for consulting

and teaching. I do not know why this is so, but

when a doc has a non-renewed or surrendered

license, it means bad things. I have on my agenda

to write for a copy of the surrender notice for

one such MD being used in such a capacity right

now. There are probably folks reading this who

have taken classes from him, in fact.

 

Btw, I would not usually quote names, as I have

above, except in the last case. However, I

believe in letting folks know about dangerous

doc's, especially when they are popular in

holistic circles. Also to be fair to my good doc,

not at all a dangerous sort, his name is Craig

Thornton. One very important point - he trusts

his patient's perceptions highly. This is so

important to good medicine of any brand. I saw

him once when my old doc was out of the office,

and this is a key reason I returned to him when

she moved out of town.

 

Lynn

 

 

--- Anne Crowley <blazing.valley

wrote:

 

> I agreee with Zev's comments completely. We

will lose if we are in competition with WM. WM

has a place, emergeny care. My first window of

healing is alternative care, and I will even go

to an MD that leans this way (however most are no

where near my house)...

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm afraid this post goes against the rules of the group. We had a poll last

year about what should and what should not be discussed on this forum and

speaking badly about WM was not voted against. See the poll section of the

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Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of J. Lynn

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21 February 2006 05:18

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Re:TCM- Asian Med popularity / holistic MD's vs. good MD's

 

 

 

I watch out for many of " those " MD's.

Unfortunately, many of them are not good doctors.

 

The only such MD in my county, Jan Radzik, is not

a great doctor, at all. Besides my practice, I

work at the nearest hospital as a Telemetry

Technician. It is pretty bad when nurses are

worried when he is the patient's doctor.

Fortunately, since the hospitalist program began,

I have rarely seen him in house. He has an ego

that does not quit, and he really cannot stand

our kind. He will also talk patient's ears off as

to how much better he is than every other doctor.

He is one of those European-trained docs who

likes medicine Integrate as long as only the MD's

are doing the integraing. Wow, are they all like

that, those of you who live in Europe, are they

all so egotistical?

 

Dr Radzik said, when a hospital co-worker pointed

out what else I do for a living, was rude. He

suddenly turned, just slightly, and leaned in

toward her. He was clearly no longer speaking to

both of us. " My one concern about acupuncturist

is, are they using clean needles? " I just smiled

to myself, and thought, You just showed your true

colors, didn't you?

 

The first such doc I knew was Norman Zucker in

Federal Way, Washington. He actually had his

license revoked while I and my partner were his

patients. Fortunately, I can read b/w lines very

well, and when his brochure stated that he no

longer practiced hospital medicine b/c it did not

fit in with his philosophy, I thought, right,

they just won't let you. I was right, not b/c he

was not nice, not b/c he seemed like a bad guy, I

just read b/w the lines. He could not even

reapply for Washington license for ten years. I

actually obtained copies of the Revocation Notice

and the Statement of Charges. The charges

included abandonment of hospital patients. It is

not legal or ethical to leave for the weekend and

not sign out to another doctor in your call

group. He has not been licensed in Washington

since 1990, I just checked that board's site.

 

Close to where I am now, just last year, an MD

who advertises as the doctor who listens, Fred

Mitchell, was disciplined and has to have

practice superivision for, I believe, five years.

He was prescribing massive doses of

aceteminophen, and the Board also limited the amt

the doses of Tylenol that he may prescribe.

 

I have an MD internist. When I broach whether or

not or not he would be willing to sign next year

so that I could get say, Tararaxacum leaf

standardized extract, reimbursed from my

healthcare account, I know that he will frown, or

have some such reaction. Hmm, I have no Flex

Healthcare account this year, maybe if I start

this soon, he would sign for next year if it was

working well. See, since I am already on strong

diuretic therapy, even transitioning so that I am

take part pharmaceutical-part botanical will

require extra labs taken and medical supervision.

Hmm, maybe I should broach this when I go in next

month...

 

My bottom line is, I would rather have a good

MD/DO than a doc with holistic leanings, any day.

I want him/her to be good at what they do. Often,

people have to pick good MD or holistic MD.

 

In altmed schools and companies, there seems to

be habit of using unlicensed MD's for consulting

and teaching. I do not know why this is so, but

when a doc has a non-renewed or surrendered

license, it means bad things. I have on my agenda

to write for a copy of the surrender notice for

one such MD being used in such a capacity right

now. There are probably folks reading this who

have taken classes from him, in fact.

 

Btw, I would not usually quote names, as I have

above, except in the last case. However, I

believe in letting folks know about dangerous

doc's, especially when they are popular in

holistic circles. Also to be fair to my good doc,

not at all a dangerous sort, his name is Craig

Thornton. One very important point - he trusts

his patient's perceptions highly. This is so

important to good medicine of any brand. I saw

him once when my old doc was out of the office,

and this is a key reason I returned to him when

she moved out of town.

 

Lynn

 

 

--- Anne Crowley <blazing.valley

wrote:

 

> I agreee with Zev's comments completely. We

will lose if we are in competition with WM. WM

has a place, emergeny care. My first window of

healing is alternative care, and I will even go

to an MD that leans this way (however most are no

where near my house)...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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