entry level exams & board certification

[Guest guest]

Personally, if I took that exam once, I would re-up no matter what state

said. In my state, you don't need it but I took it. It was a challenge

for me since I studied five element. I even had to learn their language

on 5E, what little there was of it. I spent 8 months studying for it,

was one of the last to leave, but made it through the first time. I

challenged a few questions that were clearly wrong, or had multiple

answers. I really wish someone with test writing abilities would write

that exam. Maybe some former teachers who are acupuncturists.

 

Anne

 

ra6151 wrote:

 

>

> In a message dated 2/12/06 4:44:26 PM, tryfan writes:

>

>

> > If you let the certification lapse and NY later requires the exam for

> > herbal prescriptions, do you have to retake the exam?

> > Karen

> >

>

> Well I'm not an expert on the requirements, but I don't think you'd

> have to

> re-take the exam unless the certification had been lapsed for a very

> long time.

> If you look at the NCCAOM website, you will see that there are

> provisions

> to reinstate certification after if has lapsed. Everyone who has

> questions

> should look at the site and make sure they understand what it says.

> You also

> have to know what your own state requires, since the state

> requirements are

> different. Some states require NCCAOM certification, and some don't,

> and some

> states, like CA have their own requirements.

> --RoseAnne

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/12/2006 6:21:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

blazing.valley writes:

 

Personally, if I took that exam once, I would re-up no matter what state

said. In my state, you don't need it but I took it.

 

 

You may do what you like, I know the MD's do not pay a fee after taking the

USMLE nor do the DO's after taking the COMLEX USA.

Maybe AP's should because of the much higher pay that they earn. After all

what is a few hundred dollars maybe it should be raised to a few thousand

dollars.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

oh, honey, amen amen

 

Anne Crowley wrote:

 

>Personally, if I took that exam once, I would re-up no matter what state

>said. In my state, you don't need it but I took it. It was a challenge

>for me since I studied five element. I even had to learn their language

>on 5E, what little there was of it. I spent 8 months studying for it,

>was one of the last to leave, but made it through the first time. I

>challenged a few questions that were clearly wrong, or had multiple

>answers. I really wish someone with test writing abilities would write

>that exam. Maybe some former teachers who are acupuncturists.

>

>Anne

>

>ra6151 wrote:

>

>

>

>>In a message dated 2/12/06 4:44:26 PM, tryfan writes:

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>>If you let the certification lapse and NY later requires the exam for

>>>herbal prescriptions, do you have to retake the exam?

>>>Karen

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>Well I'm not an expert on the requirements, but I don't think you'd

>>have to

>>re-take the exam unless the certification had been lapsed for a very

>>long time.

>> If you look at the NCCAOM website, you will see that there are

>>provisions

>>to reinstate certification after if has lapsed. Everyone who has

>>questions

>>should look at the site and make sure they understand what it says.

>>You also

>>have to know what your own state requires, since the state

>>requirements are

>>different. Some states require NCCAOM certification, and some don't,

>>and some

>>states, like CA have their own requirements.

>>--RoseAnne

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/13/2006 4:26:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,

KarateStan writes:

You may do what you like, I know the MD's do not pay a fee after taking the

USMLE nor do the DO's after taking the COMLEX USA.

Maybe AP's should because of the much higher pay that they earn. After all

what is a few hundred dollars maybe it should be raised to a few thousand

dollars.

Thats a sure way along with everything else to put the APs right out of

practice. Starve them by discriminatory non-reimbursement practices and tax them

to

extinction.

 

No sarcasm....just the truth.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/13/2006 10:21:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

acudoc11 writes:

 

Thats a sure way along with everything else to put the APs right out of

practice. Starve them by discriminatory non-reimbursement practices and tax

them to

extinction.

 

 

 

A some level that is what is being done.

Some already stated it was good to pay fees every few years to the NCCAOM,

thinking it was great.

Look at MD's, DO's, Nurses, do they pay fees every few years to their

testing board, I think not.

So the only reasons I can think of are:

We make to much money

We charge to much

We feel guilty about our great wealth

 

If that is the case:

Raise the NCCAOM fees - we will feel better

Lower insurance reimbursements - less wealth we will feel better

Charge less for our services after all we are not " PHYSICIAN'S "

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/13/2006 1:30:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

naturaldoc1 writes:

 

It makes some sense to use them for the written but not

continue to force membership as a condition of licensure. To continue with

this irregular behavior could create future issues as to professional

conflicts and state regulatory agencies. What do others think?

 

 

 

It makes a lot of sense to me.

I have heard from others that they are acting like lobbyist, that is not

what that are there for (they are a testing board), and that is not part of

their charter. I believe that have crossed that fine line, we need to push them

back.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Mike

 

That legislated activity.....many legally minded....would call

'unlawful'.....albeit at the moment legal because it says so in those state

statutes.

 

There are many laws that are on the books but have never been challenged.

Doesn't make them lawful.

 

If you can change them peacefully - great....but the bet is that those orgs

will fight you tooth and nail when their monopoly begins to unravel.

 

Richard

 

This thread has brought up some interesting and somewhat confusing points or

 

conflict of interest between a national organization, and what it's

role should be in regards to licensing. To be honest, I have asked our

state association as well to look at eliminating this req from future

legislation. It makes some sense to use them for the written but not

continue to force membership as a condition of licensure. To continue with

this irregular behavior could create future issues as to professional

conflicts and state regulatory agencies. What do others think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

This thread has brought up some interesting and somewhat confusing points or

conflict of interest between a national organization, NCCAOM, and what it's

role should be in regards to licensing. To be honest, I have asked our

state association as well to look at eliminating this req from future

legislation. It makes some sense to use them for the written but not

continue to force membership as a condition of licensure. To continue with

this irregular behavior could create future issues as to professional

conflicts and state regulatory agencies. What do others think?

 

 

 

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

 

 

 

 

>KarateStan

>Chinese Medicine

>Chinese Medicine

>Re: Re: Re: Re: entry level exams & board

>certification

>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:54:42 EST

>

>

>In a message dated 2/13/2006 10:21:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

>acudoc11 writes:

>

>Thats a sure way along with everything else to put the APs right out of

>practice. Starve them by discriminatory non-reimbursement practices and

>tax

>them to

>extinction.

>

>

>

>A some level that is what is being done.

>Some already stated it was good to pay fees every few years to the NCCAOM,

>thinking it was great.

>Look at MD's, DO's, Nurses, do they pay fees every few years to their

>testing board, I think not.

>So the only reasons I can think of are:

>We make to much money

>We charge to much

>We feel guilty about our great wealth

>

>If that is the case:

>Raise the NCCAOM fees - we will feel better

>Lower insurance reimbursements - less wealth we will feel better

>Charge less for our services after all we are not " PHYSICIAN'S "

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Or have them investigated for their organizational structure.

 

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

 

 

 

 

>KarateStan

>Chinese Medicine

>Chinese Medicine

>Re: Re: Re: Re: entry level exams & board

>certification

>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:48:55 EST

>

>

>In a message dated 2/13/2006 1:30:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

>naturaldoc1 writes:

>

>It makes some sense to use them for the written but not

>continue to force membership as a condition of licensure. To continue

>with

>this irregular behavior could create future issues as to professional

>conflicts and state regulatory agencies. What do others think?

>

>

>

>It makes a lot of sense to me.

>I have heard from others that they are acting like lobbyist, that is not

>what that are there for (they are a testing board), and that is not part of

>their charter. I believe that have crossed that fine line, we need to push

>them

>back.

>

>

>