TCM - entry level exams & board certification

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In a message dated 2/12/06 1:14:04 PM, tryfan writes:

 

 

> so it looks like, if I chose to not keep up

> w/NCCAOM, that won't affect my license.   Hmmmm again...

>

 

Such is the case in New York State. Although it seems to be a little known

fact, it is not necessary to renew NCCAOM certification when one renews one's

license every three years. Of course, for herbal practice, one may want to

advertise as " board certified " and then one would need to keep the

certification current. But just to legally practice acupuncture (and herbs too

I guess

since there is no license for that at the present time) one only needs to pay

the state and renew the state license. In New York State there are NO

REQUIREMENTS for continuing education units to renew the license.

 

I found this out recently through a series of e-mails to NCCAOM.

 

---RoseAnne S.

 

 

 

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There are two aspects to this. One is that one needs to have NCCAOM to move

to another state in most any case, so in some ways it pays to keep it up to

date or at least to let them know that you are putting it on hold in case you

decide to re-up in the future (and do all the back CEU's and pay past fees,

which

is probabaly better than going back to school to come up to 20 years from

nows standards and take the exam all over) becaseu your spouise got transferred

or you decide to retire to a warmer place, and the other is that some (or most)

states have let the NCCAOM take care of CEU rigamarole to reduce their

overhead.

Is there anyone from FAOMRA on this list who can clarify this further?

David MOlony

 

In a message dated 2/12/06 1:13:56 PM, tryfan writes:

 

 

> Richard - that's very interesting.  I just reviewed MA laws and the

> requirements for licensure are to take the NCCAOM exam, not to maintain

> membership with NCCAOM, nor is there any provision if NCCAOM decides to

> revoke their certificate (which is not mine, as they very clearly stated

> during the tests, despite the $2000+ it cost me to get the blamed

> thing).  There are no references to NCCAOM connections in order to renew

> one's license.  Hmmmm...  so it looks like, if I chose to not keep up

> w/NCCAOM, that won't affect my license.   Hmmmm again...

> karen

>

> acudoc11 wrote:

>

> >Timothy

> >

> >I took a personal stand and dropped renewing. It never did anything for me

> or

> >other licensees in Florida.

> >

> >The fact that this org is BOTH in the entry level testing AND the so-called

> >Board Certification never sat right with a lot of practitioners. They

> EITHER

> >are in the entry level testing OR in Board Certification.

> >

> >Respected Board Certification in just about every other health care

> >profession REQUIRES one to go back to school and take ANOTHER test. What

> kind of Board

> >Certification is given if you simply PAY and extra few hundred dollars upon

> >simultaneously taking the entry level test???

> >

> >Richard

> >

> >

> >

> >In a message dated 2/12/2006 2:37:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> >jellyphish writes:

> >Richard,

> >It does make you wonder. When you see your fellow classmates who have

> >been studying several hours of everyday on top of already busy schedules

> >hear this news (as i did), it makes your heart heavy. This is absolutely

> >rediculous and frankly makes me embarrased to be associated with the

> >organisation. I have never once heard of any medical test having this

> >problem, not once, but twice!? And they are so cold in their response,

> >and the timing is incredulous...it is extremely frustrating.

> >Tymothy

> >

> >Make's  you kind of wonder, doesn't it?

> >

> >

> >

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Some states and some insurance companies require Board Certification.

Maria Kuriloff

NYS

 

_____

 

Chinese Medicine

Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of

acuman1

Sunday, February 12, 2006 2:42 PM

Chinese Medicine

Re: Re: entry level exams & board certification

 

 

There are two aspects to this. One is that one needs to have NCCAOM to move

to another state in most any case, so in some ways it pays to keep it up to

date or at least to let them know that you are putting it on hold in case

you

decide to re-up in the future (and do all the back CEU's and pay past fees,

which

is probabaly better than going back to school to come up to 20 years from

nows standards and take the exam all over) becaseu your spouise got

transferred

or you decide to retire to a warmer place, and the other is that some (or

most)

states have let the NCCAOM take care of CEU rigamarole to reduce their

overhead.

Is there anyone from FAOMRA on this list who can clarify this further?

David MOlony

 

In a message dated 2/12/06 1:13:56 PM, tryfan writes:

 

 

> Richard - that's very interesting. I just reviewed MA laws and the

> requirements for licensure are to take the NCCAOM exam, not to maintain

> membership with NCCAOM, nor is there any provision if NCCAOM decides to

> revoke their certificate (which is not mine, as they very clearly stated

> during the tests, despite the $2000+ it cost me to get the blamed

> thing). There are no references to NCCAOM connections in order to renew

> one's license. Hmmmm... so it looks like, if I chose to not keep up

> w/NCCAOM, that won't affect my license. Hmmmm again...

> karen

>

> acudoc11 wrote:

>

> >Timothy

> >

> >I took a personal stand and dropped renewing. It never did anything for

me

> or

> >other licensees in Florida.

> >

> >The fact that this org is BOTH in the entry level testing AND the

so-called

> >Board Certification never sat right with a lot of practitioners. They

> EITHER

> >are in the entry level testing OR in Board Certification.

> >

> >Respected Board Certification in just about every other health care

> >profession REQUIRES one to go back to school and take ANOTHER test. What

> kind of Board

> >Certification is given if you simply PAY and extra few hundred dollars

upon

> >simultaneously taking the entry level test???

> >

> >Richard

> >

> >

> >

> >In a message dated 2/12/2006 2:37:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> >jellyphish writes:

> >Richard,

> >It does make you wonder. When you see your fellow classmates who have

> >been studying several hours of everyday on top of already busy schedules

> >hear this news (as i did), it makes your heart heavy. This is absolutely

> >rediculous and frankly makes me embarrased to be associated with the

> >organisation. I have never once heard of any medical test having this

> >problem, not once, but twice!? And they are so cold in their response,

> >and the timing is incredulous...it is extremely frustrating.

> >Tymothy

> >

> >Make's you kind of wonder, doesn't it?

> >

> >

> >

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In a message dated 2/12/2006 1:35:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

ra6151 writes:

 

Although it seems to be a little known

fact, it is not necessary to renew NCCAOM certification when one renews

one's

license every three years.

 

 

Maybe people should read the laws and rules that they are licensed under. I

find this very very sad that people do not know.

 

 

 

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In a message dated 2/13/2006 4:24:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,

KarateStan writes:

Maybe people should read the laws and rules that they are licensed under. I

find this very very sad that people do not know.

Therein lies one huge problem. What has been apparent here in

Florida.....can't speak for any where else.......practitioners are mandated to

take, every

two years, a course on Florida Laws & Rules pertaining to their own practice act

(Chapter 457) and their Administrative Code Rules (64B1) and the Department

of Health's practice act (Chapter 456) and the Administrative Procedures Act

(Chapter 120)....yet so few know anything about the laws and rules under which

they operate. Some of the failure goes to those who attempt to instruct that

which they know very little about......... and the balance of responsibility

must rest on the practitioner.