entry level exams & board certification

[Guest guest]

Timothy

 

I took a personal stand and dropped renewing. It never did anything for me or

other licensees in Florida.

 

The fact that this org is BOTH in the entry level testing AND the so-called

Board Certification never sat right with a lot of practitioners. They EITHER

are in the entry level testing OR in Board Certification.

 

Respected Board Certification in just about every other health care

profession REQUIRES one to go back to school and take ANOTHER test. What kind of

Board

Certification is given if you simply PAY and extra few hundred dollars upon

simultaneously taking the entry level test???

 

Richard

 

 

 

In a message dated 2/12/2006 2:37:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,

jellyphish writes:

Richard,

It does make you wonder. When you see your fellow classmates who have

been studying several hours of everyday on top of already busy schedules

hear this news (as i did), it makes your heart heavy. This is absolutely

rediculous and frankly makes me embarrased to be associated with the

organisation. I have never once heard of any medical test having this

problem, not once, but twice!? And they are so cold in their response,

and the timing is incredulous...it is extremely frustrating.

Tymothy

 

Make's you kind of wonder, doesn't it?

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Richard - that's very interesting. I just reviewed MA laws and the

requirements for licensure are to take the NCCAOM exam, not to maintain

membership with NCCAOM, nor is there any provision if NCCAOM decides to

revoke their certificate (which is not mine, as they very clearly stated

during the tests, despite the $2000+ it cost me to get the blamed

thing). There are no references to NCCAOM connections in order to renew

one's license. Hmmmm... so it looks like, if I chose to not keep up

w/NCCAOM, that won't affect my license. Hmmmm again...

karen

 

acudoc11 wrote:

 

>Timothy

>

>I took a personal stand and dropped renewing. It never did anything for me or

>other licensees in Florida.

>

>The fact that this org is BOTH in the entry level testing AND the so-called

>Board Certification never sat right with a lot of practitioners. They EITHER

>are in the entry level testing OR in Board Certification.

>

>Respected Board Certification in just about every other health care

>profession REQUIRES one to go back to school and take ANOTHER test. What kind

of Board

>Certification is given if you simply PAY and extra few hundred dollars upon

>simultaneously taking the entry level test???

>

>Richard

>

>

>

>In a message dated 2/12/2006 2:37:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,

>jellyphish writes:

>Richard,

>It does make you wonder. When you see your fellow classmates who have

>been studying several hours of everyday on top of already busy schedules

>hear this news (as i did), it makes your heart heavy. This is absolutely

>rediculous and frankly makes me embarrased to be associated with the

>organisation. I have never once heard of any medical test having this

>problem, not once, but twice!? And they are so cold in their response,

>and the timing is incredulous...it is extremely frustrating.

>Tymothy

>

>Make's you kind of wonder, doesn't it?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

RoseAnne - you said

 

'But just to legally practice acupuncture (and herbs too I guess since

there is no license for that at the present time) one only needs to pay

the state and renew the state license. In New York State there are NO '

 

If you let the certification lapse and NY later requires the exam for

herbal prescriptions, do you have to retake the exam?

Karen

 

ra6151 wrote:

 

>In a message dated 2/12/06 1:14:04 PM, tryfan writes:

>

>

>

>

>>so it looks like, if I chose to not keep up

>>w/NCCAOM, that won't affect my license. Hmmmm again...

>>

>>

>>

>

>Such is the case in New York State. Although it seems to be a little known

>fact, it is not necessary to renew NCCAOM certification when one renews one's

>license every three years. Of course, for herbal practice, one may want to

>advertise as " board certified " and then one would need to keep the

>certification current. But just to legally practice acupuncture (and herbs

too I guess

>since there is no license for that at the present time) one only needs to pay

>the state and renew the state license. In New York State there are NO

>REQUIREMENTS for continuing education units to renew the license.

>

>I found this out recently through a series of e-mails to NCCAOM.

>

>---RoseAnne S.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Karen

 

Each state is different. Approximately 15 of the 40+ states appear to require

that a licensee MAINTAINS the certification.

 

In Florida the certification has not been required by any insurance companies

to my knowledge.

 

The only criteria for insurance companies that are not practicing

discriminatory reimbursement......is that the licensee carry $1 million - $3

million

liability as the Florida minimum to obtain a license is $10,000 - $30,000.

 

As to a move to another state it might be considered under Reciprocity or in

some sates such as Florida it is called Endorsement by another state license.

The only requirement related to this issue is that the applicant/licensee once

successfully passed the national entry level exam. There are, of course,

other license requirements such as the applicants education etc. Again....once

must look at the laws of the state they are expecting to move to.

 

Every licensee...and on a state by state basis....needs to look into their

own set of circumstances. For me...as I stated...that certification had no

further use so I stopped renewing it. I recently became licensed in several

other

states and NONE of them required the up-keep of that certification.

 

The AAOMFP, based in Arkansas, as far as many licensees I know are

concerned.....is a more extensive Board Certification and for me the real

education has

been much more worthwhile.

 

The national company that appears to have had a monopoly by

default........should not ever be allowed to prevent others from being accepted

as a nationally

recognized board certification. It is no different that NOMA and the new REAL

Doctor of Oreintal Medicine ENTRY level degree versus the non-PhD Doctoral

Research degree or whatever it is actually these days or the Masters Diploma.

 

Richard

 

 

 

 

 

.......In a message dated 2/12/2006 1:13:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tryfan writes:

Richard - that's very interesting. I just reviewed MA laws and the

requirements for licensure are to take the NCCAOM exam, not to maintain

membership with NCCAOM, nor is there any provision if NCCAOM decides to

revoke their certificate (which is not mine, as they very clearly stated

during the tests, despite the $2000+ it cost me to get the blamed

thing). There are no references to NCCAOM connections in order to renew

one's license. Hmmmm... so it looks like, if I chose to not keep up

w/NCCAOM, that won't affect my license. Hmmmm again...

karen

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

acudoc11 wrote:

<snip>

> insurance companies that are not practicing discriminatory

> reimbursement.

 

Hi Dr. Richard!

 

Is there a list of these?

 

Regards,

 

Pete

[Guest guest]

I have often considered them to be entry level certification. Maybe

someone who feels otherwise could share with me the board specialty they got

from them. We now have some impressive board specilizations that will force

them to change this tune or continue to look stupid.

 

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

 

 

 

 

>acudoc11

>Chinese Medicine

>Chinese Medicine

> Re: entry level exams & board certification

>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:38:32 EST

>

>Timothy

>

>I took a personal stand and dropped renewing. It never did anything for me

>or

>other licensees in Florida.

>

>The fact that this org is BOTH in the entry level testing AND the so-called

>Board Certification never sat right with a lot of practitioners. They

>EITHER

>are in the entry level testing OR in Board Certification.

>

>Respected Board Certification in just about every other health care

>profession REQUIRES one to go back to school and take ANOTHER test. What

>kind of Board

>Certification is given if you simply PAY and extra few hundred dollars upon

>simultaneously taking the entry level test???

>

>Richard

>

>

>

>In a message dated 2/12/2006 2:37:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,

>jellyphish writes:

>Richard,

>It does make you wonder. When you see your fellow classmates who have

>been studying several hours of everyday on top of already busy schedules

>hear this news (as i did), it makes your heart heavy. This is absolutely

>rediculous and frankly makes me embarrased to be associated with the

>organisation. I have never once heard of any medical test having this

>problem, not once, but twice!? And they are so cold in their response,

>and the timing is incredulous...it is extremely frustrating.

>Tymothy

>

>Make's you kind of wonder, doesn't it?

>

>

>