Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Hi Tymothy Just a small thought that might help you (in the very long run) in your search for info on combining needle AP, lasers and magnets. I've just read sections 1 and 2 of Yoshio Manaka's " Chasing the Dragon's Tail " (0-912111-32-1). On page 52 and 53 he mentions an experiment he did, which showed that application of a magnet on the patient's shoulder close to GV-14 changed the qi propagations experienced when needling beneath C6, C7 and T1:- " He [Dr Li Ding Zhong] ... presents evidence for the channels derived from the phenomenon of propagated sensations, a phenomenon first described in Japan in the 1950s, occuring in a small percentage of people. In this last category, with insertion of a needle into a specific acupoint, sensitive persons can describe the trajectories of the channels based on the sensations that they experience. Many practitioners have had patients who have at least some ability to describe these propagating sensations. The preceding figure shows the pathways described by a blind channel- sensitive person after needling GV-14. Drs Rokuro Fujita, Masao Maruyama, and Yoshio Manaka examined this patient. Notice the various lines over which he would consistently fell the propagating sensations. This was a particularly interesting case. GV-14 is located below C7 ... according to one theory, below C6 ... according to another, and below T1 ... according to yet another. The examiners took advantage of this sensitive patient's descriptions to investigate these different locations. It was found that needling any of the threee locations produced the same propagations. Each was felt in three directions. However, when a large magnet was placed on the patient's shoulder close to GV-14, the different locations produced different radiations when the point was needled. The C6 location radiated only to the bladder channel; the C7 location only to the gallbladder channel; and the T1 location only to the small intestine channel, each point producing a different directional effect. " Manaka cites this as evidence for his theory that the meridians have a soft-wired, as well as hard-wired nature. The hard-wired nature, varies little, is generally affected by deep needling only, and is identified with the (biomedical) nervous system. The soft-wired nature, which is more flexible and more easily changed by weak polarizing agents like magnets and weak lasers, is identified with the 'acupuncture' phenomenon, whose ontological nature has not yet been identified (and which Manaka calls the 'X-signal'). Though I find 'Chasing the Dragon's Tail' is not an easy read (it contains a lot of experiments that maybe you have to do yourself before you can really understand the book) it is clearly profound and, should you ever manage to plumb its depths (and find some subjects to do experimental research on), it would have a profound efect on your combining of needle AP with lasers and/or magnets. Welcome to this rabbit hole, should you have the time and resources to go down it! All the best, David Chinese Medicine , " Tymothy " <jellyphish@f...> wrote: > > Curious if anyone on the list uses Magnets of Laser/LED therapy WHILE > the needles are being administered? > I have generally used Laser post-needle session, with magnets as take > home, but > am finding time constraints with each patient, > and have yet to hear of anyone doing multiple applications at once. If > anyone has experience > with this i would greatly appreciate it. > > Also is anyone familiar with Michael Tierra's protocol for magnetizing > water or herbal decoctions? Has anyone tried it? He suggests different > polarizations for > different ailments, but it's all new to me. > > Regards, Tymothy > > > " The greater danger for most of is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it. " Michelangelo > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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