Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Hi all, Some members will remember around a year and a half ago, I posted to the group the 7 acupoint (10 needles) weight loss protocol. A few members used it and reported back with positive results. I'm thinking of writing this weight loss protocol up into an article and would appreciate if any members could share their case studies with me that used this protocol. Please contact me off list at attiliodalberto Kind regards Attilio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 I would love to learn your protocol. Could you post the 10 points please? DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Hi Linda, Sure, see below: 1. Zhongwan - Ren12 2. Xiawan - Ren 10 3. Qihai - Ren 6 4. Guanyuan - Ren 4 5. Daheng - SP15 6. Huaroumen - ST24 7. Wailing - ST26 The symmetrical points of Daheng, Huaroumen and Wailing should be used, equalling 10 needles. This protocol can be used in all weight loss cases, which reflects a 'cookbook' approach rather than the use of a pattern analysis. This protocol is a slight variation of the core structure points used in abdominal acupuncture (see www.attiliodalberto.com for the article on abdominal acupuncture). Points can be given everyday if necessary. The needles are inserted, left for 25 mins with manipulation. Warm regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) B.Sc. (Hons) T.C.M., M.A.T.C.M. Company Director The Earth Health Clinic 0208 367 8378 enquiries <http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/> www.theearthhealthclinic.com Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of linda 04 January 2006 21:36 Chinese Medicine Re: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol I would love to learn your protocol. Could you post the 10 points please? DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Any chance you can repost the points? Thanks. <attiliodalberto wrote: Hi all, Some members will remember around a year and a half ago, I posted to the group the 7 acupoint (10 needles) weight loss protocol. A few members used it and reported back with positive results. I'm thinking of writing this weight loss protocol up into an article and would appreciate if any members could share their case studies with me that used this protocol. Please contact me off list at attiliodalberto Kind regards Attilio Download the all new TCM Forum Toolbar, click, http://toolbar.thebizplace.com/LandingPage.aspx/CT145145 and adjust accordingly. Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Thank you Attilio for posting those points, that was very kind of you. If I use them I will be happy to report back results. Do you have any " time " references you would like? Or dietary recommendations that are necessary for people to follow to know about the working of those points? Best regards, Linda - Attilio D'Alberto<attiliodalberto To: Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine\ @> Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:52 PM RE: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol Hi Linda, Sure, see below: 1. Zhongwan - Ren12 2. Xiawan - Ren 10 3. Qihai - Ren 6 4. Guanyuan - Ren 4 5. Daheng - SP15 6. Huaroumen - ST24 7. Wailing - ST26 The symmetrical points of Daheng, Huaroumen and Wailing should be used, equalling 10 needles. This protocol can be used in all weight loss cases, which reflects a 'cookbook' approach rather than the use of a pattern analysis. This protocol is a slight variation of the core structure points used in abdominal acupuncture (see www.attiliodalberto.com for the article on abdominal acupuncture). Points can be given everyday if necessary. The needles are inserted, left for 25 mins with manipulation. Warm regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) B.Sc. (Hons) T.C.M., M.A.T.C.M. Company Director The Earth Health Clinic 0208 367 8378 enquiries <http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/<http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/>> www.theearthhealthclinic.com Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of linda 04 January 2006 21:36 Chinese Medicine Re: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol I would love to learn your protocol. Could you post the 10 points please? DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Hi, May I ask for some clarification? Is there any particular preference for needling, i.e., even, tonifying or draining? What about needle depth? I read your article and seem to remember that the depth was quite shallow. Are these also shallow insertion? Do you use any moxa in this protocol? Thanks. P.T. Ferrance, L.Ac. - Attilio D'Alberto Chinese Medicine Wednesday, January 04, 2006 4:52 PM RE: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol Hi Linda, Sure, see below: 1. Zhongwan - Ren12 2. Xiawan - Ren 10 3. Qihai - Ren 6 4. Guanyuan - Ren 4 5. Daheng - SP15 6. Huaroumen - ST24 7. Wailing - ST26 The symmetrical points of Daheng, Huaroumen and Wailing should be used, equalling 10 needles. This protocol can be used in all weight loss cases, which reflects a 'cookbook' approach rather than the use of a pattern analysis. This protocol is a slight variation of the core structure points used in abdominal acupuncture (see www.attiliodalberto.com for the article on abdominal acupuncture). Points can be given everyday if necessary. The needles are inserted, left for 25 mins with manipulation. Warm regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) B.Sc. (Hons) T.C.M., M.A.T.C.M. Company Director The Earth Health Clinic 0208 367 8378 enquiries <http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/> www.theearthhealthclinic.com Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of linda 04 January 2006 21:36 Chinese Medicine Re: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol I would love to learn your protocol. Could you post the 10 points please? DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Hi Linda, I would use standard TCM dietary advice with a course of ten treatments and see how that goes. I look forward to hearing your results. Warm regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) B.Sc. (Hons) T.C.M., M.A.T.C.M. Company Director The Earth Health Clinic 0208 367 8378 enquiries <http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/> www.theearthhealthclinic.com Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Linda Gruber 05 January 2006 01:50 Chinese Medicine Re: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol Thank you Attilio for posting those points, that was very kind of you. If I use them I will be happy to report back results. Do you have any " time " references you would like? Or dietary recommendations that are necessary for people to follow to know about the working of those points? Best regards, Linda - Attilio D'Alberto<attiliodalberto To: Chinese Medicine <Traditional_Chinese_Medi cine > Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:52 PM RE: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol Hi Linda, Sure, see below: 1. Zhongwan - Ren12 2. Xiawan - Ren 10 3. Qihai - Ren 6 4. Guanyuan - Ren 4 5. Daheng - SP15 6. Huaroumen - ST24 7. Wailing - ST26 The symmetrical points of Daheng, Huaroumen and Wailing should be used, equalling 10 needles. This protocol can be used in all weight loss cases, which reflects a 'cookbook' approach rather than the use of a pattern analysis. This protocol is a slight variation of the core structure points used in abdominal acupuncture (see www.attiliodalberto.com for the article on abdominal acupuncture). Points can be given everyday if necessary. The needles are inserted, left for 25 mins with manipulation. Warm regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) B.Sc. (Hons) T.C.M., M.A.T.C.M. Company Director The Earth Health Clinic 0208 367 8378 enquiries <http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/<http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/>> www.theearthhealthclinic.com Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of linda 04 January 2006 21:36 Chinese Medicine Re: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol I would love to learn your protocol. Could you post the 10 points please? DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Attilio, Would you kindly share this protocol with the list again? I have patients asking me for this sort of treatment regularly. Thank you, <attiliodalberto wrote: Hi all, Some members will remember around a year and a half ago, I posted to the group the 7 acupoint (10 needles) weight loss protocol. A few members used it and reported back with positive results. I'm thinking of writing this weight loss protocol up into an article and would appreciate if any members could share their case studies with me that used this protocol. Please contact me off list at attiliodalberto Kind regards Attilio Download the all new TCM Forum Toolbar, click, http://toolbar.thebizplace.com/LandingPage.aspx/CT145145 and adjust accordingly. Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Attilio, How long would you continue this treatment on a daily basis. Do you define a certain number of treatments as a " course " , take a break, and then repeat? Or do you continue until the desired weight has been shed? Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto wrote: Hi Linda, Sure, see below: 1. Zhongwan - Ren12 2. Xiawan - Ren 10 3. Qihai - Ren 6 4. Guanyuan - Ren 4 5. Daheng - SP15 6. Huaroumen - ST24 7. Wailing - ST26 The symmetrical points of Daheng, Huaroumen and Wailing should be used, equalling 10 needles. This protocol can be used in all weight loss cases, which reflects a 'cookbook' approach rather than the use of a pattern analysis. This protocol is a slight variation of the core structure points used in abdominal acupuncture (see www.attiliodalberto.com for the article on abdominal acupuncture). Points can be given everyday if necessary. The needles are inserted, left for 25 mins with manipulation. Warm regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) B.Sc. (Hons) T.C.M., M.A.T.C.M. Company Director The Earth Health Clinic 0208 367 8378 enquiries <http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/> www.theearthhealthclinic.com Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of linda 04 January 2006 21:36 Chinese Medicine Re: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol I would love to learn your protocol. Could you post the 10 points please? DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Hi Attilio, I'm sorry but I missed that protocal. What was it or where could I find the posting? Much Thanks, Lauren Buckley, A.P. --- <attiliodalberto wrote: > Hi all, > > Some members will remember around a year and a half ago, I > posted to > the group the 7 acupoint (10 needles) weight loss protocol. A > few > members used it and reported back with positive results. > > I'm thinking of writing this weight loss protocol up into an > article > and would appreciate if any members could share their case > studies > with me that used this protocol. > > Please contact me off list at attiliodalberto > > Kind regards > > Attilio > > > > > ________ DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 I'm not Attilio but for those who have asked this morning scroll down and you will find the weight loss protocol. Happy New Year. P.T. Ferrance - Attilio D'Alberto Chinese Medicine Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:21 AM RE: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol Hi Linda, I would use standard TCM dietary advice with a course of ten treatments and see how that goes. I look forward to hearing your results. Warm regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) B.Sc. (Hons) T.C.M., M.A.T.C.M. Company Director The Earth Health Clinic 0208 367 8378 enquiries <http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/> www.theearthhealthclinic.com Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Linda Gruber 05 January 2006 01:50 Chinese Medicine Re: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol Thank you Attilio for posting those points, that was very kind of you. If I use them I will be happy to report back results. Do you have any " time " references you would like? Or dietary recommendations that are necessary for people to follow to know about the working of those points? Best regards, Linda - Attilio D'Alberto<attiliodalberto To: Chinese Medicine <Traditional_Chinese_Medi cine > Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:52 PM RE: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol Hi Linda, Sure, see below: 1. Zhongwan - Ren12 2. Xiawan - Ren 10 3. Qihai - Ren 6 4. Guanyuan - Ren 4 5. Daheng - SP15 6. Huaroumen - ST24 7. Wailing - ST26 The symmetrical points of Daheng, Huaroumen and Wailing should be used, equalling 10 needles. This protocol can be used in all weight loss cases, which reflects a 'cookbook' approach rather than the use of a pattern analysis. This protocol is a slight variation of the core structure points used in abdominal acupuncture (see www.attiliodalberto.com for the article on abdominal acupuncture). Points can be given everyday if necessary. The needles are inserted, left for 25 mins with manipulation. Warm regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) B.Sc. (Hons) T.C.M., M.A.T.C.M. Company Director The Earth Health Clinic 0208 367 8378 enquiries <http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/<http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/>> www.theearthhealthclinic.com Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of linda 04 January 2006 21:36 Chinese Medicine Re: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol I would love to learn your protocol. Could you post the 10 points please? DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Hi Andrea, This is the protocol I observed in use at Zhong Ri hospital in Beijing. Most patients were having it either every day or every two days. Here it is again. I think its still in the files section as well. 1. Zhongwan - Ren12 2. Xiawan - Ren 10 3. Qihai - Ren 6 4. Guanyuan - Ren 4 5. Daheng - SP15 6. Huaroumen - ST24 7. Wailing - ST26 Points to be used in all weight loss cases, which reflects a 'cookbook' approach rather than the use of a pattern analysis. The needles are inserted, manipulated and left for 25 mins. Those on the larger size are given a 10 mins on the super size TENS machine. Warm regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) B.Sc. (Hons) T.C.M., M.A.T.C.M. Company Director The Earth Health Clinic 0208 367 8378 enquiries <http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/> www.theearthhealthclinic.com Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Andrea Beth Damsky 05 January 2006 15:58 Chinese Medicine Re: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol Attilio, Would you kindly share this protocol with the list again? I have patients asking me for this sort of treatment regularly. Thank you, <attiliodalberto wrote: Hi all, Some members will remember around a year and a half ago, I posted to the group the 7 acupoint (10 needles) weight loss protocol. A few members used it and reported back with positive results. I'm thinking of writing this weight loss protocol up into an article and would appreciate if any members could share their case studies with me that used this protocol. Please contact me off list at attiliodalberto Kind regards Attilio Download the all new TCM Forum Toolbar, click, http://toolbar.thebizplace.com/LandingPage.aspx/CT145145 and adjust accordingly. Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Hi Andrea, Not all patients are willing to come to the clinic on a daily basis, but it possible then great. Personally, I would give out the protocol for 10 sessions, with herbal slimming capsules and monitor the effects of these as they can cause some internal disruption to some patients. Of course, dietary and lifestyle advise is also given. I also give people a fact sheet to take home and read, which provides additional lifestyle information. Warm regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) B.Sc. (Hons) T.C.M., M.A.T.C.M. Company Director The Earth Health Clinic 0208 367 8378 enquiries <http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/> www.theearthhealthclinic.com Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Andrea Beth Damsky 05 January 2006 16:12 Chinese Medicine RE: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol Attilio, How long would you continue this treatment on a daily basis. Do you define a certain number of treatments as a " course " , take a break, and then repeat? Or do you continue until the desired weight has been shed? Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto wrote: Hi Linda, Sure, see below: 1. Zhongwan - Ren12 2. Xiawan - Ren 10 3. Qihai - Ren 6 4. Guanyuan - Ren 4 5. Daheng - SP15 6. Huaroumen - ST24 7. Wailing - ST26 The symmetrical points of Daheng, Huaroumen and Wailing should be used, equalling 10 needles. This protocol can be used in all weight loss cases, which reflects a 'cookbook' approach rather than the use of a pattern analysis. This protocol is a slight variation of the core structure points used in abdominal acupuncture (see www.attiliodalberto.com for the article on abdominal acupuncture). Points can be given everyday if necessary. The needles are inserted, left for 25 mins with manipulation. Warm regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) B.Sc. (Hons) T.C.M., M.A.T.C.M. Company Director The Earth Health Clinic 0208 367 8378 enquiries <http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/> www.theearthhealthclinic.com Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of linda 04 January 2006 21:36 Chinese Medicine Re: Weight Loss Acupuncture Protocol I would love to learn your protocol. Could you post the 10 points please? DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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