Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Hi All First I want to wish you merry christmas And second ... I want to ask how to use needles by children or what else can I use to stimulate acupoints( instead Laser)? Thanks Boris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 As a rule, I was taught it is difficult to balance children under 9yo with needles. I also use tuning forks to wonderful effect with children, usually using products from Acutonics. I will treat children with needles in my practice for congenital or chronic problems, but usually I use Pediatric Tuina for more basic ailments and show the family members how to continue the tx at home in order to deepen the bond within the family and invest the parents as much as possible in the therapy. Larry Moore L.Ac, RN,BSN,MSOM Windsinger Therapies Scottsdale Az 602-931-2529 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 My experience with acupuncture and pediatrics in the last 25 years is nearly all positive. First of all, I use the thinnest gauge seirin needles, which are almost as thin as hairs. As others have mentioned, needle retention is very short and very mild stimulus, just until the skin reddens. I tend to use acupuncture in children for acute care, and the results in relieving fevers, pain (such as earaches), vomiting and nausea can be dramatic enough, if explained to parents and children, to be worth doing. If I don't use acupuncture, I'll use shoni shin scraping and tapping tools, along with pediatric tui na. And, of course, Chinese herbs in liquid extracts or powders. The results are also wonderful, children react to treatment much more readily than adults. On Dec 25, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Thomas Bøgedal Sørensen wrote: > For my two cents worth I think the children's experience of > acupuncture > will be very much related to the acupuncturist's or the parent(s) > accompanying the child's level of anxiety about treatment. > Obviously the > child will feel the needle and and the frustration about being held > during the short manipulation, but this tends to be very shortlived; > however if the practitioner is not used to treating children with > needles and possibly displaying insecurity the child will, children > being emotional sponges, most surely pick up on it and feel > insecure and > become frightened about the whole situation. The same thing goes if > the > parent accompanying the child is nervous about the child receiving > acupuncture due to ie parents fear of needles, etc. It's important for > the acupuncturist to be comfortable with needling [young] children as > well to be able to deal with parents' responses ie be able to calm > down > a nervous mother or father. > > Of course TuiNa is also a good choice when it comes to treating > children > and the idea about tuning forks is interesting, however I find that it > is not all that difficult treating children including my own > daughter..... ..and it tends to get the job done be it in the > treatment of constipation, cholic, recurrent ear infections, etc. > > I am sure group members know of Mr. Julian Scott a British > acupuncturist > specializing in paedeatric acupuncture > (http://www.pediatricacupuncture.com/) He teaches seminars on how to > treat children with acupuncture and is also the author of a quite nice > book on the topic that could offer some very useful hints. > > Best regards, > > Thomas Sorensen > L.Ac. Denmark > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 For my two cents worth I think the children's experience of acupuncture will be very much related to the acupuncturist's or the parent(s) accompanying the child's level of anxiety about treatment. Obviously the child will feel the needle and and the frustration about being held during the short manipulation, but this tends to be very shortlived; however if the practitioner is not used to treating children with needles and possibly displaying insecurity the child will, children being emotional sponges, most surely pick up on it and feel insecure and become frightened about the whole situation. The same thing goes if the parent accompanying the child is nervous about the child receiving acupuncture due to ie parents fear of needles, etc. It's important for the acupuncturist to be comfortable with needling [young] children as well to be able to deal with parents' responses ie be able to calm down a nervous mother or father. Of course TuiNa is also a good choice when it comes to treating children and the idea about tuning forks is interesting, however I find that it is not all that difficult treating children including my own daughter..... ..and it tends to get the job done be it in the treatment of constipation, cholic, recurrent ear infections, etc. I am sure group members know of Mr. Julian Scott a British acupuncturist specializing in paedeatric acupuncture (http://www.pediatricacupuncture.com/) He teaches seminars on how to treat children with acupuncture and is also the author of a quite nice book on the topic that could offer some very useful hints. Best regards, Thomas Sorensen L.Ac. Denmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 Still but a novice I have the same experience. This far I have only treated a fairly small number of children ....these, however, were fairly easily treated with, at times, dramatic and quick results. Also the children I have treated have been children of parents whom I have treated ealier - that simplifies things. Thomas Sorensen L.Ac., Denmark wrote: >My experience with acupuncture and pediatrics in the last 25 years is >nearly all positive. First of all, I use the thinnest gauge seirin >needles, which are almost as thin as hairs. As others have >mentioned, needle retention is very short and very mild stimulus, >just until the skin reddens. I tend to use acupuncture in children >for acute care, and the results in relieving fevers, pain (such as >earaches), vomiting and nausea can be dramatic enough, if explained >to parents and children, to be worth doing. If I don't use >acupuncture, I'll use shoni shin scraping and tapping tools, along >with pediatric tui na. And, of course, Chinese herbs in liquid >extracts or powders. The results are also wonderful, children react >to treatment much more readily than adults. > > >On Dec 25, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Thomas Bøgedal Sørensen wrote: > > > >>For my two cents worth I think the children's experience of >>acupuncture >>will be very much related to the acupuncturist's or the parent(s) >>accompanying the child's level of anxiety about treatment. >>Obviously the >>child will feel the needle and and the frustration about being held >>during the short manipulation, but this tends to be very shortlived; >>however if the practitioner is not used to treating children with >>needles and possibly displaying insecurity the child will, children >>being emotional sponges, most surely pick up on it and feel >>insecure and >>become frightened about the whole situation. The same thing goes if >>the >>parent accompanying the child is nervous about the child receiving >>acupuncture due to ie parents fear of needles, etc. It's important for >>the acupuncturist to be comfortable with needling [young] children as >>well to be able to deal with parents' responses ie be able to calm >>down >>a nervous mother or father. >> >>Of course TuiNa is also a good choice when it comes to treating >>children >>and the idea about tuning forks is interesting, however I find that it >>is not all that difficult treating children including my own >>daughter..... ..and it tends to get the job done be it in the >>treatment of constipation, cholic, recurrent ear infections, etc. >> >>I am sure group members know of Mr. Julian Scott a British >>acupuncturist >>specializing in paedeatric acupuncture >>(http://www.pediatricacupuncture.com/) He teaches seminars on how to >>treat children with acupuncture and is also the author of a quite nice >>book on the topic that could offer some very useful hints. >> >>Best regards, >> >>Thomas Sorensen >>L.Ac. Denmark >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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