South Baylo University was Acupuncture schooling

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Thank you Mike and Ming for your responses re: South Baylo.

 

I did recently attend an Open House there. It was very informative and

included a student Q & A session as well as a tour. Of course, they would

only present their school in the most positive light :-) so I was

interested in learning if past students were satisfied with the

education they received there. For instance, at the open house, our

packet contained a list of pass rates on the licensing exam (the same

list that is available on the CA acupuncture board website) but omitted

the last column which overall pass rates. They only included the 1st

time takers pass rate (80% vs. 49%).

 

Thanks,

Trish

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Trish,

 

I went thru the SBU pass rates for the CA exam for the last five years

(2000-2005) and come up no where near 80% in fact if we add all the columns

for first time takers and even add in overall for 8/05 (when all stats are

added together) we get only 66% (608 pass) and 34% (314 fail).

 

This is being generous as the most recent stats include both first and

repeat takers. I would ask them to defend their stats. Maybe most of their

grads are having to take this exam several times before passage (if so, how

many times are they having to repeat it?). That is a sign of concern that

is not shared by some other CA programs. Their numbers probably came from

one single year. For a more reflective summary an average over several

years is suggested. The schools with the best rates are five branches,

PCOM, emperor's. Check these out if you interested as well. Good luck on

this search.

 

 

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

 

 

 

>pippa258 <pippa258

>Chinese Medicine

>Chinese Medicine

> South Baylo University was Acupuncture schooling

>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 09:23:40 -0800

>

>Thank you Mike and Ming for your responses re: South Baylo.

>

>I did recently attend an Open House there. It was very informative and

>included a student Q & A session as well as a tour. Of course, they would

>only present their school in the most positive light :-) so I was

>interested in learning if past students were satisfied with the

>education they received there. For instance, at the open house, our

>packet contained a list of pass rates on the licensing exam (the same

>list that is available on the CA acupuncture board website) but omitted

>the last column which overall pass rates. They only included the 1st

>time takers pass rate (80% vs. 49%).

>

>Thanks,

>Trish

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The schools with the best rates are five branches,

PCOM, emperor's.

>>>>

Mike

I thought ACTCM had a very high rate. Is than not correct?

 

 

 

 

Oakland, CA 94609

 

 

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mike Bowser

Chinese Medicine

Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:17 AM

RE: South Baylo University was Acupuncture schooling

 

 

Trish,

 

I went thru the SBU pass rates for the CA exam for the last five years

(2000-2005) and come up no where near 80% in fact if we add all the columns

for first time takers and even add in overall for 8/05 (when all stats are

added together) we get only 66% (608 pass) and 34% (314 fail).

 

This is being generous as the most recent stats include both first and

repeat takers. I would ask them to defend their stats. Maybe most of their

grads are having to take this exam several times before passage (if so, how

many times are they having to repeat it?). That is a sign of concern that

is not shared by some other CA programs. Their numbers probably came from

one single year. For a more reflective summary an average over several

years is suggested. The schools with the best rates are five branches,

PCOM, emperor's. Check these out if you interested as well. Good luck on

this search.

 

 

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

 

 

 

>pippa258 <pippa258

>Chinese Medicine

>Chinese Medicine

> South Baylo University was Acupuncture schooling

>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 09:23:40 -0800

>

>Thank you Mike and Ming for your responses re: South Baylo.

>

>I did recently attend an Open House there. It was very informative and

>included a student Q & A session as well as a tour. Of course, they would

>only present their school in the most positive light :-) so I was

>interested in learning if past students were satisfied with the

>education they received there. For instance, at the open house, our

>packet contained a list of pass rates on the licensing exam (the same

>list that is available on the CA acupuncture board website) but omitted

>the last column which overall pass rates. They only included the 1st

>time takers pass rate (80% vs. 49%).

>

>Thanks,

>Trish

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Alon,

 

Forgot to mention them as they are located in the bay area and not in So

Cal. This person seemed interested in schools down around the LA area.

Good program though.

 

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

 

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>Re: South Baylo University was Acupuncture schooling

>Sat, 3 Dec 2005 10:48:31 -0800

>

>The schools with the best rates are five branches,

>PCOM, emperor's.

> >>>>

>Mike

>I thought ACTCM had a very high rate. Is than not correct?

>

>

>

>

>Oakland, CA 94609

>

>

> -

> mike Bowser

> Chinese Medicine

> Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:17 AM

> RE: South Baylo University was Acupuncture schooling

>

>

> Trish,

>

> I went thru the SBU pass rates for the CA exam for the last five years

> (2000-2005) and come up no where near 80% in fact if we add all the

>columns

> for first time takers and even add in overall for 8/05 (when all stats

>are

> added together) we get only 66% (608 pass) and 34% (314 fail).

>

> This is being generous as the most recent stats include both first and

> repeat takers. I would ask them to defend their stats. Maybe most of

>their

> grads are having to take this exam several times before passage (if so,

>how

> many times are they having to repeat it?). That is a sign of concern

>that

> is not shared by some other CA programs. Their numbers probably came

>from

> one single year. For a more reflective summary an average over several

> years is suggested. The schools with the best rates are five branches,

> PCOM, emperor's. Check these out if you interested as well. Good luck

>on

> this search.

>

>

> Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>

>

>

>

> >pippa258 <pippa258

> >Chinese Medicine

> >Chinese Medicine

> > South Baylo University was Acupuncture schooling

> >Fri, 02 Dec 2005 09:23:40 -0800

> >

> >Thank you Mike and Ming for your responses re: South Baylo.

> >

> >I did recently attend an Open House there. It was very informative

>and

> >included a student Q & A session as well as a tour. Of course, they

>would

> >only present their school in the most positive light :-) so I was

> >interested in learning if past students were satisfied with the

> >education they received there. For instance, at the open house, our

> >packet contained a list of pass rates on the licensing exam (the same

> >list that is available on the CA acupuncture board website) but omitted

> >the last column which overall pass rates. They only included the 1st

> >time takers pass rate (80% vs. 49%).

> >

> >Thanks,

> >Trish

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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