Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Hi everybody, I have this case any suggestion will be thankful. Woman 29 years old 1 children 5 years old Veterinary She feels very tired, specially after lunch (she needs to sleep 1 hour o more) Shes is not sleeping well (6 hour with shorts awakens) Pain on low lumbar area Lips dry Palpitations at night A little numbness of arms and legs Eats normally Stools normal The period is normal Drinks 3-5 lts. of water at day (important: we are in summer) Practice Kung Fu 1,5 hours 3 times per week Tongue pale with tooth marks Pulse a little fast, feels good at 3 levels and deeps. (No diabetes) My first diagnostic: spleen Qi deficiency -> heart blood deficiency 1º Treatment: pishu, xinshu, ciliaos, sanyinjao, yinlinquan 2 days after the patient feels better, more energy, less lumbar pain, but she start to practice kung fu again and feels so tired that she had to stop. 2º Treatment: pishu, xinshu, ciliaos ginger with moxa 3 days after he patient feels better, no pain, more energy 3º Treatment: taixi(+), sanyinjao(+), diji(+), yinlinquan(+), guanyuan, zhangmen, shenmen(ear), heart(ear) 2 days after, no pain, but the patient feels very tired again. Any suggestions? Could be a kidney-heart problem (water over controlling fire?) Fernando Dougnac C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 hi fernando see my annotations with ref to posted symptoms Fernando Dougnac wrote: > Woman 29 years old > 1 children 5 years old > upright qi should be unaffected > She feels very tired, specially after lunch (she needs to sleep 1 hour o > more) > very clearly a SP Earth person > Shes is not sleeping well (6 hour with shorts awakens) > is she a HT not nourishing SP person? > Pain on low lumbar area > if SP this can be a Ko cycle restrain if HT this can be a Fire Water shunt > Lips dry > again a clear SP sign, SP opens to lips > Palpitations at night > this shows a generic yin deficiency which presents at night sunrise to sunset - yang in yin - enough yang sunset to sunrise - yin in yang - yin lack > A little numbness of arms and legs > one more SP corroboration > Eats normally > this throws out a SP weakness > Stools normal > this throws out a Colon weakness by yang ming bond > The period is normal > this throws out Fire HT Water K > Drinks 3-5 lts. of water at day (important: we are in summer) > OK > Practice Kung Fu 1,5 hours 3 times per week > no hassle to that > Tongue pale with tooth marks > generic qi lack SP ST again but good appetite rules that out > Pulse a little fast, feels good at 3 levels and deeps. > generic yin deficiency *pattern thus far - generic yin deficiency* > My first diagnostic: spleen Qi deficiency -> heart blood deficiency > good appetite - cannot be SP deficiency menstruates regular - can't be Heart Blood deficiency > 1º Treatment: pishu, xinshu, ciliaos, sanyinjao, yinlinquan > > 2 days after the patient feels better, more energy, less lumbar pain, but > she start to practice kung fu again and feels so tired that she had to stop. > > 2º Treatment: pishu, xinshu, ciliaos ginger with moxa > > 3 days after he patient feels better, no pain, more energy > > 3º Treatment: taixi(+), sanyinjao(+), diji(+), yinlinquan(+), guanyuan, > zhangmen, shenmen(ear), heart(ear) > > 2 days after, no pain, but the patient feels very tired again. > this is because this is not a SP or Heart or Blood deficient patient > > Any suggestions? Could be a kidney-heart problem (water over controlling > fire?) > no, she menstruates timely K rules menstrual periodicity > please look at tongue and report on: a. are there fissures? exactly where b. general shape - conical anterior 1/3? c. deep trough in rear i/3? this simple test will decide many ambiguities up to now the *pattern* is a simple yin qi deficiency Dr. Holmes Keikobad Baccalaureate in Medicine & Surgery Diplomate in Public Health & Hygiene Diplomate in Acupuncture NCCAOM Licensed Acupuncturist AZ & CO Clinician Community Acupuncture Clinic Clinical Director Acupuncture CEUS on DVD CD www.acu-free.com. Toll Free 1.888.TRU.SELF <878.7353> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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