Guest guest Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Does this mean that speed is a Ma Huang by-product? " The nature of the beast Methamphetamine, as compared to cocaine, is " home grown. " For example, with the right ingredients such as a commonly utilized over-the-counter decongestant called pseudoephedrine (Sudafed), and with a few pieces of laboratory equipment, the drug can be produced in a bathroom, kitchen, or even in the back of a van moving from place to place as a roving laboratory. " FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 One of the lesser known reasons for the ma huang 'ban' in the US was the fact that speed labs were some of the biggest customers for ma huang and derivatives. One herbal company I know was busted by the FDA for selling (unknowingly, I believe) ma huang in large quantities to speed labs. On Nov 7, 2005, at 2:21 AM, carl ploss wrote: > > Does this mean that speed is a Ma Huang by-product? > > > > " The nature of the beast > Methamphetamine, as compared to cocaine, is " home grown. " For example, > with > the right ingredients such as a commonly utilized over-the-counter > decongestant called pseudoephedrine (Sudafed), and with a few > pieces of > laboratory equipment, the drug can be produced in a bathroom, kitchen, > or > even in the back of a van moving from place to place as a roving > laboratory. " > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Is it actually completely banned in the US? It's banned in Belgium as well- because cyclists who had tested positively for the use of ephedrine would testify like: " Me? Ephedrine? No way, I had a cold and I went to see my Chinese doctor, is all. " After that, no more ma huang. It can still be obtained from other countries though. Tom. ---- 11/08/05 08:18:25 Chinese Medicine Re: Re: speed, Sudafed, pseudoephedrine, Ma Huang One of the lesser known reasons for the ma huang 'ban' in the US was the fact that speed labs were some of the biggest customers for ma huang and derivatives. One herbal company I know was busted by the FDA for selling (unknowingly, I believe) ma huang in large quantities to speed labs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 It is still available as a raw herb. Also, its future is uncertain as a supreme court decision in Utah stated that it couldn't be banned without proof that it was harmful in small doses. On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:53 AM, Tom Verhaeghe wrote: > Is it actually completely banned in the US? It's banned in Belgium > as well- > because cyclists who had tested positively for the use of ephedrine > would > testify like: " Me? Ephedrine? No way, I had a cold and I went to > see my > Chinese doctor, is all. " After that, no more ma huang. It can still be > obtained from other countries though. > > Tom. > > ---- > > > 11/08/05 08:18:25 > Chinese Medicine > Re: Re: speed, Sudafed, pseudoephedrine, Ma Huang > > One of the lesser known reasons for the ma huang 'ban' in the US was > the fact that speed labs were some of the biggest customers for ma > huang and derivatives. One herbal company I know was busted by the > FDA for selling (unknowingly, I believe) ma huang in large quantities > to speed labs. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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