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Hi Lisa,

 

How are things going? We went to school together, I believe. I took

one of Blue Poppy's internet courses, and Bob Flaws says sleep apnea

points work when trailed in China, but he recommends treating at least

twice a week. He also lists the pattern for herbal prescriptions.

Obesity is a percipitating factor for sleep apnea, so your patient may

need a high dose for this to be effective. (Generally, over 180 lbs, I

used 12 scoops of powder a day).

If you want more information, onctact me off list.

 

Take care,

Gabrielle

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Yes and no. One case was impossible to deal with, partly because of the

patient's unwillingness to come for regular treatment or look at lifestyle.

The first patient had severe problems with fibromyalgia which is not

uncommon. The other was an extreme case of phlegm and overworked spleen.

In this case recovery was a gradual process using acupuncture treatment and

dealing with lifestyle, diet and stress, which was accompanied by step by

step improvement. The interesting thing however was once the medical

profession had rigged up equipment to provide more oxygenisation at night

(almost a year later) , further recovery became rapid. I do not use herbs,

but I found that Peter Deadman's Manual of Acupuncture provided some useful

points, which gave temporary relief, which was a godsend for the patient.

This patient still,occasionally has to resort to his equipment at night, but

certainly not very often. Both cases were diagnostically completely

different, so I don't think you will find a simple answer. What was common

to both was problems with weight and diet.

 

Regards

 

Helene

 

 

 

 

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> Lisa Oshlo <lisa

> Sleep apnea?

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> has anyone had any luck treating this condition?

> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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> Anne,

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> > Atillio, Mark: I recently switched from individual messages to digest

> > (to help my addiction with email). Can you tell my how to reply to just

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> Put the cursor on the start of the text that you want to copy, and drag

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> > appreciated. Anne

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> Extract the desired text, as above, and drop it into a new mail,

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> Re: Borneolum syntheticum & Lonicera oil

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> Hi Hubert,

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> > Does anyone know where I could get BingPian (Borneolum

> syntheticum) & Lonicera Oil?

> > Thanks, Hubert Karreman, VMD Bartville, PA

>

> BingPian (Borneolum syntheticum)

> http://www.enwei.com.cn/b2b_en/page.asp?title=bingpian

> http://herbalshop.com/tcm/ChineseHerb_B043.html

> http://www.chinesenaturalherbs.com/bulkherbs/borneol.htm

> or email " WinDrug, China " <qe51

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> Bulk (wholesale) supplies of essential oils: http://tinyurl.com/b8qtv

>

> Lonicera Oil (Honeysuckle oil, Jinyinhuayou or Rendongtengyou or

> Rendongyou):

> http://www.yt-export.com/details.php?kind=07 & kinds=07a04 & id=19

> or http://www.yt-export.com/contact.htm

> or email Sales Manager <hunter

> http://www.handafc.com/Home/Products/Essential_Oils/

> http://www.thepurplepeople.com/essence_oils/honey_suckle.html

> http://www.medichest.com/honeysuckleoilfragrance25ml.html

>

> The University of Tehran and allied research centres in Iran are

> researching many essential oils. Try emails to the following researchers:

> <Sfmojab, <hosseinzadehh,

> <s.akhond, <shahverdiar,

> <hosseinzadehh, <Mitra_taghizadeh,

> <Huseini_fallah and ask them where you can get supplies

> of high-quality oils.

>

> Happy oiling!

>

>

> Best regards,

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> Tel: (W): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

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> " Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " -

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