Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Hi all, It's amazing that in our industry its so hard to get anywhere. Not only do we have to master our herbs, theory, diagnosis and acupuncture, which will take a lifetime in itself, but we have to have an adept business mind. This is quite a contradiction to many of us, offering a traditional healing art based on the ethical ideals of helping all those in need, an yet having to turn our heads and think of clever marketing skills, book keeping and clawing in the money. I still remember having all those moralistic student ideals: they'll come because its a good medicine that works! But how naive could I be? It's a real shame that even if your a good, talented practitioner it won't mean much if you haven't got a good marketing scheme and can get the patients in to practice on. I was quite lucky with my degree in that we had a compulsory business module. Funny that we all protested to it at the time, saying that it wasn't necessary for our course. How wrong could I be! Now, I spend more time thinking of business strategies, marketing schemes and business opportunities rather than studying Chinese medicine. A painful truth and reality check, I just hope it isn't for long! I wish someone would write an expose on the state of Chinese medicine from student to practitioner. I think it would be a beneficial insight for those coming into the field. Warm regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) B.Sc. (Hons) T.C.M., M.A.T.C.M. Company Director The Earth Health Clinic 0208 367 8378 enquiries <http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/> www.theearthhealthclinic.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Attilio D'Alberto wrote: Hi Dr. Attilio! Hmm, you summed it up fairly well. That and the occasional scuttlebutt hosted on this list relevant to the same topic. Don't the students read the list? I think the school owners might not really like this " acupuncture is low/no pay for the first ten years " idea getting to their students, however. What would happen if we started using the word " profession " to describe our " industry " ? I think that could help us. I post a lot about my money troubles, but I don't really worry about them. I just keep on doing the best I can and have faith in God. That part about " faith in God " was taught in several of my TCM classes - Chinese teachers fresh from China, by the way, although I had heard of it before. Regards, Pete > Hi all, > > It's amazing that in our industry its so hard to get anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Pete, Yes, I'm fully aware that the TCM schools would not be in favour of telling their potential students how difficult it is to practice once they've graduated. And nor is it my concern whether the TCM schools like having this information made available or not. It's up to those that run the TCM media to bring this information to the forefront of the TCM community. Industry - profession. What's the difference? Please educate me! Warm regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) B.Sc. (Hons) T.C.M., M.A.T.C.M. Company Director The Earth Health Clinic 0208 367 8378 enquiries <http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/> www.theearthhealthclinic.com Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Pete Theisen 24 October 2005 14:33 Chinese Medicine Re: The Biggest Secret Attilio D'Alberto wrote: Hi Dr. Attilio! Hmm, you summed it up fairly well. That and the occasional scuttlebutt hosted on this list relevant to the same topic. Don't the students read the list? I think the school owners might not really like this " acupuncture is low/no pay for the first ten years " idea getting to their students, however. What would happen if we started using the word " profession " to describe our " industry " ? I think that could help us. I post a lot about my money troubles, but I don't really worry about them. I just keep on doing the best I can and have faith in God. That part about " faith in God " was taught in several of my TCM classes - Chinese teachers fresh from China, by the way, although I had heard of it before. Regards, Pete > Hi all, > > It's amazing that in our industry its so hard to get anywhere. http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Attilio D'Alberto wrote: > Pete, > > Yes, I'm fully aware that the TCM schools would not be in favour of > telling their potential students how difficult it is to practice once > they've graduated. And nor is it my concern whether the TCM schools > like having this information made available or not. It's up to those > that run the TCM media to bring this information to the forefront of > the TCM community. > > Industry - profession. What's the difference? Please educate me! > Hi Dr. Attilio! The TCM media is more you (and Mark) than you think. A lot of people never read dead-tree media any more. Internet is becoming influential. Perhaps it is US usage. " Industry " has a blue-collar, factory, material, parts, workbench, grime, grease and tools connotation. " Profession " is more the image of someone wearing nice clothes who has styled hair and manicured nails who is holding a high-level position that involves no actual work at all yet is paid a lot of money. Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Dr Pete, When I use the word industry, I mean the economic entity rather than factory industry or heavy industry. I guess the internet is becoming more and more influential, especially in countries such as the US, Korea and Japan, hotly followed by the UK. I always thought internet was the future. And talking of TCM media I'll be launching a new TCM media avenue on the internet in 3-6 months time. Will keep you posted! Warm regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) B.Sc. (Hons) T.C.M., M.A.T.C.M. Company Director The Earth Health Clinic 0208 367 8378 enquiries <http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/> www.theearthhealthclinic.com Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Pete Theisen 24 October 2005 16:17 Chinese Medicine Re: The Biggest Secret Attilio D'Alberto wrote: > Pete, > > Yes, I'm fully aware that the TCM schools would not be in favour of > telling their potential students how difficult it is to practice once > they've graduated. And nor is it my concern whether the TCM schools > like having this information made available or not. It's up to those > that run the TCM media to bring this information to the forefront of > the TCM community. > > Industry - profession. What's the difference? Please educate me! > Hi Dr. Attilio! The TCM media is more you (and Mark) than you think. A lot of people never read dead-tree media any more. Internet is becoming influential. Perhaps it is US usage. " Industry " has a blue-collar, factory, material, parts, workbench, grime, grease and tools connotation. " Profession " is more the image of someone wearing nice clothes who has styled hair and manicured nails who is holding a high-level position that involves no actual work at all yet is paid a lot of money. Regards, Pete http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Attilio D'Alberto wrote: > Dr Pete, > > When I use the word industry, I mean the economic entity rather than > factory industry or heavy industry. > > I guess the internet is becoming more and more influential, > especially in countries such as the US, Korea and Japan, hotly > followed by the UK. > > I always thought internet was the future. And talking of TCM media > I'll be launching a new TCM media avenue on the internet in 3-6 > months time. Will keep you posted! > Hi Dr. Attilio! There must be a lot of different regional and national connotations in word usage. I guess there is not a lot of chance reconciling this any time soon, although as people discuss this internationally it will tend to homogenize. I remember in TCM school the Chinese were from different parts of China and they would get into involved discussions about what certain Chinese characters meant. The English-only speakers sat there with their eyes glazed over. So, you are rolling out a blog? Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 No, not a blog. I see hit on my websites jumped after I said that. There's no hints on those web sites, sorry. Warm regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) B.Sc. (Hons) T.C.M., M.A.T.C.M. Company Director The Earth Health Clinic 0208 367 8378 enquiries <http://www.theearthhealthclinic.com/> www.theearthhealthclinic.com Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Pete Theisen 25 October 2005 00:20 Chinese Medicine Re: The Biggest Secret Attilio D'Alberto wrote: > Dr Pete, > > When I use the word industry, I mean the economic entity rather than > factory industry or heavy industry. > > I guess the internet is becoming more and more influential, > especially in countries such as the US, Korea and Japan, hotly > followed by the UK. > > I always thought internet was the future. And talking of TCM media > I'll be launching a new TCM media avenue on the internet in 3-6 > months time. Will keep you posted! > Hi Dr. Attilio! There must be a lot of different regional and national connotations in word usage. I guess there is not a lot of chance reconciling this any time soon, although as people discuss this internationally it will tend to homogenize. I remember in TCM school the Chinese were from different parts of China and they would get into involved discussions about what certain Chinese characters meant. The English-only speakers sat there with their eyes glazed over. So, you are rolling out a blog? Regards, Pete http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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