Herbal Databases - CHMIS & TRADIMED

[Guest guest]

Hi Tom, & All,

 

Tom wrote:

> Hi Phil, some days ago you sent us a link of Michigan University cancer

> herbs data. I tried to register as a member of the European Federation

> of Oriental Medicine, but was still identified as an industrial user.

> Meaning I would have to pay. One year license fee= 20000$. Gulp. Did

> you get access to the data? Tom.

 

I am registered on http://sw16.im.med.umich.edu/CHMIS-C/signin/ as a

veterinary researcher with Teagasc [National Agriculture & Food

Authority of Ireland] under category (a),

 

The enrolment page at http://sw16.im.med.umich.edu/CHMIS-C/enroll/

has two categories: (a) Academic / Governmental and (b) Industrial.

 

Registration is free for category (a) but very costly for category (b)

because this database has awesome power for those with commercial

interest in developing biomedical compounds. CHMIS has access to

molecular data and linkages to the relevant publications on Medline.

 

Listers interested to join for free should have an Academic /

Governmental connection, and use a bona-fide email address in

Academic / Governmental domain.

 

If you have not such an address, you may be able to the get one as an

associate staff member via an IT person, or senior Academic /

Governmental staff member.

 

However, CHMIS falls far short of being a database that CLINICIANS

need:

 

(a) It focuses only on herbs and SPECIAL (non-classical) formulas used

in CANCER, for example, in descending order of usage in cancer

formulas, the top 50 individual herbs listed in CHMIS are:

 

_Hb PinYin Name _Used in Cancer Type

Baihuasheshecao Digestive tract, LV, Lymphoma, Cervix, Larynx,

SI, LI, Anus, Chorioepithelioma

Xiakucao Uterus, Thyroid, Mammary, Lymphoma

Banzhilian Cervix, LV

Danggui Sarcoma

Jinyinhua Nose & Throat, Uterus, Cervix, Vagina

Haizao Sarcoma, Abdomen

Fuling Nourish

Danshen Abdomen, Melanoma, LV

Dangshen LU

Gancao ST, Tongue, Larynx, LV

Kunbu Thyroid, Oesophagus, Uterus, Lymphoma, LU, LV,

Mammary

Shengdi ?

Wugong ST, Skin, Abdomen, Cervix

Yiyiren ?

Taoren Oesophagus, ST, LU

Muxiang Nourish

Xionghuang Cervix, Skin, Mammary, Leukemia, Oesophagus, ST

Chishao General, LV

Woshu ?

Chenpi ?

Bingpian Cervix, Skin, Lymphoma, Larynx

Baizhu ST, Abdomen

Huangqi Melanoma, LV, LU, Cervix

Sanleng Nourish

Quanxie LU, ST, LV, Lymphoma, Mammary, Oesophagus

Zicao Chorioepithelioma, Leukemia, LU, LV, Cervix, ST,

Mammary

Shandougen Cervix

Ruxiang Sarcoma

Baishao ?

Dahuang Melanoma, Mammary, Abdomen, Oesophagus

Xuanshen Nourish

Moyao ?

Longkui LU, ST, LV, BL, Digestive tract

Tianhuafen Chorioepithelioma

Shijianchuan Oesophagus, ST, LU

Maidong Nourish

Xiangfu Colon, Rectum

Huangyaozi Oesophagus, Thyroid, ST, SI, LI, LU, Cervix

Fengfang ?

Mihoutaogen Nose & Throat, Oesophagus, LV, ST, Cervix

Huanglian LV, Oesophagus

Yujin LV, Pancreas, ST, Oesophagus, SI, LI,

Pengsha ?

Shexiang LV, Nose & Throat, Mammary, Skin, Abdomen

Chuanshanjia Mammary, Nose & Throat, SI, LI, Leukemia

Yejuhua Nose & Throat, Mouth, LV, Pancreas, Lymphoma,

Leukemia, Skin

Honghua ST, LV, Nose & Throat, Uterus, Ovary

Muli Mammary, Lymphoma, ST, LU

Baiying Cervix, LU, Vocal, Bone, ST, Oesophagus, LV, Larynx

Chuanlianzi Cervix

 

CHMIS does NOT cover most classical formulas and many other herbs

used in routine practice.

 

(b) The CHMIS details on any listed herb or formula omit many basic

facts of interest to clinicians.

 

I am trying to persuade Dr Xueliang Fang, the designer of CHMIS to

team up with TRADIMED [ http://www.tradimed.com/ ] in Korea.

TRADIMED is a vast database - a mixture of classical + modern

(pharmacological & molecular) data from:

 

11 Korean Medical Classics [see

http://www.tradimed.com/tradimedGuide/eAboutBookKorea.asp ]

 

6 Chinese Medical Classics [see

http://www.tradimed.com/tradimedGuide/eAboutBookChina.asp ],

 

Formulae, Disease classification,Constituents References from 114

sources, + a Constituents References Data Base from MAPA

(Medicinal & Aromatic Plants Abstracts) CAB Abstracts, AGRIS,

CARIS, AGRICOLA, PASCAL, FRANCIS, BIOSIS PREVIEWS,

CHEMICAL ABSTRACTS, CA REGISTRY + 32 more sources [see

http://www.tradimed.com/tradimedGuide/eAboutReferenceBook.asp ]

 

Unfortunately, TRADIMED requires an annual subscription, or " pay-per-

view " .

 

If CHMIS and TRADIMED agree to interface, clinicians who can obtain a

bona-fide Academic / Governmental email address will have access (via

CHMIS) to the most comprehensive dynamic suite of herbal databases

on the planet.

 

It remains to be seen if this transpires.

 

Best regards,

 

 

Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

 

Ireland.

Tel: (W): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

" Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " -

Chinese Proverb

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Tom, & All,

 

Tom wrote:

> Hi Phil, some days ago you sent us a link of Michigan University cancer

> herbs data. I tried to register as a member of the European Federation

> of Oriental Medicine, but was still identified as an industrial user.

> Meaning I would have to pay. One year license fee= 20000$. Gulp. Did

> you get access to the data? Tom.

 

I am registered on http://sw16.im.med.umich.edu/CHMIS-C/signin/ as a

veterinary researcher with Teagasc [National Agriculture & Food

Authority of Ireland] under category (a),

 

The enrolment page at http://sw16.im.med.umich.edu/CHMIS-C/enroll/

has two categories: (a) Academic / Governmental and (b) Industrial.

 

Registration is free for category (a) but very costly for category (b)

because this database has awesome power for those with commercial

interest in developing biomedical compounds. CHMIS has access to

molecular data and linkages to the relevant publications on Medline.

 

Listers interested to join for free should have an Academic /

Governmental connection, and use a bona-fide email address in

Academic / Governmental domain.

 

If you have not such an address, you may be able to the get one as an

associate staff member via an IT person, or senior Academic /

Governmental staff member.

 

However, CHMIS falls far short of being a database that CLINICIANS

need:

 

(a) It focuses only on herbs and SPECIAL (non-classical) formulas used

in CANCER, for example, in descending order of usage in cancer

formulas, the top 50 individual herbs listed in CHMIS are:

 

_Hb PinYin Name _Used in Cancer Type

Baihuasheshecao Digestive tract, LV, Lymphoma, Cervix, Larynx,

SI, LI, Anus, Chorioepithelioma

Xiakucao Uterus, Thyroid, Mammary, Lymphoma

Banzhilian Cervix, LV

Danggui Sarcoma

Jinyinhua Nose & Throat, Uterus, Cervix, Vagina

Haizao Sarcoma, Abdomen

Fuling Nourish

Danshen Abdomen, Melanoma, LV

Dangshen LU

Gancao ST, Tongue, Larynx, LV

Kunbu Thyroid, Oesophagus, Uterus, Lymphoma, LU, LV,

Mammary

Shengdi ?

Wugong ST, Skin, Abdomen, Cervix

Yiyiren ?

Taoren Oesophagus, ST, LU

Muxiang Nourish

Xionghuang Cervix, Skin, Mammary, Leukemia, Oesophagus, ST

Chishao General, LV

Woshu ?

Chenpi ?

Bingpian Cervix, Skin, Lymphoma, Larynx

Baizhu ST, Abdomen

Huangqi Melanoma, LV, LU, Cervix

Sanleng Nourish

Quanxie LU, ST, LV, Lymphoma, Mammary, Oesophagus

Zicao Chorioepithelioma, Leukemia, LU, LV, Cervix, ST,

Mammary

Shandougen Cervix

Ruxiang Sarcoma

Baishao ?

Dahuang Melanoma, Mammary, Abdomen, Oesophagus

Xuanshen Nourish

Moyao ?

Longkui LU, ST, LV, BL, Digestive tract

Tianhuafen Chorioepithelioma

Shijianchuan Oesophagus, ST, LU

Maidong Nourish

Xiangfu Colon, Rectum

Huangyaozi Oesophagus, Thyroid, ST, SI, LI, LU, Cervix

Fengfang ?

Mihoutaogen Nose & Throat, Oesophagus, LV, ST, Cervix

Huanglian LV, Oesophagus

Yujin LV, Pancreas, ST, Oesophagus, SI, LI,

Pengsha ?

Shexiang LV, Nose & Throat, Mammary, Skin, Abdomen

Chuanshanjia Mammary, Nose & Throat, SI, LI, Leukemia

Yejuhua Nose & Throat, Mouth, LV, Pancreas, Lymphoma,

Leukemia, Skin

Honghua ST, LV, Nose & Throat, Uterus, Ovary

Muli Mammary, Lymphoma, ST, LU

Baiying Cervix, LU, Vocal, Bone, ST, Oesophagus, LV, Larynx

Chuanlianzi Cervix

 

CHMIS does NOT cover most classical formulas and many other herbs

used in routine practice.

 

(b) The CHMIS details on any listed herb or formula omit many basic

facts of interest to clinicians.

 

I am trying to persuade Dr Xueliang Fang, the designer of CHMIS to

team up with TRADIMED [ http://www.tradimed.com/ ] in Korea.

TRADIMED is a vast database - a mixture of classical + modern

(pharmacological & molecular) data from:

 

11 Korean Medical Classics [see

http://www.tradimed.com/tradimedGuide/eAboutBookKorea.asp ]

 

6 Chinese Medical Classics [see

http://www.tradimed.com/tradimedGuide/eAboutBookChina.asp ],

 

Formulae, Disease classification,Constituents References from 114

sources, + a Constituents References Data Base from MAPA

(Medicinal & Aromatic Plants Abstracts) CAB Abstracts, AGRIS,

CARIS, AGRICOLA, PASCAL, FRANCIS, BIOSIS PREVIEWS,

CHEMICAL ABSTRACTS, CA REGISTRY + 32 more sources [see

http://www.tradimed.com/tradimedGuide/eAboutReferenceBook.asp ]

 

Unfortunately, TRADIMED requires an annual subscription, or " pay-per-

view " .

 

If CHMIS and TRADIMED agree to interface, clinicians who can obtain a

bona-fide Academic / Governmental email address will have access (via

CHMIS) to the most comprehensive dynamic suite of herbal databases

on the planet.

 

It remains to be seen if this transpires.

 

Best regards,

 

 

Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

 

Ireland.

Tel: (W): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

" Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " -

Chinese Proverb

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Phil

Please continue to post good info you come across from the Michigan site

Very much appreciated

 

 

 

 

Oakland, CA 94609

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi All, & Alon,

 

Alon wrote:

> Phil, Please continue to post good info you come across from the

> Michigan site Very much appreciated Alon

 

In my last mail re CHMIS, I said that they had a limited number of herbs

listed. That is not correct; they list 937 herbs and 527 formulas.

 

I have downloaded the data on the 937 herbs (it has only the names and

the cancer types for each) and will download the formulas tomorrow. I

will edit these files into Excel worksheets in the next week.

 

CHMIS has the copyright on these data, which I may not post in public.

If you are interested, email me offlist.

 

Unfortunately, there are no specific tips as to which herbs / formulas to

use in any given cancer, because the TCM Syndromes are not listed,

nor are any other clinical pointers, except the cancer type.

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

 

Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

 

Ireland.

Tel: (W): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

" Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " -

Chinese Proverb

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Phil

I am interested in cancer Tx

anything you can suggest to my private email

heiko

is much appreciated

Heiko Lade

M.H.Sc.(TCM)

Lecturer and clinic supervisor

Auckland College of Natural Medicine

Website: www.acnm.co.nz

 

 

 

-

Chinese Medicine

Cc: ; VBMA

Friday, October 21, 2005 4:05 PM

Re: Herbal Databases - CHMIS & TRADIMED

 

 

Hi All, & Alon,

 

Alon wrote:

> Phil, Please continue to post good info you come across from the

> Michigan site Very much appreciated Alon

 

In my last mail re CHMIS, I said that they had a limited number of herbs

listed. That is not correct; they list 937 herbs and 527 formulas.

 

I have downloaded the data on the 937 herbs (it has only the names and

the cancer types for each) and will download the formulas tomorrow. I

will edit these files into Excel worksheets in the next week.

 

CHMIS has the copyright on these data, which I may not post in public.

If you are interested, email me offlist.

 

Unfortunately, there are no specific tips as to which herbs / formulas to

use in any given cancer, because the TCM Syndromes are not listed,

nor are any other clinical pointers, except the cancer type.

 

 

 

Best regards,

Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

Ireland.

Tel: (W): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

" Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " -

Chinese Proverb

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi All, & Alon,

 

Alon wrote:

> Phil, Please continue to post good info you come across from the

> Michigan site Very much appreciated Alon

 

In my last mail re CHMIS, I said that they had a limited number of herbs

listed. That is not correct; they list 937 herbs and 527 formulas.

 

I have downloaded the data on the 937 herbs (it has only the names and

the cancer types for each) and will download the formulas tomorrow. I

will edit these files into Excel worksheets in the next week.

 

CHMIS has the copyright on these data, which I may not post in public.

If you are interested, email me offlist.

 

Unfortunately, there are no specific tips as to which herbs / formulas to

use in any given cancer, because the TCM Syndromes are not listed,

nor are any other clinical pointers, except the cancer type.

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

 

Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

 

Ireland.

Tel: (W): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

" Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " -

Chinese Proverb