Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Hi, I'm writing a paper on Stomach Yin Xu and how it may develop into other patterns of disharmony, and wondered what others thought about likely progressions. I'm not asking for anyone to write the paper for me of course, but I thought it might prove an interesting debate (as not many TCM books seem to cover disharmony progression specifically). Thanks, Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Dear Tom, If you look at Chinese language texts, there isn't too much 'debate'. It is all in a word; pathomechanisms/bing ji. Little has been published about pathomechanisms in English, leading to the very gap you are speaking about. And yet pathomechanisms are at the core of understanding at how disease patterns develop and progress. Paradigm Publications is putting out a series of pathomechanisms texts, beginning this week with " Pathomechanisms of the Heart " . On Oct 17, 2005, at 4:00 AM, tzkennedy wrote: > Hi, > > I'm writing a paper on Stomach Yin Xu and how it may develop into > other patterns of disharmony, and wondered what others thought about > likely progressions. I'm not asking for anyone to write the paper for > me of course, but I thought it might prove an interesting debate (as > not many TCM books seem to cover disharmony progression specifically). > > Thanks, > > Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Thanks Z'ev, sounds like a good series and I'll look out for them. Don't suppose they'll have the Stomach volume out in time for my paper though! Chinese Medicine , " Z'ev Rosenberg " <zrosenbe@s...> wrote: > > Dear Tom, > If you look at Chinese language texts, there isn't too much > 'debate'. It is all in a word; pathomechanisms/bing ji. Little has > been published about pathomechanisms in English, leading to the very > gap you are speaking about. And yet pathomechanisms are at the core > of understanding at how disease patterns develop and progress. > Paradigm Publications is putting out a series of pathomechanisms > texts, beginning this week with " Pathomechanisms of the Heart " . > > > On Oct 17, 2005, at 4:00 AM, tzkennedy wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm writing a paper on Stomach Yin Xu and how it may develop into > > other patterns of disharmony, and wondered what others thought about > > likely progressions. I'm not asking for anyone to write the paper for > > me of course, but I thought it might prove an interesting debate (as > > not many TCM books seem to cover disharmony progression specifically). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tom. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Hi Z'ev It's a relief to hear someone admit this lack of discussion of pathomechanism in English. I've been trying to say it to people for the last three years or so - and all I get is blank expresssions - other practitioners don't seem to have a clue what I'm talking about. I've just purchased Steven Clavey's " Fluid Physiology and Pathology in Traditional " (0-4430-7194-2) and hope to get some help with pathomechanism from this. May I ask what your view is of this text? Thanks and best regards, David Chinese Medicine , " " <zrosenbe@s...> wrote: > ... Little has > been published about pathomechanisms in English, leading to the very > gap you are speaking about. And yet pathomechanisms are at the core > of understanding at how disease patterns develop and progress. > Paradigm Publications is putting out a series of pathomechanisms > texts, beginning this week with " Pathomechanisms of the Heart " . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 David, This gets to the core of one of the central problems plaguing Chinese medical practice and education in the west. If a subject remains only in Chinese, and few Westerners read the language, and nothing on a subject is translated, then you have a gaping hole in the knowledge base. If no one has been exposed to this body of knowledge, how is anyone supposed to know it exists? Without knowledge of pathomechanisms, pattern differentiation is reduced to a one-dimensional snapshot of the present clinical picture, without the practitioner being able to determine how the present clinical picture developed. Clavey's book is excellent, and one of the best texts on pathomechanisms in English. However, the upcoming series on pathomechanisms of the five yin viscera from Paradigm Press should do a lot to close the gap. On Oct 20, 2005, at 11:40 PM, David Gordon wrote: > Hi Z'ev > > It's a relief to hear someone admit this lack of discussion of > pathomechanism in English. I've been trying to say it to people for > the > last three years or so - and all I get is blank expresssions - other > practitioners don't seem to have a clue what I'm talking about. > > I've just purchased Steven Clavey's " Fluid Physiology and Pathology in > Traditional " (0-4430-7194-2) and hope to get some > help > with pathomechanism from this. May I ask what your view is of this > text? > > Thanks and best regards, David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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