RE: TCM- Blind spots inTCM & WM modalities

[Guest guest]

ray, how fascinating & terrible that some of us are,

in blaming pts 4 their lack of cure....we have b/c the

unscrupulous individuals among allopaths who also

blame pts 4 lack of cure.... Yuk lynn

--- Chinese Medicine

<rford wrote:

> Phil wrote(in part)

>

> Therefore, we must be content to " find a small

slot " in the medical

> panorama and try to master THAT slot. Even that

takes much study and it

> leaves us aware of just how much we do NOT know

because we have not the tim

> e

> to study it!!

>

> We all have blind spots that only continuing study,

discussion and

> interaction with professionals in MANY disciplines

of medicine can

> illuminate partially and gradually!

>

> Phil I agree with you. The point I was making using

the rotator cuff exampl

> e

> is not that I have all the answers or maybe none at

all or maybe some that

> only work for me but on the advice on a mentor in

China decided a long time

> ago to focus on what I know works for me and ADMIT

when I don't know and

> THEN do one of two things.

>

> 1 Research, ask for help and TRY to find out

>

> 2 Refer,refer,refer

>

> Knowing ones limitations is important when helping

others.I used the exampl

> e

> I used because after talking to so many

practitioners and having so much

> acupuncture over the years with different people who

have found their " slot

> "

> many do not seem to realise that their " slot "

cannot help for " everything "

> but they go ahead anyway.In the example I used the

practitioner later told

> me that I had " failed " his treatment and that my

problem would surely retur

> n

> as only the symptom had been treated.I do not

believe this for a second, it

> is either supreme arrogance or just a defence

mechanism.I think this

> attitude has to change as it is endemic.I refer so

much that I have been

> accused by some fellow practitioners of not having

enough confidence to " go

> for it " but I really have worked out my " slot " and

along the way try to lear

> n

> more.I know what I can do well and more importantly

I know that I do not

> know so much more.If a patient REALLY wants me to

treat them then I explain

> that I have not got a clue but will do my best

although offer them advice o

> n

> where to go some still want to go ahead so we learn

together,mostly with

> mixed results but it does add to the body of

experience.

>

> I was astonished recently when I saw a report(cant

remember where)on " faile

> d

> back syndrome " which seemed to actually be a medical

term or condition,so

> the poor patients failed the " treatment " This is such

a cop out it is

> laughable if it didn't involve real people and their

pain I would

> laugh.Seems even when " we " fail we still want to

blame the patient.I just

> can't accept such an attitude.

> Ray ford

>

>

> Chinese Medicine

>

Chinese Medicine

On Behalf Of Phil

> Rogers

> Tuesday, 23 August 2005 8:48 AM

> Chinese Medicine

> Blind spots in single TCM & WM

modalities

>

> Hi Ray & All,

>

> Ray Ford wrote:

> > ... With great respect to ANY five element

practitioners I think that

> > this is a blind spot in 5 elements.I was recently

treated by a

> > renowned master of five elements ...[with poor

results]

>

> Ray, I agree 100% but go beyond that. With great

respect to ANY

> practitioners of ANY medical or (veterinary!)

modality, I think that ALL

> single modalities have HUGE blind spots!

>

> The study of medicine is a life-long task and few,

if any humans can master

> all modalities. Ray's example of HT09 versus

releasing the local block for

> a

> rotator cuff injury is a good one. But there are

many others.

>

> For example, how successful would a top herbalist

(or top western specialis

> t

> in internal medicine) be in treating Keshan Disease

(potentially fatal

> cardiomyopathy) in children before Chinese

researchers discovered that the

> basic cause was due to severe endemic deficiency of

selenium? Today,

> provision of sodium selenite tablets via the schools

has (I understand)

> almost wiped out that killer disease in Keshan.

>

> And then I checked Medline to find that I had a

blind spot on Keshan Diseas

> e

> because: (a) Med Science still cannot define minimum

human requirements for

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[Guest guest]

> 1 Research, ask for help and TRY to find out

>

> 2 Refer,refer,refer

>

> Knowing ones limitations is important when helping

others.<

 

a small note;

I just found out that a local orthopaedic diagnostician (Alopathic) has me on

his referal list and tells his patient that I am " the best Dr of TCM /Ac in the

region "

He bases this on the fact that he sent me three patients and I helped two but

told the third that he needed to see someone else bcause I did not think I would

be able to help him.

 

In other words He thinks i'm the " best " because i refer.

Doc

 

 

I am only one; but still I am one.

I cannot do everything, but still I can do something;

I will not refuse to do the something I can do.

- Helen Keller