Needling GB21: Seated vs lying down?

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Hi Alon & All,

 

Alon Marcus wrote:

> By the way, in my experience the area of GB21 is very likely to cause a

> vasovagal reaction and one that may take several minuets to develop. It

> is therefore not advisable to needle it in a seated patient who is not

> closely monitored. Alon

 

Alon, I must have the " Luck of the Irish " because I often needle GB21

without problems (needle-shock / vasovagal reaction) in seated patients.

 

Risk of needle-shock is much less in patients treated prone or supine,

and if needle manipulation is minimal or gentle. However, as in treating

shoulder problems with points front and back + distant points like ST38

or GB34, I find it more convenient to treat patients in the sitting position,

especially if I know that they have not had fainting reactions to AP

before.

 

Any comments from other Listers?

 

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I find it more convenient to treat patients in the sitting position,

especially if I know that they have not had fainting reactions to AP

before.

>>>>>>>

Phil I do as well, however i now seen over 10 vasovagals may be because i often

use strong needle techniques and deep insertion

 

 

 

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